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Dick Morris: 20 years of Democratic Control
Fox News | 11/9/06

Posted on 11/09/2006 5:25:38 AM PST by pabianice

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To: peyton randolph

Whether Morris is right or not has little of nothing to do with Bush but rather whether the Treason Media retains control of the popular mind. That was the reason the GOP lost not because of Illegal Aliens or any other such crap. If the truth were told 24/7 rather than lies 24/7 there would be a huge GOP majority across the land and in DC.

Tuesday the Treason Media inflicted a huge defeat on the Right and the United States. Those on the Right who wanted to punish the GOP are about to see big increases in everything they hate.

Illegal aliens proved to be a huge distraction to the Right turning the foolish against the GOP while giving the Party of Treason a free pass and a big boost. Stupidity reigns.


101 posted on 11/09/2006 6:50:33 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: ClaireSolt

"Bush has never favored amnesty."

B.S. He just calls it "comprehensive immigration reform." It is amnesty by another name.

"You just look bad when you twist his position."

You just show your ignorance when you pretend that amnesty is not amnesty.

"Take that to the Art Bell show."

Never listen to the guy. Is he still around. Heard he was getting Third World mail-order brides. Right up your alley.


102 posted on 11/09/2006 6:59:23 AM PST by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: pabianice

This is nonsense. We no longer have a liberal monopoly in the news media. The growth of talk radio, the internet and Fox News have all helped to balance the playing field just a little.


103 posted on 11/09/2006 7:02:06 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Guenevere
And you know this because ?

They are in power.

104 posted on 11/09/2006 7:08:11 AM PST by Risha (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: ruffedgrouse

AP: Democrats win control of Senate with Jim Webb victory in Virginia...
Preliminary: Senate Ballots cast: 31,591,495 (D) 25,054,569 (R)...

This according to Drudge Report heading.
One can assume the same votes were cast for the
House. I also heard on Foxnews the polls were
showing a 40% turnout across the nation.
Pathetic for a free world nation being
threatened by Terrorist fanatics.
But there's hope! Hillary is bound to send
a trusted ally...like husband Bill...to the
United Nations where all the strife will be
abridged!
.


105 posted on 11/09/2006 7:16:14 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: peyton randolph
A few million Mexicans? We've got that many in the just the Dallas/Ft. Worth metro area? Try 12 million as a conservative number...probably closer to 20 million nationwide.

I think it's much higher than 20 million. Maricopa County Arizona (which includes the Phoenix Metro area) is over 25% Hispanic. Population of Maricopa County is 3.64 million, which means probabaly 1 million in this county are Hispanic. I don't have any idea what % of those are illegal, but quite a few.

Now translate that across the country. I think there are way more than 20 million illegal Hispanics nationwide. Remember, it's not just Mexicans, they come from Central and South American also.

106 posted on 11/09/2006 7:26:42 AM PST by Babu
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To: Bean Counter

PERMANENT MINORITY STATUS... that is what your third party will be.

LLS


107 posted on 11/09/2006 7:27:01 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: pabianice; All

lol! This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Republicans lost because voters:

1) Are tired of the Iraq they see on the news, and want some changes. A lot of this is our fault...failure to see it as a problem, unwillingness to admit problems, change course etc. in a way that would not be cutting and running.

2) Corruption.....we have handled this issue horribly. Instead of saying "we will clean up our mess and do real reform," we passed limp-wristed reform measures and basically said "Democrats do it, too." Yeah, we kicked people out, but that is not what the voters saw. They saw our rationalization and whining.

3) Lack of action/getting the sense that Republicans are out of touch. Frankly, it is hard to name one significant, tout-at-election-time achievement of the Republicans in the last year.

The Republicans had no plan to win except say "the Dems have no plan." While true, it did not work. And rightly so. Voters wanted to see our agenda, something radical, something to attract their interest. We didn't even offer anything boring. We offered nothing.

All of this combined to make this president, the history-defying president actually having coattails, to perhaps have reverse coattails this year. The voters wanted change, and it is not hard to see why.

This banishment to the desert will give us time to get shaken back to our core as a party of who we are, and give us time to re-energize us, which we need.

The past year or so the Republicans have been running on autopilot.

As for Morris' prediction of 20-year rule? That is beyond ridiculous.

This was not a sea change in voter sentiment. It was a slight ripple based on frustration with Republicans, contrary to most on this site, by independents and Dems, not Republicans staying home.

VOTERS WERE NOT VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS. THEY WERE VOTING "LET'S TRY SOMETHING NEW.....THE REPUBLICANS HAVE FRANKLY NOT ONE DIDDLY SQUAT THIS PAST YEAR, AND THEY SEEM TO NOT BE LISTENING ON IRAQ. WE DON'T LOVE THE DEMS MORE THAN THE GOP, BUT WE WILL GIVE THEM A SHOT. WE CAN KICK THEM OUT IN 2008 IF WE HAVE TO DO SO."

If Democrats remain center-focused like they have suddenly become again with Emanuel (former Clinton guy) smartly realizing you need a "vital center," they can win some elections. But, if they do these investigations, turn to the left etc., I firmly believe the voters will kick them out. America is still a center-right nation, not a liberal country. The battle for the Democratic Party soul is on..."New Democrat" Emanuel vs. Nancy Pelosi and others.

And if Nancy goes all-out liberal, the Democrats will pay at the ballot box in 2008.

I really hope she does, because if she does not, in my opinion, it will be MUCH HARDER for Republicans to win elections from now on. It will be Clinton all over again...appealing to the middle and any attempt we have to call them liberal will not stick.

To win in that environment if the Dems actually stay moderate until 2008 (which seems unlikely to me), we will HAVE to do a Contract with America 2. That type of move would make voters see conservatism as appealing and a reform movement. That would resonate with voters and cause us to win. But, if the Dems stay moderate, I can guarantee having us just call the "moderate" Democrats liberal without an alternative plan *****WILL COST US ANY CHANCE FOR WINNING IN 2008 OR LATER******.


108 posted on 11/09/2006 7:27:43 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Darnright

Thanks, Darnright


109 posted on 11/09/2006 7:40:16 AM PST by saveliberty (If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: Element187

Certainly sooner than 20 or 12 as one FReeper suggests


110 posted on 11/09/2006 7:42:48 AM PST by saveliberty (If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: ClaireSolt

New blood (leadership) is the only thing that can save the GOP.


111 posted on 11/09/2006 7:43:49 AM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: bushfamfan
"This really is the fall of the American republic."

Not if you and everyone who love America will fight for it.

112 posted on 11/09/2006 7:45:54 AM PST by StormEye
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To: pabianice

If the Dems turn the next two years into a series of hearings about Iraq etc, they might put the Republicans right back in control. The public does NOT want hearings or to rehash past decisions; they will just see it as BS politics, and will turn against the Dems. These things have ALREADY been investigated two or three times. The public is sick of politics, and if the Dems use this as an opportunity for politics and more politics, they will be the losers.


113 posted on 11/09/2006 7:47:16 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, avoid the moor, where the powers of darkness are exalted.")
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To: andy58-in-nh

Do you reject the notion that if John Shadegg had been voted to replace Tom Delay that the situation would have been much different?


114 posted on 11/09/2006 7:47:25 AM PST by saveliberty (If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Sorry I meant of the House leadership vote this time last year.

We knew it was bad and Shadegg was a vote for big changes. But they chose Boehner who is a good man, but he fell short of the plans for change.


115 posted on 11/09/2006 7:49:12 AM PST by saveliberty (If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: pabianice

sick of Morris. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth, and on both sides of his head.


116 posted on 11/09/2006 7:49:33 AM PST by commonguymd
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To: Lewite

I guess republicans just were not motivated HO HUM, we couldn't even get the dead or infirm or illegals to vote. We will be sorry because in 2008, 22 million new amnesty by democrat illegals, will also vote for them, so it could be a very long time if ever


117 posted on 11/09/2006 7:54:28 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: Risha

God also disciplines those he loves...


118 posted on 11/09/2006 8:05:47 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: saveliberty
To be honest with you, I don't think the Republicans could have saved their majority under any circumstances this year, even if a change of leadership had been effected far earlier. The problem is not just leadership at the top, but throughout the ranks.

It seems almost inevitable that after being in power for a period of time, political parties lose their way. After a burst of initiative and activity, followed by implementation of some or many of their goals - their enthusiasm wanes. They lose their focus as the original agenda takes a backseat to the imperatives of governance. And then, as time goes by, the object of governance is no longer the pursuit of coherent policy, but the maintenance of power.

Don't feel badly, and certainly don't give up. It happens to most people in most parties. The Republicans may well need to fall further before they are ready to pick their sorry behinds off the ground, shake off the dust and get back to the blackboard to relearn all they forgot while playing the game.

One thing that will help them do so earlier would be the emergence of a new national leader - a person of principle, wisdom, vision, honor, courage and great good humor. One or more are out there. We need to find them - or wait until they find themselves.


119 posted on 11/09/2006 8:08:38 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: pabianice
Good morning.

Can someone please shut this person up?

I mean Morris, not you Pabiance.

Michael Frazier
120 posted on 11/09/2006 8:13:03 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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