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Judge: Florida woman didn't break law by exposing breasts
The Miami Herald ^ | December 15, 2006 | AP

Posted on 12/15/2006 5:24:52 AM PST by King of Florida

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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Ugh is an understatement. That's one of the tragedies of this life — that the women who are most inclined to bare their breasts in public are always the fugliest ones.


21 posted on 12/15/2006 5:41:43 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida
A woman did not break the law when she exposed her breasts to protest laws that bar women from publicly going bare breasted, a judge has ruled.

Am I missing something here? A judge ruled that the woman did not break the law when she broke the law. Entering bizzaro world.....
22 posted on 12/15/2006 5:43:53 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy.)
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To: King of Florida
Ugh is an understatement. That's one of the tragedies of this life — that the women who are most inclined to bare their breasts in public are always the fugliest ones.

That rule seems to apply on topless beaches all over the world, too.

23 posted on 12/15/2006 5:44:00 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: King of Florida
A woman did not break the law when she exposed her breasts to protest laws that bar women from publicly going bare breasted, a judge has ruled.

WTF???

24 posted on 12/15/2006 5:44:02 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Life's greatest obstacle is in the mirror.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
whoa, more ladies than her were busted ! nyuk,nyuk,nyuk
25 posted on 12/15/2006 5:47:34 AM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: Izzy Dunne
Well, she did bear her chest, I suppose.

Yes, indeed. But one isn't usually arrested for it.

26 posted on 12/15/2006 5:50:47 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Well, if we can bear arms, why not chests?

The sad truth is it seems we are getting to the point where we can be arrested for both.

27 posted on 12/15/2006 5:51:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: RacerF150
A woman did not break the law when she exposed her breasts to protest laws that bar women from publicly going bare breasted, a judge has ruled. WTF???

Obviously she DID break the law unless the law is whatever a judge says it is and in today's world that's they way "progressives" feeeeeel. However there is a long history of breaking laws to protest them. From refusing to pay taxes, dumping tea in harbors, ignoring motorcycle helmet laws, smoking joints to sitting at "Whites only" lunch counters. Bring on the breasts...are we not men enough to take the good with the bad?

28 posted on 12/15/2006 5:52:37 AM PST by rhombus
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To: King of Florida

“Hey, it's free speech, you know!”

29 posted on 12/15/2006 5:55:52 AM PST by cartan
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To: looscnnn

You said, in part: This is about equal protection under the laws, regardless of what we think of women being topless in public. This is no different than the Selective Service, which is also a sexist law.
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The underlying case about the right for women to go topless IS about equal protection (I don't think it is a valid case, however. There are many distinctions in the law relating to gender. Laws against assault on a female are an example of this.)

The issue at present, however, is about the limits of free speech. The example of cocaine use in protest of laws against it is, I think, a pretty good example of how free speech can be abused and allowed to subvert the rule of law. No one has said that this woman cannot protest against the law prohibiting bare female breasts to be exposed in public, only that she cannot violate the law she opposes and call it free speech. To allow otherwise would turn the law on its head. She can protest in other ways, and she can bring an action to find the law unconstitutional. Or, she can violate the law and then attempt to defend herself on equal protection grounds.

She may engage in an act of civil disobedience, but the consequences are potentially being charged with a violation of the law.

It is against the law to touch a woman's breasts when such a touching is not welcome. I wonder how far I would get with the argument that I was merely protesting that law by fondling women's breasts on the street? I don't see a legal distinction between my hypothetical act and this woman's.


30 posted on 12/15/2006 5:59:35 AM PST by NCLaw441
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31 posted on 12/15/2006 6:00:31 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: rhombus
However there is a long history of breaking laws to protest them. From refusing to pay taxes, dumping tea in harbors, ignoring motorcycle helmet laws, smoking joints to sitting at "Whites only" lunch counters. Bring on the breasts...are we not men enough to take the good with the bad?

I think this revolution should be led by Jessica Biel and Lindsay Lohan. If they refuse, accuse them of being unpatriotic and threaten to have them blacklisted.

32 posted on 12/15/2006 6:01:22 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida

She can come to Texas today! It is legal here for women to bare their breasts anytime, anywhere, for any reason.


33 posted on 12/15/2006 6:04:57 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: King of Florida
A woman did not break the law when she exposed her breasts to protest laws that bar women from publicly going bare breasted, a judge has ruled.

Well I guess that's a load off her chest.

34 posted on 12/15/2006 6:06:07 AM PST by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: NCLaw441
It is against the law to touch a woman's breasts when such a touching is not welcome. I wonder how far I would get with the argument that I was merely protesting that law by fondling women's breasts on the street? I don't see a legal distinction between my hypothetical act and this woman's.

It may be that the judge in the matter decided to rule that the defendant had not broken the law in order to deny the defendant the required legal standing to have the law changed. If I understand correctly, now that this woman has been declared not in violation of the law, she lacks standing to have the law overturned by (eventually) the state supreme court.

35 posted on 12/15/2006 6:07:45 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: 2harddrive

I need to get to Texas more often. I don't have a problem with women baring their breasts as long as there is no law requiring us to look.


36 posted on 12/15/2006 6:08:14 AM PST by NCLaw441
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You said: It may be that the judge in the matter decided to rule that the defendant had not broken the law in order to deny the defendant the required legal standing to have the law changed. If I understand correctly, now that this woman has been declared not in violation of the law, she lacks standing to have the law overturned by (eventually) the state supreme court.
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I think that is excellent legal analysis on your part. The only trouble with this basis for the judge's decision (if that is in fact what he based his ruling on) is that it leaves a hole a truck could drive through in the law. All anyone has to do if stopped for baring one's breasts is to announce that it is being done as a protest. This woman may have been denied standing to challenge a law that she is allowed to break. Somehow I don't think this is what the state legislature intended. Perhaps I should protest speed limit laws using the same logic.


37 posted on 12/15/2006 6:11:56 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Your kidding right?


38 posted on 12/15/2006 6:14:55 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: duckman

Yes, I would also like to be kept abreast of the events as they disrobe uh unfold.


39 posted on 12/15/2006 6:16:55 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: 2harddrive
She can come to Texas today! It is legal here for women to bare their breasts anytime, anywhere, for any reason.

It is legal here for women to bare their breasts anytime, anywhere, for any reason, BUT some should keep their tops on.

40 posted on 12/15/2006 6:17:12 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The terrorists have many allies in the United States, especially in the democrat party.)
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