Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Howlin]

thank God I’m not your mother, but it sure sounds like she knows what she’s talking about.

[mkjessup]

http://shainla.typepad.com/photos/camp_ho_2006/finger.jpg

Hey is that you Howlin? A bit of a tomboy eh?

[flashbunny]

“Thanks NU. It’s an interesting thread.”

The thread has created a couple of “undocumented freepers” already.

[FreeReign]

I said I would rather have Hilary as a president than Rudy... But I didn’t say I’d vote for her. I think she would be less dangerous than Rudy, and I think she would likely be tougher on the rag-heads.

What an absolutely stupid post.

[Rodney King]

The Giuliani supporters have a habit of lying and distorting his liberal record to try to convince us to vote for him. It has the effect of our discounting the good things that he has done.

Let’s not make the same mistake. Rudy was a great Mayor, and he is up on the Arab threat. He did a good job on 9/11.. well, people like you and I who govern ourselves with logic don’t see what the big deal is, but apparently the country thought so.

There is no need to diminish the good job that Rudy did as Mayor. The fact is, however, that basically he is a liberal and not fit to run our country.

[TAdams8591]

"The only lesson I aim to teach is to vote FOR your candidate because they represent YOUR values"

But if that candidate can't win you are not voting for your values. You are voting for a candidate who can't win.

[Howlin]

You are part of what is WRONG with FR.

Shove it up your butt, punk.

[Jim Robinson]

No, it’s as in: conservatives who support liberal positions like abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, etc, are “betraying the conservative cause.” I do not see anything incorrect in that statement. Do you?

[alicewonders]

LOL! I am going now - enjoy your howl.

[Rodney King]

that fiscal conservatism or promoting the idea of small government was not on their radar screen. In fact with earmarks and pork bills like the farm bill, the energy bill, the highway bill and the medicaid billAt this point I’m unclear how socons are fiscal conservatives or believe in a smaller less intrusive government. If I’m wrong...tell me. I’d like to believe that.

You are right, but how the hell is voting for a guy that voted for Mario Cuomo the answer?

[CharlesWayneCT]

Yes. I even have mastered the art of hitting the "to post" button more than one time, so I could go back to the original reference and make comments based on the origin of a topic.

Like in this case, your reply to Jim where you said:

Ditto with mentioning that Reagan used to be a Democrat and signed what at the time was the most liberal abortion legislation in the nation.

Now, you were saying that if you couldn't say things like that about Reagan, Jim would simply have to ban you. My question is, why do you feel you need to say that about Reagan? Because you think he was right, and therefore Rudy is also right to support abortion? Or because you think Reagan was wrong, but he later changed, and you think Rudy will change as well?

Or is it just that you think that if you point out Reagan had a flaw, but we supported him, we will have to support Rudy even though he has flaws?

What is the point of bringing up the fact that Reagan signed an abortion bill in the 1960s? Why do you bring it up?

That is my question, and your response was non-responsive to that question, and I'd really like to know the answer.

[philetus]

Not only do I not expect you to do that, I would shoot my computer if you ever did.

[M. Thatcher]

You want it both ways: you justify calling me a treasonous liberal but can’t defend it.

[babygene]

“I will never forgive you for calling me a treasonous liberal as long as I live.”

BOO hoo hoo...

[rintense]

You have no one to blame but YOURSELVES for supporting a candidate simply because you’re afraid of Hillary. If Rudy gets the nod, and Hillary beats him, YOU will be to blame. Period.

[mkjessup]

I knew you were alone alot.
If you weren’t, somebody would have told you by now that you’re not funny.

Actually, I'm beginning to think that you just don't have a very sophisticated sense of humor.

Of course an old crow like you probably doesn't find a whole lot to laugh about.

[Rex Anderson]

How old are you, 12?

[Howlin]

You’re wasting your rant; he was banned.

[Just sayin]

How do you determine who can and can’t win? I thought we had elections for that? Oh yeah, I guess we should believe anything the media says and vote for who they say can win.......One poll matters and is valid, th one one voting day......in ‘writing’ by registered voters.

Nope not me. Like I said, I am voting Hunter because he has earned my vote with his actions. Maybe your predominant value is winning? Good for you, but for me other values come first win or lose.

[flashbunny]

Don't forget that rudy opposed making english the official language