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Pres. Bush will hold 1 pm news conference. [significant announcement per Drudge]
FNC | 11/08/2006 | FNC

Posted on 11/08/2006 4:27:22 AM PST by tsmith130

Subtle gong alert, scrolled on the bottom of the screen.


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To: KsSunflower
We aren't going to get fresh eyes, we are getting a new bird who will take the fall.

Just think of what is going to happen when all the defense spending bills don't make it out of committee.
551 posted on 11/08/2006 10:20:17 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: harbinger of doom

he can't really polish this turd...

He knows dang well what the remaining 2 years of his administration will be.

My guesses on "investigation of the month"
1. WMD INtelligence "failure"
2. Iraq War "failure"
3. "loss" of OBL
4. Katrina "Failure"
5. Energy Policy of Evil Dick Cheney
and a couple more..."Corruption" investigations

now figure 2-4 months each and we're ready for Presidential primaries!

This Administration is pretty much over, but Bush will keep swinging with what he has left.

On the "Compromise" side we will also see amnesty for illegals, increased minimum wage, expanded benefits for seniors, increased entitlements


552 posted on 11/08/2006 10:20:20 AM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Fishtalk

Yes, Bush just said he lied to a reporter, so as to not effect the election.

I'm not sure that it would have helped republicans at all in the election for Bush to announce this last week, as I think we can see conservatives would have been disallusioned, and I don't think too many people would have voted republicans just because Rumsfeld was going.

I do like that this is being seen as an election on Iraq, whch it was. That should make it hard for the democrats to pass much of their agenda, since they never got votes based on Iraq.

Bush is also right that the other big factor was scandal, and while some was manufactured and democrat scandal was ignored so far, the republicans did have problems with scandal, Abramoff was not a good thing, and that also doesn't help democrats pass their agenda.

If it wasn't for Judges and Immigration, I wouldn't be upset (that and losing my own Senator really sucks, I'd love to be able to say that at least Virginia did it's part, but we didn't, and my OWN COUNTY didn't go for Allen, which sickens me).

Bush will still send good Judges, they just won't get voted on, but he was for immigration reform that will now pass.

OK, so now Bush is saying he did not LIE about Rumsfeld, because he hadn't made the decision before he talked to Gates, and Bush wasn't going to make the final decision until after the election because he didn't want it to be political.

So that's good. At least he didn't lie to the reporters.


553 posted on 11/08/2006 10:20:35 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Toespi
The big SELLOUT. RWR wouldn't be cowing down.

When I saw W standing on the rubble at Ground Zero with a bullhorn, I thought, "We got ourselves a president!" Now its 180 degree turn.

554 posted on 11/08/2006 10:20:41 AM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: tsmith130
Pres. Bush: I didn't want to inject a major policy decision like this in the middle of an election. I gave you that answer to move you onto your next question. I also had not finished talking with Gates

No, Bush knew that firing Rumsfeld before the election would anger the base, so he held off. However, I don't think the final decision was made until last night, when they saw the magnitude of the losses. They are just doing damage control, bring in some one new, gain some time, take away a mayor talking point away from the opposition.

555 posted on 11/08/2006 10:20:51 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: tsmith130

Pretty good question by Suzanne.


556 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:32 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (I'm not paranoid. But everyone thinks I am.)
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To: RightWhale

Even Rush didn't know how to respond and just went to break.


557 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:36 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: redgolum

Rush just cut the presser on WABC - Rush sounds completely drained. he knows, as we do, that this presser is a total disaster.


558 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:40 AM PST by oceanview
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To: tsmith130

Reporters are kind of dumb.

The VP is elected, not appointed.

A resignation would be at Cheney's option, not GW's.


559 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Fishtalk

I figure if I talk to myself I will always have an intelligent audience.

Now a big part of my brain thinks that this Commander-in-Chief HAS to know what he's doing.

Did he threaten the congress pubbies with throwing Rumsfeld under the bus if they lose? Better, did he PROMISE the congress pubbies with throwing Rumsfeld under the bus if they lose?

I'm trying to be calm but it's going to take a lot to convince me that this so obvious capitulation to the loonies is a good thing and further, WHY NOW?

I'm not done yet. Kinda like talking to myself.


560 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:42 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: harbinger of doom; Howlin
Agreed. President Bush STOP NOW!

>>>Or at the very least, unleash our armed forces and let them do their job.<<<

Post of the day so far! With that, I gotta get off FR for awhile and regroup. This has been too much... I don't know what to think anymore.

561 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:46 AM PST by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: rintense

My eldest son goes to boot camp within the week. I'm not a happy camper.


562 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:49 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Don't be a Nancy Boy, Vote Republican!")
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To: ShandaLear

I can't imagine what Bush is thinking and going through today...

His job is tough and it hurts to see so many negative comments about him and what he's saying. Seems like a lot of fare-weather fans (for lack of a better description).


563 posted on 11/08/2006 10:21:50 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Pulling our troops from Iraq now would be like pulling firefighters from fires before they are out.)
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To: nutmeg

Damn scary. My nephew just went over to Iraq in September and now all this is going down. Time to pray harder than ever for all our own serving right now.


564 posted on 11/08/2006 10:22:47 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: redgolum

The democrats have now been give a responsibility. They cannot continue to just sit and criticize. The next Presidential election will be very soon. They cannot put themselves in a position where they are blamed for terror attacks, losing the war, etc.


565 posted on 11/08/2006 10:22:47 AM PST by KsSunflower
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To: Lucky9teen

I just do not know what to say..


566 posted on 11/08/2006 10:22:49 AM PST by JFC
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To: mutley

I give Bush this.He is honest to a fault.His emotions and glue are in an honest reaction mode. Ain't a single handfull of politicians that honest


567 posted on 11/08/2006 10:22:51 AM PST by advertising guy
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To: Lucky9teen

I agree - I'm not hearing a defeatist.


568 posted on 11/08/2006 10:23:03 AM PST by Alissa
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To: ARCADIA

so why didn't he do this in August?


569 posted on 11/08/2006 10:23:32 AM PST by oceanview
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To: nutmeg

This needs to stop..NOW.


570 posted on 11/08/2006 10:23:34 AM PST by maineman
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To: oceanview

Bush trying to clarify that the cumulitive affect of the election is a thumping to the NYT reporter...


571 posted on 11/08/2006 10:23:46 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: nutmeg

Yes, Suzanne just asked a very hurtful question. I wish I could see all the skeletons in their closets but they cover each other's backs.


572 posted on 11/08/2006 10:23:52 AM PST by jaycee
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Rumsfeld has been trying to resign for at least a couple years. Maybe Rumsfeld wanted out.


573 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:05 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Not sure about tired bit but may feel he was a polarizing figure
574 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:07 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: Lucky9teen

Not really. Its the people who have always supported him who can't understand anything he's saying in this presser.


575 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:15 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: oceanview

Bush has only lost once in his career. I don't think he has the slightest clue how to deal with it.

I can tell him this much. This isn't how you handle loss.

He should have looked to Leiberman for an example. You strike back and put your opponent on the defensive before they've even adjusted to winning one battle.

What he should have been doing effective immediately was announcing the terrorists in Iraq and their sympathtizers are not going to face a restrained military anymore and started pounding them down into the ground. Then he should have taken the new tone gloves off and started telling people the truth about the Dems, the Islamofascists and articulate the conservative message that helped Dems win last night.

Instead we get Rummy sacrificed to the wolves and further appeals to new tone.


576 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:26 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: KsSunflower
You are assuming that they don't have a "working agreement" with the terrorists already.
577 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:39 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Lucky9teen
Reporter:Pelosi has called you incompetent, dangerous, etc.
Bush:Well, she really didn't mean that...
Yeah, they're all laughing now...idiots.
578 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:48 AM PST by harbinger of doom (Bush...stop talking.)
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To: Ladysmith

get him out now. get him out of the military if you can. the american people who elected this Dem majority, are not worthy of his valor and sacrifice.


579 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:54 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Ladysmith

Maybe we'll be less PC in how we fight now? That would be good.


580 posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:53 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: CharlesWayneCT
At least he didn't lie to the reporters.

Okay Charles, I'll talk to you. Cause I sense sarcasm here.

Remember that I did state that he handled admitting he lied quite awkwardly. It seemed prolonged, almost daring us to fill in the silent space.

Everyone KNOWS they LIE to Reporters. But...

Ah well. I agree on your cautious appraisal of matters right now.

I still feel something mighty wrong with this whole thing but I gotta go find my wits.

581 posted on 11/08/2006 10:25:08 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: Abigail Adams

President Bush is a politician. He knows politics is business. He doesn't take things personally. He is a BIG man.


582 posted on 11/08/2006 10:25:23 AM PST by KsSunflower
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To: SeaBiscuit

I'm in shock everybody... what the hell is going on today?


583 posted on 11/08/2006 10:25:23 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: redgolum
Gosh. He just called all the Republicans who lost dishonest.
WTF? Did I wake up on bizzaro world today?

No. Many of the seatslost were to corruption issues. Going all the way back to Duke Cunningahm, Ney,Foley, and so on....at least 7.

584 posted on 11/08/2006 10:25:39 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: EternalVigilance

I wouldn't be either. Now he's talking about the carnage on TV? Where the hell is the positive stuff he's been spouting for the past two years? This is incredible.


585 posted on 11/08/2006 10:25:57 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: Abigail Adams

"Maybe we'll be less PC in how we fight now? That would be good."

I just don't see how that washes out of all this.


586 posted on 11/08/2006 10:26:02 AM PST by mutley (The dems and the terrorists are celebrating the day.)
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To: MarMema
Rummy deserves a better salute than that. Somehow I expect that there will a few spontaneous straight back salutes given every time he comes within sight of a service member - active or retired.

Even Patton and MacArthur got handed their helmets - but they still are revered by those that knew them best.
587 posted on 11/08/2006 10:26:05 AM PST by anymouse
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To: jaycee

At least the MSM is carrying something Bush has to say on all channels for a change.


588 posted on 11/08/2006 10:26:35 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Alissa

He just made a salient point: It was a close election, but the cumulative effect was a 'thumping."

Putting the thumping aside for a moment, one thing we need to always remember is that the country is still narrowly divided.


589 posted on 11/08/2006 10:26:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Don't be a Nancy Boy, Vote Republican!")
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To: rintense
Where the hell is the positive stuff he's been spouting for the past two years?

Apparently, the majority of voters didn't believe him.

590 posted on 11/08/2006 10:26:50 AM PST by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: satan

yeah, you christian homophobes are unpatriotic - let's see what measures we have to control you...


591 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:02 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: jaycee

Bush is human too and I'm sure he's doing the best he can with what he's being given.


592 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:03 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Pulling our troops from Iraq now would be like pulling firefighters from fires before they are out.)
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To: mutley

I'm sorry but I disagree with you vehemently. He is working under extrordinary conditions. I think he is very hurt and is trying to cover it up. Our President cries easily.


593 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:04 AM PST by jaycee
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To: Rutles4Ever
Rumsfeld has been trying to resign for at least a couple years. Maybe Rumsfeld wanted out.

That's what I think.

594 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:13 AM PST by CheneyChick (Another College Educated OEF Veteran for President Bush...)
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To: KsSunflower
They cannot put themselves in a position where they are blamed for terror attacks, losing the war, etc.

Just watch. Remember DJIA 12,000 and 4.4% unemployment. Anyway, they didn't put themselves in this position, the voting public did.

595 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:13 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: LadyBuzz
I'm in shock everybody... what the hell is going on today?

Did Bush just say up on the podium: "What do you think, I'm nuts?"

596 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:15 AM PST by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: Abigail Adams
Have you been keeping up with current events? After Jan., the new dnc congress won't send a dime to the troops.
597 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:16 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: mutley
It's like something much more than just the elections has him rattled to the core.

Yeah. Something caused this. I wonder what he and Pelosi really talked about.

598 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:44 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: nutmeg

Yes he did.


599 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:47 AM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: LadyBuzz

What's going on is that the President is in shock, he's only lost once in his life and he's digging this hole by capitulating to his enemies rather then finally taking off the gloves and dumping the new tone.


600 posted on 11/08/2006 10:27:52 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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