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Study: Fat, boozing mice stay healthy
CNN ^ | November 1, 2006

Posted on 11/01/2006 4:56:27 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: sierrahome

LOL!


21 posted on 11/01/2006 5:15:31 PM PST by SIDENET (Is it too early for flapjacks?)
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To: Lorianne

Excuse me while I get some cheese.


22 posted on 11/01/2006 5:17:07 PM PST by billhilly
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To: Lorianne

Shouldn't a glass of Merlot be offered with this thread?


23 posted on 11/01/2006 5:17:16 PM PST by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: Lorianne

The question the article doesn't answer is, how much of this stuff do the humans have to take? Saying "the equivalent of a hundred bottles of red wine" isn't very specific. I'm looking for a specific number of milligrams. The pills usually available have about 25 mg per pill and I'm betting that's nowhere near enough.


24 posted on 11/01/2006 5:17:30 PM PST by Fairview
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To: Lorianne

National Institute of Aging shows that heavy doses of red wine extract lowers the rate of diabetes, liver problems and other fat-related ill effects

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What about skinny-related ill effects? Men in my family get high blood pressure/cholesterol while being skinny.

What can skinny people do to get healthier arteries?


25 posted on 11/01/2006 5:20:14 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Lorianne
I've never understood why the scientific community continues to test these theories on lower life forms.

I'm available.

Call me.

26 posted on 11/01/2006 5:21:59 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: Lorianne

How lovely for the mice. Studies on humans for the past several decades have already shown that fat and booze are a lethal combination for humans!!

Any volunteers out there for a mouse conversion?

Anyone??


27 posted on 11/01/2006 5:27:53 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: mamelukesabre
What can skinny people do to get healthier arteries?

Do eat: Garlic, olive oil, vegetables, and drink in moderation, especially red wine. Also take 1 low dose childrens aspirin a day.

Don't: Smoke, eat anything with hydrogenated anything in it, eat margarine instead of real butter.
28 posted on 11/01/2006 5:28:05 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Lorianne
Grapeseed Extract

Resveratrol
29 posted on 11/01/2006 5:41:13 PM PST by Ragnar54
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To: Lorianne

"Score one for science! Woohoo!"

30 posted on 11/01/2006 5:41:57 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Lorianne
Study: Fat, boozing mice stay healthy

I'm quite amazed.


31 posted on 11/01/2006 5:52:39 PM PST by jdm
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To: RichInOC

A headache and heart palpitations!


32 posted on 11/01/2006 5:57:48 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: Lorianne

Like in the Willy Nelson song, "There are more old drunks than there are old doctors so I guess we better have another round."


33 posted on 11/01/2006 6:18:50 PM PST by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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To: Tailback

I do all that except drink in moderation.

That last part about butter...are you saying Don't eat margarine instead of butter? or Do eat margarine instead of butter?

Not that it matters to me since I rarely eat either one. I don't like margarine, and butter aggravates my heartburn.


btw, how do you know all this?


34 posted on 11/01/2006 6:44:55 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Ragnar54
I buy Grape Seed Extract 300 caplets (100mg) at Sam's Club. It's their brand, Members Mark.

sw

35 posted on 11/01/2006 7:00:27 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: mamelukesabre

I meant don't eat margarine instead of butter thinking that it's better for you. I realized after I posted that the wording was misleading.

Margarine is usually made from hydrogenated vegetable oils which the body can't process correctly. Hydrogenated fats end up as bad cholesterol. Olive oil and some other oils are easily processed by the body and a smaller amount proportionally end up as the bad chol. There are lots of studies that have shown the good benefits of olive oil compared to the bad stuff from hydrogenated oils.

After I stopped drinking soda and other drinks filled with sugar and corn syrup I rarely have heartburn. I used to carry Tums in my lunchpail but now I drink black coffee or with a little milk and still get the caffeine but no heartburn.

My Dad's doctor asked him when he was 65 whether he drank because even though he smoked his blood pressure was only slightly over normal and his cholesterol levels were excellent. When my Dad said yes he drinks a couple beers every day, the doctor (who's been in practice about 25 years) said that in his experience, most patients with similar good BP and chol. levels at that age were moderate drinkers. There's been plenty of studies that echo that doctor's opinion.

Garlic and aspirin are both blood thinners. People with very slight high blood pressure are usually told by doctors to try children's aspirin one a day before going to the more potent stuff.

Nicotein is a vasoconstrictor which ups your blood pressure and makes it easier for something to block those blood vessels.

If you did all of the things I suggested it should help but then you might run into genetics. Some families are just predisposed toward heart problems.


36 posted on 11/01/2006 7:14:30 PM PST by Tailback
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