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Early Roman Shipwreck Carried Fish Sauce
Breitbart.com ^ | 11-13-06 | DANIEL WOOLLS

Posted on 11/14/2006 2:47:35 AM PST by dbehsman

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Interesting. There is more to the article if you click on the link. There is also a picture of an area of the wreck.
1 posted on 11/14/2006 2:47:37 AM PST by dbehsman
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I wonder if it was tartar sauce. ;-)


2 posted on 11/14/2006 3:23:39 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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Maybe a newly-recovered recipe for our enjoyment?

Maybe fish food?

:-)


3 posted on 11/14/2006 3:25:30 AM PST by bannie
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Its cargo of an estimated 1,500 well-preserved clay amphoras was used in this case to hold fish sauce _ a prized condiment for wealthy Romans, he said.

Sounds like fish sauce was the Grey Poupon of the day. I imagine there were some frowns when the ship never arrived.
4 posted on 11/14/2006 3:29:10 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; raccoonradio
"I wonder if it was TAR-TAR sauce."

Ha , Howie will be pleased

I wonder if the Romans had "green weenies and moooonbats' crying that"We'll be out of seafood in fifty years?"

5 posted on 11/14/2006 3:38:17 AM PST by Cheapskate ( You got your pitchfork and I got my gun, somthin's got to give !)
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To: dbehsman

The Romans were very fond of fish sauce, and used it as a seasoning in many foods. It was an important trade item in the Mediterranean.


6 posted on 11/14/2006 3:45:28 AM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: bannie

Yeah, I was interested in hearing the recipe. Alas, the Octopii ate it. :-P


7 posted on 11/14/2006 3:49:11 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: dbehsman

Shipwreck with fish sauce? Sounds a bit too heavy for my tastes.


8 posted on 11/14/2006 3:54:57 AM PST by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: dbehsman

The Roman Version of WD-40?


9 posted on 11/14/2006 4:22:05 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Sounds like fish sauce was the Grey Poupon of the day. I imagine there were some frowns when the ship never arrived.

If I recall correctly, it was called "Garum", and some of the best was made in a town wiped out by the Vesuvius eruption. Herculanium?

I had read the Romans dumped it on foods the way some people abuse A-1 sauce.

10 posted on 11/14/2006 4:29:02 AM PST by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Yeah, I was interested in hearing the recipe. Alas, the Octopii ate it. :-P

Hic garum est:

Ancient Garum Recipe

Use fatty fish, for example, sardines, and a well-sealed (pitched) container with a 26-35 quart capacity.

Add dried, aromatic herbs possessing a strong flavor, such as dill, coriander, fennel, celery, mint, oregano, and others, making a layer on the bottom of the container; then put down a layer of fish (if small, leave them whole, if large, use pieces) and over this, add a layer of salt two fingers high.

Repeat these layers until the container is filled. Let it rest for seven days in the sun.

Then mix the sauce daily for 20 days. After that, it becomes a liquid.

- Gargilius Martialis, De medicina et de virtute herbarum, reprinted from A Taste of Ancient Rome by Ilaria Gozzini Giacosa, Anna Herklotz (Translator).

Publisher: University of Chicago Press; Reprint edition (May 2, 1994) ISBN: 0226290328

11 posted on 11/14/2006 5:06:28 AM PST by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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12 posted on 11/14/2006 5:11:55 AM PST by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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Yep, Garum AKA liquamen. Here's the recipe from the below link. It sure explains why the fish bones were found in the jars, which surprised me. I've been interested in ancient recipes, but I won't ask anyone to "pass the garum!":

"Ancient Garum Recipe
Use fatty fish, for example, sardines, and a well-sealed (pitched) container with a 26-35 quart capacity. Add dried, aromatic herbs possessing a strong flavor, such as dill, coriander, fennel, celery, mint, oregano, and others, making a layer on the bottom of the container; then put down a layer of fish (if small, leave them whole, if large, use pieces) and over this, add a layer of salt two fingers high. Repeat these layers until the container is filled. Let it rest for seven days in the sun. Then mix the sauce daily for 20 days. After that, it becomes a liquid."

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/romanfood/g/garum.htm


13 posted on 11/14/2006 5:12:01 AM PST by Moonmad27
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They also found the sports section from a recent issue of the Roman Times on the wreck. The headline read: Lions 21, Christians 7. ;-)
14 posted on 11/14/2006 5:20:01 AM PST by Unknown Pundit (I really do post with a paper bag over my head.)
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Actually it was probably closer to Thai Fish Sauce. The name of the Roman version escapes me at the moment but it was produced by a similar process. Large vats with sardines and other fishy fish allowed to ferment in the hot sun....


15 posted on 11/14/2006 5:28:00 AM PST by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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"in this case to hold fish sauce _ a prized condiment for wealthy Romans"


It was a common condiment, not just for rich people -- it was the equivalent of Ketchup/Catsup.

Most people dont realize the industrial scale of many things done by the Romans. Many things they did were not surpassed until the current age.
16 posted on 11/14/2006 6:07:32 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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The Christians killed 7 lions? Impressive.


17 posted on 11/14/2006 6:21:10 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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"Then mix the sauce daily for 20 days. After that, it becomes a liquid."

...and be sure to stand upwind while performing this step...

18 posted on 11/14/2006 6:39:43 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Verginius Rufus
LOL.... They had a really strong team that year, but sadly, still lost every match.

All kidding aside though, I'm certainly thankful to not to have been around in those times. Life was so cheap to so many. Still is today in many places around the world. Sigh.

19 posted on 11/14/2006 6:40:30 AM PST by Unknown Pundit (I really do post with a paper bag over my head.)
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To: bannie

The fish sauce was made in the communities around the Sea of Galilee.


20 posted on 11/14/2006 6:47:04 AM PST by common denominator
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