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We're nearly all Celts under the skin [In Great Britain]
The Scotsman ^
| September 21, 2006
| IAN JOHNSTON
Posted on 09/23/2006 10:33:58 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Don't forget these Celts way over in China:
Tocharians
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posted on
09/23/2006 1:51:38 PM PDT
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blam
To: Torie
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09/23/2006 1:55:05 PM PDT
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blam
To: Panzerfaust
Britons are Celts descended from Spanish tribes Basil Fawlty will be devastated.
To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.
Genetic Survey Reveals Hidden Celts Of England
"THE Celts of Scotland and Wales are not as unique as some of them like to think. New research has revealed that the majority of Britons living in the south of England share the same DNA as their Celtic counterparts."
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posted on
09/23/2006 1:57:57 PM PDT
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blam
To: blam
To be or not to be. Am I Frisian, or am I Celt. That is the question. By the way, Frisians seem to have a monopoly on the cow milk industry in Southern California, and have had, since rocks cooled. Of course, that means a lot of them are very rich indeed now, as their land converts to big box uses.
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posted on
09/23/2006 2:19:57 PM PDT
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Torie
To: jwalsh07
We may be cousins, John. Who knew?
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posted on
09/23/2006 2:21:00 PM PDT
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Torie
To: Panzerfaust
One of the single greatest and best written scenes in film history!
To: ccmay
"Of all the Germanic languages, Frisian is the one that is most similar to English. English speakers can often understand simple Frisian sentences, and they ours." My mother (Bless her soul) used to pronounce hair as 'haar'. The Old English and High German word for hair is haar. Imagine that.
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posted on
09/23/2006 2:28:21 PM PDT
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blam
To: Panzerfaust
LOL. What movie was that from? Was Arthur some Islamist fundamentalist? I hear echoes. :)
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posted on
09/23/2006 2:29:52 PM PDT
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Torie
To: Torie
a research team at Oxford University has found the majority of Britons are Celts descended from Spanish tribes who began arriving about 7,000 years ago. Interesting. Spanish tribes moved north and settled Great Britan 7000 years ago.
Skip forward 7000 years and Spanish tribes are still moving north - this time across the American border.
It's deja vu all over again... :D
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posted on
09/23/2006 2:36:19 PM PDT
by
CaptainCanada
(Assalamu Alaykum - may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits...)
To: blam; ccmay
Savour the Frisian
sound. You can pick up the word "winters."
More Frisian stuff is available here, including what was being chatted about in the audio:
[During The War [WWII], there were some very cold winters, the sea froze and ice floes were pushed over the levee - a beautiful sight that I've not seen again.]
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posted on
09/23/2006 2:38:59 PM PDT
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Torie
To: zot
Anglo Saxons were rather thicker on the ground in East Anglica than most places in Great Britain, although apparently, even a minority there, when it comes to DNA. In fact, the place got a lot of Dutch immigrants, who knew how to drain the swamps and build levees, and make the land more productive; in fact they turned it into the bread basket of Britain. It was also the cradle of the Cromwellian rebellion, and of the Puritan immigrants to Massachusetts. My surname is most heavily found in far up northeast England, which is also a heavily Celt DNA zone, the Viking rapist invasions in that vicinity to the contrary notwithstanding it seems. Maybe the Viking invaders in that region were gay.
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09/23/2006 2:54:07 PM PDT
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Torie
To: Cogadh na Sith
Galicia in Spain, Galatia in turkey and Gaul (france) share similar place names because Celts got around a lot. I remember reading somewhere about a Irish anthropologist who shared this view of interrelatedness. He claims that you could take a Celtic folk song and hum it to a indian, and they could tell you how the next passage should go.
CC
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posted on
09/23/2006 2:55:18 PM PDT
by
Celtic Conservative
("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
To: Torie
" In fact, the place got a lot of Dutch immigrants, who knew how to drain the swamps and build levees, and make the land more productive; in fact they turned it into the bread basket of Britain." When did the Dutch come?
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posted on
09/23/2006 3:04:00 PM PDT
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blam
To: blam
In the late 16th and first half of the 17th century mostly.
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posted on
09/23/2006 3:08:44 PM PDT
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Torie
To: blam
I should add, that the Cromwell regions (East Anglica running down to London and environs, and a rather narrow swatch running up to the shipping area around Liverpool, tended to be much more economically advanced and literate than the Royalist zones. By the 1640's, the Cromwell regions were rather big into textile manufacture.
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09/23/2006 3:12:21 PM PDT
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Torie
To: Panzerfaust
(Prince) Madoc In America"We know that "King Arthur" was, in fact, two people, which clears up the confusion of Polydore Vergil, historian at the Court of Henry VIII, relating to how "King Arthur" could defeat the Romans and also the Angles, the Saxons and others. "Arthur" would have been 250 years old. We know now, thanks to our King Arthur Research Project, that Arthur I was son of Magnus Maximus and led the British armies into Gaul in 383, defeated the Romans at Sassy-Soissons and chased the Roman Emperor Gratian to Lyons, where he executed him."
"Arthur II, son of King Meurig, and a sixth generation direct male descendant of Arthur I, is the Sixth Century Arthur of legend....."
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posted on
09/23/2006 3:13:06 PM PDT
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blam
To: CarrotAndStick
Cymru am bydd!
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posted on
09/23/2006 3:15:06 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: mtbopfuyn
My maiden name is connected to the Orkney islands in ancient times so I may be a Viking too. Hi there cuz!
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posted on
09/23/2006 4:02:24 PM PDT
by
Ditter
To: Torie
We may be cousins, John.I'm OK with that, every family has it's moderate near atheist in the attic. :-}
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09/23/2006 4:32:34 PM PDT
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jwalsh07
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