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What's the Rush?
ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

Posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Edited on 07/02/2007 4:50:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

That's the question Bobby Schindler asked in the case involving Jesse Ramirez, the Arizona man whose case paralleled that of Schindler's sister, Terri Schiavo, until Ramirez woke up. The Arizona Republic reports:

...Bobby Schindler of the Florida-based Terri Schindler Shiavo Foundation placed the blame on a medical establishment quick to dismiss patients with brain injuries.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

"What is the rush?" he asked. "This is not the first time we've heard of cases like this where doctors want to write off the chance of recovery, and the family, when they're told this, will make a decision to end a person's life.

"In the case of Mr. Ramirez, he'd be dead now."

Why is Jesse alive? His family sought legal intervention with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund:
His siblings and parents refused to give him up for dead, and today, Jesse Ramirez is alive and conscious.

Two weeks ago, he was the center of a family battling over of whether he should live or die.

Now, he can hug and kiss, nod his head, answer yes and no questions, give a thumbs-up sign and sit in a chair.

Related:

A Miracle for Jesse Ramirez and His Family

Jesse Ramirez Conscious, Moved To Rehab Facility

Accident victim awakens


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And the spill seeps still...

But what he means is that Congress is wasting their time doing the oversight inherent to that body -- because, as far as Snow is concerned, Congress represents the White House and not the American people -- and that they should spend more time helping Bush in his failed national agenda or, like their GOP predecessors, focusing on issues like Terri Schiavo or flag burning.

Snow Perfectly Conveys White House's Total Arrogance

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501 posted on 07/27/2007 3:34:54 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> they got their morality mixed up in, despite actually understanding very little.

This little leftist princess dares to preach morality? Her only ethic is socialism. She was so obnoxious that one of her subjects tried to punch her camera.

She's just as obnoxious and condescending in print.

502 posted on 07/27/2007 3:52:10 AM PDT by T'wit (Before you rejoice at seeing light at the end of the tunnel, remember -- it may be New Jersey.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> More "art". They love the stuff.

Art requires no discipline, no talent, no morals, no reference to the truth and no brains whatsoever. Naturally that's where the Left flocks. Like, wow!, they don't have to work and what's really neat is, sometimes people throw change in their guitar case.

Art is all "Let's Pretend." But then, socialism itself is "Let's Pretend."

503 posted on 07/27/2007 4:00:38 AM PDT by T'wit (Before you rejoice at seeing light at the end of the tunnel, remember -- it may be New Jersey.)
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To: T'wit

Symbolism, they love symbolism. Drive a Prius where everyone can see, park it in the evening and use the SUV for serious driving. Their world evolves around symbols, handy replacements for facts.


504 posted on 07/27/2007 4:03:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on the Pope...

ROME, July 26, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Pope Benedict XVI's question and answer session with Italian clergy Tuesday has been reported on by the world's media, noting mostly his references to evolution and care for the planet. Most media have failed, however, to note that in his remarks on the necessity of care for the earth, the Pope explicitly noted the necessity of "absolute respect" for human life.

"We can all see today that man could destroy the foundation of his existence, the earth," he said. "Therefore we can no longer just simply do whatever we want with this earth which has been entrusted to us." We must, he said, "respect the inner laws of creation, of the earth, to learn these laws and obey these laws if we are to survive."

Media Misses the Point: Pope Says Have Concern for the Planet Yes, but a Greater Concern for Life

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505 posted on 07/27/2007 4:07:49 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
The Puffington Host, far from being concerned about the fate of the Republican Party, will not rest easy until there isn't a Republican left alive.

For the record, a much younger Arianna Stassinopoulos had a conservative bent and wrote powerfully against the excesses of feminism. That was before she married Michael Huffington and got used to having heaps of money and status. Look at her now -- divorced, rich and mean as a serpent.

506 posted on 07/27/2007 4:11:41 AM PDT by T'wit (Before you rejoice at seeing light at the end of the tunnel, remember -- it may be New Jersey.)
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To: All; wagglebee
RU-486 or RU-against it? More horror oozing from China in a thread by wagglebee.

WASHINGTON, D.C., July 26, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - For weeks the US Food and Drug Administration has been warning the American public about tainted Chinese imports of contaminated pet food, poisonous toothpaste, and an outbreak of botulism. However the federal agency has failed thus far to issue warnings over the possible contamination of RU-486, a chemical abortion pill made exclusively in China, which has led to at least 6 documented deaths in North America and hundreds of severe adverse effects in women.

As the Chinese scandals began to unfold, pro-life Congressman Chris Smith (R-NJ) and co-chairman of the Bipartisan Pro-life Caucus called on the FDA to investigate Danco, a company established in the Cayman Islands solely for the purpose of selling its only product, RU-486, in the United States. Smith wanted to ascertain its relationship with the Shanghai based manufacturing company, Hua Lin Pharmaceuticals.

Massive Chinese Recalls, but FDA Silent Over RU-486 Chinese Manufacturers

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507 posted on 07/27/2007 4:13:31 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Thread from wagglebee...

New York, NY (LifeNews.com) -- Amnesty International upset millions of pro-life supporters months ago when it decided to take a pro-abortion position after decades of neutrality. Any decision on abortion was supposed to come at an AI leadership conference in August in Mexico City -- but with the meeting on the horizon, a change of heart isn't expected.

The biennial meeting of the world's foremost human rights group begins August 11 but one of its leaders says its unlikely AI will backtrack on the abortion decision.

Amnesty International Unlikely to Drop Newfound Pro-Abortion Position

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508 posted on 07/27/2007 4:18:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Sounds like new developments in the Katrina euthanasia case. Thread by wagglebee.

Baton Rouge, LA (LifeNews.com) -- Just one day after a grand jury decided not to indict Dr. Anna Pou on charges that she allegedly euthanized patients in the dreadful aftermath following Hurricane Katrina, the state's attorney general will not drop the case. Attorney General Charles Foti has asked a state judge to release previously sealed documents.

Foti wants the judge to release documents that has been used in the investigation of the deaths at Memorial Medical Center. The documents were sealed when Foti gave Judge Calvin Johnson the search warrants, subpoena requests and other records in January 2006.

Louisiana Attorney General Won't Drop Hurricane Katrina Euthanasia Case

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509 posted on 07/27/2007 4:21:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Here's the real Tony Snow -- and this is beautiful. I got it via e-mail but believe it is a recent interview in Christianity Today.

Cancer's Unexpected Blessings

When you enter the Valley of the Shadow of Death, things change.

Tony Snow

Commentator and broadcaster Tony Snow announced that he had colon cancer in 2005. Following surgery and chemo-therapy, Snow joined the Bush administration in April 2006 as press secretary. Unfortunately, on March 23 Snow, 51, a husband and father of three, announced that the cancer had recurred, with tumors found in his abdomen—leading to surgery in April, followed by more chemotherapy. Snow went back to work in the White House Briefing Room on May 30. CT asked Snow what spiritual lessons he has been learning through the ordeal.

Blessings arrive in unexpected packages—in my case, cancer.

Those of us with potentially fatal diseases—and there are millions in America today—find ourselves in the odd position of coping with our mortality while trying to fathom God's will. Although it would be the height of presumption to declare with confidence What It All Means, Scripture provides powerful hints and consolations.

The first is that we shouldn't spend too much time trying to answer the why questions: Why me? Why must people suffer? Why can't someone else get sick? We can't answer such things, and the questions themselves often are designed more to express our anguish than to solicit an answer.

I don't know why I have cancer, and I don't much care. It is what it is—a plain and indisputable fact. Yet even while staring into a mirror darkly, great and stunning truths begin to take shape. Our maladies define a central feature of our existence: We are fallen. We are imperfect. Our bodies give out.

But despite this—because of it—God offers the possibility of salvation and grace. We don't know how the narrative of our lives will end, but we get to choose how to use the interval between now and the moment we meet our Creator face-to-face.

Second, we need to get past the anxiety. The mere thought of dying can send adrenaline flooding through your system. A dizzy, unfocused panic seizes you. Your heart thumps; your head swims. You think of nothingness and swoon. You fear partings; you worry about the impact on family and friends. You fidget and get nowhere.

To regain footing, remember that we were born not into death, but into life—and that the journey continues after we have finished our days on this earth. We accept this on faith, but that faith is nourished by a conviction that stirs even within many nonbelieving hearts—an intuition that the gift of life, once given, cannot be taken away. Those who have been stricken enjoy the special privilege of being able to fight with their might, main, and faith to live—fully, richly, exuberantly—no matter how their days may be numbered.

Third, we can open our eyes and hearts. God relishes surprise. We want lives of simple, predictable ease—smooth, even trails as far as the eye can see—but God likes to go off-road. He provokes us with twists and turns. He places us in predicaments that seem to defy our endurance and comprehension—and yet don't. By his love and grace, we persevere. The challenges that make our hearts leap and stomachs churn invariably strengthen our faith and grant measures of wisdom and joy we would not experience otherwise.

'You Have Been Called'

Picture yourself in a hospital bed. The fog of anesthesia has begun to wear away. A doctor stands at your feet; a loved one holds your hand at the side. "It's cancer," the healer announces.

The natural reaction is to turn to God and ask him to serve as a cosmic Santa. "Dear God, make it all go away. Make everything simpler." But another voice whispers: "You have been called." Your quandary has drawn you closer to God, closer to those you love, closer to the issues that matter—and has dragged into insignificance the banal concerns that occupy our "normal time."

There's another kind of response, although usually short-lived—an inexplicable shudder of excitement, as if a clarifying moment of calamity has swept away everything trivial and tinny, and placed before us the challenge of important questions.

The moment you enter the Valley of the Shadow of Death, things change. You discover that Christianity is not something doughy, passive, pious, and soft. Faith may be the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. But it also draws you into a world shorn of fearful caution. The life of belief teems with thrills, boldness, danger, shocks, reversals, triumphs, and epiphanies. Think of Paul, traipsing though the known world and contemplating trips to what must have seemed the antipodes (Spain), shaking the dust from his sandals, worrying not about the morrow, but only about the moment.

There's nothing wilder than a life of humble virtue—for it is through selflessness and service that God wrings from our bodies and spirits the most we ever could give, the most we ever could offer, and the most we ever could do.

Finally, we can let love change everything. When Jesus was faced with the prospect of crucifixion, he grieved not for himself, but for us. He cried for Jerusalem before entering the holy city. From the Cross, he took on the cumulative burden of human sin and weakness, and begged for forgiveness on our behalf.

We get repeated chances to learn that life is not about us—that we acquire purpose and satisfaction by sharing in God's love for others. Sickness gets us partway there. It reminds us of our limitations and dependence. But it also gives us a chance to serve the healthy. A minister friend of mine observes that people suffering grave afflictions often acquire the faith of two people, while loved ones accept the burden of two people's worries and fears.

Learning How to Live

Most of us have watched friends as they drifted toward God's arms not with resignation, but with peace and hope. In so doing, they have taught us not how to die, but how to live. They have emulated Christ by transmitting the power and authority of love.

I sat by my best friend's bedside a few years ago as a wasting cancer took him away. He kept at his table a worn Bible and a 1928 edition of the Book of Common Prayer. A shattering grief disabled his family, many of his old friends, and at least one priest. Here was a humble and very good guy, someone who apologized when he winced with pain because he thought it made his guest uncomfortable. He retained his equanimity and good humor literally until his last conscious moment. "I'm going to try to beat [this cancer]," he told me several months before he died. "But if I don't, I'll see you on the other side."

His gift was to remind everyone around him that even though God doesn't promise us tomorrow, he does promise us eternity—filled with life and love we cannot comprehend—and that one can in the throes of sickness point the rest of us toward timeless truths that will help us weather future storms.

Through such trials, God bids us to choose: Do we believe, or do we not? Will we be bold enough to love, daring enough to serve, humble enough to submit, and strong enough to acknowledge our limitations? Can we surrender our concern in things that don't matter so that we might devote our remaining days to things that do?

When our faith flags, he throws reminders in our way. Think of the prayer warriors in our midst. They change things, and those of us who have been on the receiving end of their petitions and intercessions know it.

It is hard to describe, but there are times when suddenly the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, and you feel a surge of the Spirit. Somehow you just know: Others have chosen, when talking to the Author of all creation, to lift us up—to speak of us!

This is love of a very special order. But so is the ability to sit back and appreciate the wonder of every created thing. The mere thought of death somehow makes every blessing vivid, every happiness more luminous and intense. We may not know how our contest with sickness will end, but we have felt the ineluctable touch of God.

What is man that Thou art mindful of him? We don't know much, but we know this: No matter where we are, no matter what we do, no matter how bleak or frightening our prospects, each and every one of us, each and every day, lies in the same safe and impregnable place—in the hollow of God's hand.

510 posted on 07/27/2007 4:30:00 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: T'wit; 8mmMauser

Is it just me or do you get the impression everytime he speaks that Tony Snow just can’t wait to go back to private life.


511 posted on 07/27/2007 4:45:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Louisiana Attorney General Won't Drop Hurricane Katrina Euthanasia Case

The sulphurous fumes got thick in the previous thread. I could only marvel at the raging of the Visitors as they twisted the truth and attacked the normal people.

It seems clear that once a person accepts the premises of euthanasia and "right to die," the effects are instantly toxic to the soul.

512 posted on 07/27/2007 4:46:52 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: T'wit; floriduh voter
FV, ping to Tony Snow on death and dying and to Luke 6:21, T'wit's new tagline. (And the following verse, too!)

21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for you shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for you shall laugh.

22 Blessed shall you be when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you and shall reproach you and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

513 posted on 07/27/2007 4:48:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

I really don’t know. I do know that he took the job in good faith and with full understanding that he would be speaking into the gale. Whatever his path, he has my best wishes.


514 posted on 07/27/2007 4:50:33 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: wagglebee

Tony Snow is a very decent guy. It must be tough on him to not be able to express all he would wish.


515 posted on 07/27/2007 4:52:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit; wagglebee

At least one new troll is floating around. It is a matter of time before said troll appears on more of our threads.


516 posted on 07/27/2007 4:55:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit; 8mmMauser
It seems clear that once a person accepts the premises of euthanasia and "right to die," the effects are instantly toxic to the soul.

It was nothing compared to the IVF thread I posted the other day when someone called ME a eugenicist.

517 posted on 07/27/2007 4:58:27 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit
At least one new troll is floating around. It is a matter of time before said troll appears on more of our threads.

You could always invite said troll. . .

518 posted on 07/27/2007 4:59:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser
Those who wanted Terri to die this horrible death and even attack those who so much as uttered a word in her defense merely reveal themselves as sadists.
519 posted on 07/27/2007 5:15:18 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: All; wagglebee
Ping to a thread by wagglebee on the HLI look at the death cultists as demonic. I give powerful credibility to HLI, having volunteered and worked there a decade and half ago and was warmly welcomed by staff, as was our handicapped son. I saw then they were battling a demonic force and it shaped my own faith.

God bless them all for the truth they promote!

FRONT ROYAL, VA, July 27, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer, president of Human Life International, the world's largest pro-life organization, has stated that abortion is the same bloodthirsty and ritual sacrifice of babies to a demonic god that occurred throughout history and across cultures.

Euteneuer speaks from years of experience as a pro-life activist and an exorcist. According to the HLI website, he has participated in many prayer vigils, pilgrimages, and picketing events since his early priesthood. As HLI President, an organization that networks pro-life activists in 80 countries across the globe, he has visited more than fifty countries and traveled over 700,000 miles. In addition, he has been featured by countless national and international media and received several notable awards.

Abortion is a "Perfect demonic system" says Human Life International President

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520 posted on 07/27/2007 3:15:04 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
More Planned Parenthood news in a thread by wagglebee...

Aurora, IL (LifeNews.com) -- As more reports surface on the new abortion center Planned Parenthood is building Aurora, Illinois, pro-life advocates are concerned about how it was built with so little advanced notice. The 22,000-foot building is one of the largest abortion centers in the nation but Planned Parenthood was able to build it under the radar.

As LifeNews.com reported Tuesday, Planned Parenthood/Chicago Area will open the abortion business in the 200 block of North Oakhurst Drive, located in the DuPage County section of Aurora.

Illinois Planned Parenthood Built New Aurora Abortion Business Secretly

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521 posted on 07/27/2007 3:24:27 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Arlen Spector, a guy supposed to be on our side, is sort of like a RINO...

Remember Arlen Spector from past deeds? He was the originator of the "Magic Bullet" of the JFK assassination and was the defender of murderer/hippie environmentalist Ira Einhorn and allowed him to escape. Now he represents "our side" on the Judiciary.

ProLifeBlogs posted this from Politico.

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Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) plans to review the Senate testimony of U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel A. Alito to determine if their reversal of several long-standing opinions conflicts with promises they made to senators to win confirmation....

The idea for a review came to Specter when he said he ran into Justice Stephen G. Breyer at the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado.

Breyer, an appointee of President Bill Clinton, drew attention last month for suggesting that Roberts and the conservative majority were flouting stare decisis, the legal doctrine that, for the sake of stability, courts should generally leave past decisions undisturbed....

"I only noticed it in a couple of cases," Specter said of the court overturning or undermining precedents. But Breyer, in their Aspen conversation, said "there were eight."

The liberal concern for stare decisis is code for wanting Roe v. Wade left alone, which is pathetic. They know the ruling can't stand on its own.

Breyer undermining Roberts

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522 posted on 07/28/2007 3:09:16 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Judge...

Dear Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee:

We write on behalf of our more than 70 member organizations, representing some 2 million members, friends, and supporters nationwide who have diverse interests yet all share a commitment to: (1) a fair Senate process for judicial nominees, and (2) Senate confirmation of judges and Justices of outstanding qualifications who respect democracy and self-government and demonstrate judicial restraint and faithfulness to the Constitution.

Judge Leslie Southwick, President Bush's nominee to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, is such a judge of outstanding personal and professional qualifications. Judge Southwick is an American patriot who has voluntarily served our nation honorably in Iraq. He is by all accounts an outstanding legal mind and is highly respected in the profession, having been rated unanimously "well-qualified" by the American Bar Association judicial evaluations committee. He has served with distinction on the Mississippi bench for 11 years.

Judge Southwick appeared poised in May to be approved by the Judiciary Committee and sent to the Senate floor for a vote, when liberal extremist groups decided to strongarm some of you into killing his nomination in the committee. This tactic cannot be tolerated. It is based on entirely trumped up charges relating to two opinions out of a body of more than 7000 judicial opinions with which he is associated.

JCN Demands Justice for Judicial Nominees Again

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523 posted on 07/28/2007 3:36:41 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; don-o; wagglebee
More Planned Parenthood stuff in a thread by don-o.

Claiming that Planned Parenthood negligently misdiagnosed her cervical cancer for more than a year, former Planned Parenthood patient Rebecca Glover has filed a medical malpractice suit seeking at least $2 million in damages.

Glover’s lawsuit alleges that, after performing a Pap smear, Planned Parenthood of San Diego and Riverside Counties failed to tell her the result: that the test revealed she had cervical cancer.

Malpractice, cover-up Planned Parenthood of San Diego and Riverside Counties

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524 posted on 07/28/2007 4:38:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
A sobering perspective indeed. See my last comment in #512. That was like an epiphany -- nothing that I'd been reflecting about, but rather, the kind of insight that is handed down to an open mind. And once you see it, -- but only then, -- it has always been so...

In Western culture, we see it as a "right" to life. But no matter what our culture or religion, a reverence for life is the basis for all moral principle. Truly, we are made in the image of God. To reject our place as His creature is to blaspheme. If the sanctity of life is breached in our mind and faith, the soul at once sickens.

525 posted on 07/28/2007 5:22:28 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: T'wit; wagglebee; amdgmary; floriduh voter; All

Fr. Euteneuer of HLI is at this moment speaking on EWTN and is talking about Terri Schiavo and her last Mass.


526 posted on 07/28/2007 5:26:49 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

Interesting coincidence...


527 posted on 07/28/2007 5:28:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
One more black mark against George W. Bush -- rushing to rescue Arlen Specter in the primaries. Specter is arguably the most evil man in the Senate. He and "liberal Republicans" like him have been crucifying America for generations.

I wonder if his ideological compatriot Rudy G. is in on this.

528 posted on 07/28/2007 5:36:33 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: T'wit

The coincidence goes deeper As you were typing this, and as wife and I were discussing memories of our times with HLI, she was inspired to turn on the tv. Just at that moment, there was Fr. Euteneuer in sermon talking about the nature of euthanasia and then about Terri. On the wall behind him is an exact duplicate image of The Divine Mercy we keep, with the motto, “Jesus I trust in You”, (Thee).


529 posted on 07/28/2007 5:40:42 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> The coincidence goes deeper

The web is seamless!

Have to take my leave today, at least until late evening. In the meantime, you may fire at will :-)

530 posted on 07/28/2007 5:44:23 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: T'wit

Stumbling today... Just got the spelling of Arlan Specter confused with that of Phillip Spector, the killer (alleged). Maybe I see both as spectres.


531 posted on 07/28/2007 5:48:37 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Arlan=Arlen. This guy is confusing me..... gotta get back to EWTN.


532 posted on 07/28/2007 5:49:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Rush Limbaugh on Specter and on Terri...

Why is it that when a liberal like Specter makes a direct threat against the court, which is what this is, because of the justices' actual rulings, not his potential rulings, here is Specter thinking he doesn't like some of these rulings, some of these precedents that have been overturned, so he is going to examine their testimony. Why is there no hue and cry about these threats against the independent judiciary? But let the Schiavo case come up and the left goes absolutely bonkers. Let any criticism of a liberal jurist come up, the left goes bonkers, "You're intimidating the judiciary. You can't do that." Then they start talking about the threats that might be made against judges and they blame it all -- but the liberals can do this, I don't care if they're Republican liberals or Democrat liberals, they can run around and try to intimidate the judiciary all they want. The reason they do is because the judiciary has been set up by the left, it's been infiltrated to be independent of election results. I think these people up on Capitol Hill are totally out of control. Congress is now threatening to censure the president, which is unconstitutional. They are trying to intimidate Alito and Roberts here. It's interfering with the president's unqualified power to fire his own employees like US attorneys. There was no crime, and yet they are issuing contempt citations today. They have done it.

Censure the Out of Control Congress

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533 posted on 07/29/2007 3:54:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on successes with ADULT stem cells. It tells a lot about the left when adult stem cell research pays off again and again, yet the left focuses only on stem cells from killed fetuses, a direction showing very little if any promise...

A cardiologist and cardiothoracic surgeon is saying patients with various forms of heart damage are being effectively treated with their own stem cells. And a doctor from South America says many of his diabetic patients treated with adult stem cells no longer need to take insulin.

To date, there have been 1,800 heart disease patients in registered clinical trials around the world who have been treated with an injection of adult stem cells. One of the doctors who is performing such procedures is Dr. Amit Patel with the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. At a recent forum in Washington, DC, he discussed the promise of adult stem-cell research.

Doctors advocate treating heart disease, diabetes with adult stem cells

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534 posted on 07/29/2007 4:00:20 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
We could watch the law of unintended consequences unfold as the sinister side of abortions in India grows.

The wife of a millionaire industrialist has shocked Indian high society by accusing her husband of forcing her to abort two baby girls after taking illegal tests to determine their gender.

Pooja Salotia even accused her husband, Chirag, of trying to force her to have sex with his two brothers to conceive a male heir for the family machinery business in the state of Gujarat. Police arrested her husband, his two brothers and seven other relatives after Mrs Salotia, 32, filed an official complaint in the city of Ahmedabad on Saturday.

Her allegations against 18 people have sent shockwaves across India by breaking a strict code of silence on such matters and exposing the extent of female foeticide among the urban middle and upper classes.

Millionaire’s wife ‘forced to abort baby girls’

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535 posted on 07/29/2007 4:05:39 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; monomaniac; narses
Rudy and abortions thread by monomaniac. Thanks, narses.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Pro-abortion Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani continues to avoid questions about how his stance on abortion turns off pro-life GOP voters he needs to capture the party's presidential nod. Instead, he is continuing to move the issue to judges, where he pledges to appoint those who won't legislate from the bench.

In California on Tuesday, Giuliani answered a reporter's question about abortion with an answer discussing judges.

Rudy Giuliani Continues Avoiding Abortion With Focus on Conservative Judges

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536 posted on 07/29/2007 4:10:43 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee; narses
Branding?? This thread by wagglebee has some "lively" discussion, namely attacks on our friends...

First it was tattoos; a pimp put his name on the shoulder of his “girls” as indication that they “belonged” to him. Now, unbelievably, those guys are branding their “babes.” It’s happening not in a foreign underdeveloped country but right here in America. Earlier this month, a 40-year-old man, Shawn Bailey, and a 22-year-old woman were arrested in Phoenix for actively pimping girls aged 14-17.

Branding Their Babes (Prostitution)

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537 posted on 07/29/2007 4:35:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Pat Boone...

HIV? No, that's very serious and alarmingly widespread, but it pales in contrast to the sickness I'm talking about here. Polio? No, the Salk vaccine seems to have brought that scourge under control. Cancer? No, although hundreds of thousands of Americans are afflicted with this dread malady – and too many die – it's not the sickness I'm not talking about.

I'm referring to a sickness that is taking the lives of some million and a half young Americans every year, and has claimed an estimated 40 million lives since 1973. I'm talking about abortion.

Pat Boone: 30 seconds to save a life (Abortion)

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538 posted on 07/29/2007 4:41:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Speechless...

Cincinnati, OH (LifeNews.com) -- An Ohio teenager and his friend who are accused of attacking his pregnant girlfriend and killing her unborn child have been apprehended by police. Alfonso Price, a 15 year-old, allegedly attacked Kerria Anderson, 18, because she refused to have an abortion of her baby who Price fathered.

Ohio Teens Who Killed Girl's Unborn Child in Attack Caught by Police

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539 posted on 07/29/2007 4:50:25 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
The bigger government gets, the more corrupt it gets. It is a law of nature.

It is delicious that adherents of materialist philosophy -- all the while boasting of their rational, scientific thinking -- are ineluctably drawn to all-powerful government. This is their god. They worship the most unscientific, delusional, wacky, expensive and destructive force in life. A redneck yokel has more sense.

540 posted on 07/29/2007 4:58:31 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Ohio Teens Who Killed Girl's Unborn Child in Attack Caught by Police

Just be careful they don't get a civic award for performing the Feminist Sacrament.

Michael Schiavo, George Felos and George Greer got widespread praise and several professional awards for murdering Terri.

541 posted on 07/29/2007 6:01:46 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: 8mmMauser

Once upon a time we distinguished between libertarians (fierce defenders of life, liberty and property) and libertines (do as you please, no rules, no authority). Nowadays you can’t guess who is what. For my two cents, a full and sufficient statement of political belief for a libertarian is (or should be), “Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” (2 Cor. 3:17 KJV) The goodness of our liberty derives from, and cannot be detached from, the goodness of Him who created us and made us free. Any other kind of liberty is evil.


542 posted on 07/29/2007 6:23:06 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: 8mmMauser
You know student exchange programs? Where our students go study in some foreign country and their students have to come and study in our godawful public schools? I think we should do that with legislative bodies. Politician Exchange programs. Wth, Corrupt Politicians Exchange programs. The U.S. Congress, in particular. I think all 535 members of Congress should spend at least a year, preferably two, in more progressive countries like Bolivia, Nepal, North Korea, the Sudan and the Trobriand Islands. Their legislators would come to Washington, D.C. to learn how not to govern. Our guys would learn the right way to do things in all the bright spots around the world. They could study municipal sewage systems, socialized medicine and selecting virgins for the emperor.

Put me down for another helpful suggestion.

I also think we could get busy trading federal judges with, oh, Colombia, South America and Saudi Arabia.

543 posted on 07/29/2007 6:36:40 AM PDT by T'wit (Beati qui nunc esuritis quia saturabimini; beati qui nunc fletis quia ridebitis)
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To: 8mmMauser
"You're intimidating the judiciary. You can't do that." Then they start talking about the threats that might be made against judges and they blame it all -- but the liberals can do this, I don't care if they're Republican liberals or Democrat liberals, they can run around and try to intimidate the judiciary all they want. The reason they do is because the judiciary has been set up by the left, it's been infiltrated to be independent of election results. I think these people up on Capitol Hill are totally out of control.

bttt!

544 posted on 07/29/2007 8:06:33 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: 8mmMauser
A propos de rien, I've just found a window to the German soul. Possibly also a source of spiffy, unusual taglines. What you do is ask for an Internet translation of German lyric poetry. For instances Here

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Broken ring flax in a cool reason goes there a mill wheel, my dearest one disappeared, which gewohnet there. She promised...

In Danzig dark Giebel, high windows, towers deeply from nebulas long, bleach statues such as ghosts sound lot at the doors...

Ms stood at the sea and sighed long and fears for, it agitated it the so sehre sunset. My Ms! its you lively...

Warning such books lets print you! Expensive friend, you is lost! If you want to have money and honour, you must duck yourself duly.

A hedgehog sat on a stone
and blew on a prick its.
Schalmeiala, schalmeialü!
There its finedear Agel came
and did to it schnigel schnagel
to its Melodein.
Schnigula schnagula
schnaguleia lü!

Sea gull song the sea gulls all look, as if they were called Emma.

Bttt

545 posted on 07/30/2007 3:23:46 AM PDT by T'wit (The schlesischen webers in düstern the eye a tear you do not sit at the loom and the fletschen teeth)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Thread from wagglebee on the stance of the Republican party and abortion...

Six months before the Iowa presidential caucuses, anti-abortion activists in the Republican Party are trying to adjust to a strikingly different political landscape. For the first time in more than a generation, they face, in former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani of New York, a front-runner for the nomination who supports abortion rights.

"Pro-life" support is divided among several other candidates, including former Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, a relatively recent convert to the cause, and former Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee. And some strategists and outside analysts are voicing a theory that was once unthinkable in the Republican Party: That a convergence of forces - such as the early primaries in moderate states like California - may have diminished the influence of the anti-abortion movement on the Republican nominating process.

Anti-abortion leaders are increasingly moving to defend the seminal victory they first won in 1980 - the definition of the Republican Party as the "pro-life party" in its platform and its presidential nominees. Key leaders are signing on with the anti-abortion candidates they see as best able to go the distance. And some of those leaders are warning, bluntly, that the abortion issue is fundamental - not something to be finessed

Republican anti-abortion activists face possibility of setback

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546 posted on 07/30/2007 3:28:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

Profound stuff there!


547 posted on 07/30/2007 3:31:15 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Stem cells again...

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CNSNews.com) - Doctors and patients who have been involved in medical treatments derived from "adult" stem cells say they back federal legislation to promote such research -- because "this stuff works."

They made the comments in support of the Patients First Act of 2007 at a news conference in Washington, D.C. late last week.

The head of an organization that supports research using stem cells from all sources -- including human embryos -- told Cybercast News Service that the bill "isn't worth the paper it's written on."

Adult Stem Cell Research Puts Patients First, Proponents Say

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548 posted on 07/30/2007 3:34:47 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Who'd have guessed that all sea gulls were named Emma?
549 posted on 07/30/2007 3:37:26 AM PDT by T'wit (The schlesischen webers in düstern the eye a tear you do not sit at the loom and the fletschen teeth)
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To: All; wagglebee
Killing is a NEED. What the......

Thread from wagglebee.

AURORA -- A lack of women's health services in the region, particularly abortion providers, prompted a full-service Planned Parenthood medical office on Aurora's far northeast side.

Scheduled to open the middle of September, the medical complex will offer reproductive and women's health-care services, with an estimated 10 percent of that coming from abortions.

(Abortion) Clinic owner says it's filling a need

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550 posted on 07/30/2007 3:38:05 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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