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U.S. Marine Vet Faces Hearing on Discharge Status for Wearing Uniform at Protest
Fox News ^ | May 31, 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/31/2007 7:36:14 AM PDT by Lady J USA 1981

U.S. Marine Vet Faces Hearing on Discharge Status for Wearing Uniform at Protest

Thursday, May 31, 2007

KANSAS CITY, Missouri — A U.S. veteran who served in the Iraq war could lose his honorable discharge status after being photographed wearing fatigues at an anti-war protest.

Marine Cpl. Adam Kokesh and other veterans marked the fourth anniversary of the war in Iraq in April by wearing their uniforms — with military insignia removed — and roaming around the nation's capital on a mock patrol.

After Kokesh was identified in a photo caption in The Washington Post, a superior officer sent him a letter saying he might have violated a rule prohibiting troops from wearing uniforms without authorization.

Kokesh, a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, responded with an obscenity.

Now, a military panel has been scheduled to meet with Kokesh on Monday to decide whether his discharge status should be changed from "honorable" to "other than honorable."

"This is clearly a case of selective prosecution and intimidation of veterans who speak out against the war," Kokesh said. "To suggest that while as a veteran you don't have freedom of speech is absurd."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marines; military; protest; veterans
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To: usmcobra; angrymarine
I just found something online that makes both of you guys' point very well. It's from a company that sells MARPAT camo in a civvy version.

To quote the site:

"The newest advancement in camouflage technology is the digitally enhanced camouflage pattern known as MARPAT™, which stands for Marine Pattern camouflage. The United States Marine Corps holds a patent on the design of actual issue material and is currently only granting production licenses to to companies who produce clothing directly to the Marine Corps, thus making it unavailable to the civilian market. The digital camo clothing that we are offering here is a slightly modified variation of actual MARPAT™ clothing and unless someone comes up and and looks close for the miniature eagle, globe and anchor insignia, which is embedded in the official issue clothing, no one will know the difference."

So, it appears that at least the Marine new pattern is quite distinctively a US Military uniform.

41 posted on 05/31/2007 9:09:08 AM PDT by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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To: USMCWife6869

‘Personally, I think he should be left in a room with some Marines who actually act like Marines, regs or not.’

A fine idea, I doubt there would be a shortage of volunteers.

‘But that wouldn’t be right’

Maybe so, but it doesn’t keep it from being a fine idea.


42 posted on 05/31/2007 9:15:17 AM PDT by xone
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To: jagusafr

administratively and legally, “R” is R, whether its IRR, Drilling reserve (SMCR or IMA), or AR. Always subject to administrative and legal action. The only limitation for that reservist who commits a crime while not under orders is the jusrisdiction of the particular legal authority. Typically its a civiilan jurisdiction, but there are scenarios where it is military or even federal (in the case of the non-marine passing himself off as a retired officer or the reservist going to a parade wearing medals he doesnt rate).


43 posted on 05/31/2007 10:16:30 AM PDT by angrymarine (I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself.)
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To: Kerretarded

Mike Hoffman who started IVAW bragged about them being called the “rock stars of the anti-war moevment.”


44 posted on 05/31/2007 12:23:05 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I’ve seen the pics. They have nametags, etc.

Went back and looked at a group photo, a line up. He's removed everything but the Globe and Anchor. And I think that's in the fabric.

45 posted on 05/31/2007 12:24:35 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: bolobaby
The Iraq Veterans Against The War (Tim Goodrich) gave "testimony" at the World Tribunal on Iraq. WTI is Winter Soldier on steroids and on an international stage.

The Iraq Veterans Against The War are Vietnam Veterans Against The War pretenders. They even try and look like John Kerry and his rat bastard traitors from the 60's. The IVAW has tried to reenact, resurrect a number of the old protests from the 60's. Their rendition of "Operation Dewey Canyon" is best described as "Operation Screwy Canyon".

46 posted on 05/31/2007 12:31:18 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: dusttoyou

Another areticle states he bought a pistol home. He was marked “Class 4 Inelligble to reenilst” according to that same article. Guess they just decide to toss out the trash.


47 posted on 05/31/2007 12:33:29 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: wearearepublic
It's worse than they made out. Here, from Cpl Kokesh's own web site, is the letter his Reserve CO sent him regarding the uniform regulation he is accused of violating:

Here is the reply Cpl Kokesh sent to his Reserve CO, Maj Whyte:


48 posted on 06/02/2007 7:11:19 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Lady J USA 1981

Pictures of the protest:

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/03/19/18379446.php


49 posted on 06/02/2007 7:31:48 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Thanks, II hadn’t see that. Kokesh is an even bigger fool that I thought him to be.


50 posted on 06/03/2007 7:59:02 AM PDT by wearearepublic
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To: Lady J USA 1981

I heard on the radio that the VFW supports him. Anybody want to tell us why? I don’t expect the VFW leadership to personally contact me and every other member and ask us for our input, but it would have been nice if we could have at least some input, one way or the other.


51 posted on 06/04/2007 8:44:44 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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