Posted on 09/04/2006 8:33:37 PM PDT by Scarchin
Bible scholars claim to have fixed the bug in their decoding that caused their earlier mistaken predictions. As a result they have so many different scriptural calculations leading to the same month for the UN bomb, that "coincidence is no longer an option" for their research team.
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Bozos. Once again, they will have to explain themselves. Maybe they should crack open a bible which will tell them 'no one knows the day or hour.' Might save them some red faces.
Really. Good target, but nucular material travels.
Of course begging the question whether any Bible code gives any month or any information at all.
Okay. So after I sell out of anti-radiation pills, where's the best place to watch it from?
Well that settles that.
And they may cut you off in traffic, but won't cut you off in the head.
+< }B^)
No great loss.
It is called chaos my child. The Grand Mahdi cannot appear without chaos.
7th Day Adventists have been in this business for years.
Don't you know it is a Zionist plot like the WTC! It will be perpetuated by the Bush administration to start a war with Iran and bring about Armageddon.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
Other predictions from this group:
We are publishing this article because we are on the brink of war and if the prophecy comes true, they will claim that the rest of their findings are true. Their understanding of the Bible is not based on truth. They believe in the unbiblical 'Big Bang' theory and draw other erroneous conclusions.
LORD'S WITNESSES SCHOLARS PREDICT MAJOR WAR AND FAMINE IN 2001
-- UN to Take Over Rulership of the World Between March 26th and April 24th 2001
-- Major War in the Next 4 Months (Presumed Nuclear)
-- No One Can Buy or Sell Anything Without UN Authority After May 2001.
This is 666 Months of the Biblical Lunar Calendar After the UN Came Into Existence Officially on 24th October 1945
-- Worldwide Famine to Start in August/September 2001
LONDON, Dec. 14 /PRNewswire/ -- The following press release was issued today by the Lord's Witnesses:
These are four prophecies resulting from the bible decoding work of the Lord's Witnesses. The Witnesses are informing the press of these prophetic interpretations at this time so that if they prove to be correct then everyone will know that they have correctly decoded the bible, in this respect at the least. If, on the other hand, they prove to be incorrect then everyone will know that they have not correctly decoded the bible. They are putting their reputation on the line. They are nailing their colours to the mast.
The Lord's Witnesses have discovered what they believe to be the true symbolic code of the bible. This bible code works in both the old and new testaments. It has no relation to the Equidistant Hebrew Letter Sequence Code of the New York Times bestselling book 'The Bible Code', which they believe is not the true bible code, because it gives no information about how to run a Christian Church or how God's children should behave, which is what you would expect from a bible code since such information is for the most part the literal content of the new and old testaments of the bible respectively.
The Lord's Witnesses are a new Christian religion and are registered as a non-profit making organisation limited by guarantee. The founder Members are Gordon Ritchie (43) and Tony Moore (54). Ritchie was a mathematics Scholar at Magdalene College Cambridge, where he won the college Mathematics Prize. He graduated with a single first in Mathematics and Natural Sciences. Ritchie and Moore started decoding the bible in early 1992. The Lord's Witnesses began holding public meetings in London on March 21st, 2000. The book the True Bible Code was first published by the Lord's Witnesses in October 2000.
The book 'The True Bible Code' published by the Lord's Witnesses, deduces the existence and structure of the symbolic code of the bible. For example, Jesus spoke entirely in illustrations, he spoke in a symbolic code. The Lord's Witnesses believe and have 'proved' in their book, that the whole bible is written in the same way that Jesus spoke. That is, it is written in an illustrative or symbolic code.
This code reveals the 4 prophecies above and also reveals that the new covenant celebrated in most Christian churches, the beneficiaries of which go to heaven as angels, has now ended, and that a second new covenant, the beneficiaries of which survive Armageddon on earth as humans or if they die before Armageddon are resurrected back to the earth after Armageddon, has now been made.
The Code also reveals precisely how this new church of this second new covenant should be run. The Lord's Witnesses believe that they are this new church.
The Lord's Witnesses have used this code to work out the precise year of the Big Bang as being some 11.5 billion years ago, (which is in agreement with modern astrophysics) measured on the assumption that the speed of light has not changed. But, in fact, the application of this code to Genesis Chapter 1 reveals that the speed of light has changed several times since the Big Bang. A discovery which is again in harmony with recent astrophysical models of the unviserse. They have discovered the entire Chronology of most of the events in the bible up to and including and beyond the date of Armageddon which they have deduced is a 150 day long War between God and the wicked amongst humans, which starts on March 23rd 2008 (Nisan 16th 2008 in the Biblical Lunar Calendar, which is the oldest calendar of Mankind still used by the Egyptians until 800 BC). They have deduced that 25% of mankind survives this war and 75% does not.
They have gone further to calculate the whole timetable of the resurrection of the those who have died since Adam was born, i.e. over the last 6,000 years. These ones are resurrected into the Kingdom of God, which is stated as lasting for 1,000 years in the bible book of Revelation. They have this period as running from 2008 to 3008 AD. This resurrection will proceed, they propose from last to first, in the sense that those who die last are resurrected first. So the first ones to be resurrected into the Kingdom of God on earth will be those who died immediately before Armageddon. Then the generation before them will be resurrected and then the generation before them etc. In this way 'those last will be first and the first last', as the good book says. A son will welcome his father into the new system.
They have also reconciled millions of years of human fossils with Genesis chapter 1, by deducing from the true bible code that Adam was introduced by God into a world already populated by pre-adamic humans who had been created by God around 2.4 million years earlier as the fossil record shows and developed with God's help since then.
Their understanding is that Adam was originally kept separate from the rest of humanity in the Garden of Eden, until he sinned, at which point he was evicted from the Garden along with Eve and they then joined the rest of us.
The book, 'The True Bible Code' is available free from the Lord's Witnesses, P.O. Box 1AL, London W1 1AL, England. The entire book is published free on the web at www.truebiblecode.com. [SOURCE: Lord's Witnesses - London England - 12/14/2000 http://www.prnewswire.com]
http://www.cephasministry.com/lords_witnesses.html
Silly.
Silly left town a while ago. This is insane.
Goofy is still in Orlando, thoigh.
The Muslim nuts run the asylum.
In keeping with the FR policy of not advocating violence, I hope the UN is not hit with a nuclear bomb. However, I would be in favor of global warming melting the UN with all its attendant communists inside.
Agreed.
In discussing the "war" with the Islamofacist world with my 12 Yr old son, I am constantly telling him to take a step back and look at the spiritual side of all the things going on in this planet. How each and every political decision that is made could possibly fit in the plans of an/the anti-christ or at the very least, a one world government leader.
My reason for doing so is that time is short and our jobs need to be focused on the Great Commission. We can do nothing about pre-ordained movements of God to bring about the New Jerusalem. All we can do is what He told us to do.
And learn how to pull the trigger.
If followed it would settle that. But if not followed, amongst other disobediences, Deuteronomy 28:15-68 comes in to play.
I'd settle for just closing the damn thing down and shipping those feckless idiots to a new UN building in Antartica.
Leave it to the Internet MSM to call Bible code theorists "Bible scholars."
Every once in a while I catch on the History Channel, Discovery Channel, or some other "education channel" their take on Bible prophesy or events of the Judeo-Christian history. They always have that one "expert" that looks like Spocks father giving his blantantly wrong opinion. I can't remember if he's from Harvard or Notre Dame or somewhere else.
But it always amazes me that they never interview real Biblical scholers like Erwin Lutzer, David Cook, John MacArthur Jr., Charles Stanley, Chuck Swindol, or at least anyone in the theology dept. at Dallas Theological Seminary.
Am torn by the doc at:
I find it a very difficult to read mass of text that is most unappealing and bothersome to even give a minute to. So,I have not waded through the whole doc.
IF ANYONE HAS A GOOD BRIEF FEW LINE SUMMARY OF EACH OF THE SPECIFIC BIBLE CODES SUPPOSEDLY DERIVED, I'D BE HAPPY TO CONSIDER THEM.
The calculations SOUND impressive.
But until I can analyze the codes in terms of length and how they were derived, then I will have to consider them, at least potentially, as totally worthless.
There are LOTS of Bible Code researchers who have not the mentality nor training to soundly search for and evaluate codes with the rigor and solid criteria of the current state of the art and science that is the Bible Codes research phenomenon. And a lot of their pontifications are utterly worthless.
That doesn't touch the validity of AUTHENTIC CODES at all. But it sure muddies the water.
No numerology is involved.
Consulting a dictionary would have made that abundantly clear if one knew anything about the authentic codes at all.
In discussing the "war" with the Islamofacist world with my 12 Yr old son, I am constantly telling him to take a step back and look at the spiritual side of all the things going on in this planet. How each and every political decision that is made could possibly fit in the plans of an/the anti-christ or at the very least, a one world government leader.
My reason for doing so is that time is short and our jobs need to be focused on the Great Commission. We can do nothing about pre-ordained movements of God to bring about the New Jerusalem. All we can do is what He told us to do.
And learn how to pull the trigger.
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EXCELLENT.
I believe every believing parent should be doing accordingly.
I'd settle for just closing the damn thing down and shipping those feckless idiots to a new UN building in Antartica.
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Antartica is a bit close. Jupiter might do.
But much more fitting would be URANUS.
to call Bible code theorists "Bible scholars."
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Some are.
The scholars at BIBLECODEDIGEST.COM
are exceedingly well qualified and well published scholars.
And, some of their codes research is solidly published in peer reviewed professional journals.
While their detractors in the profession have been caught in dishonest skullduggery and very schlocky research indeed.
Bias in quadruplicate does not automatically equal scholarship.
Some on your list are objective and can let The Bible Speak whatever The Bible will speak. Others are so blinded by their own vain imaginings and private interpretations that there's little hope in them saying anything Biblically accurate or useful on at least SOME topics such as END TIMES PROPHECIES and PENTECOSTALISM etc.
We'll see whether a comet or asteroid comes careening to Earth in 2012. Maybe also the original subject, here.
It just strikes me that you could find alot of false positive "patterns" in an alphabet without vowels.
Actually, the Hebrew scholars insist that's not true. And, with the BibleCodeDigest.com folks and their connected scholars and sites around the world, that has proven the case. There are relatively few options for possible meanings and the BCD folks always or virtually always list all the plausible ones--and if and why they think one is more plausible than the rest.
I'm not the Hebrew scholar. But that issue has been quite sufficiently laid to rest for me by several folks who are.
Yes, that's true.
Romans, chapter one, tells us that those who abandon knowledge of God are given over to degenerate thinking.
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. (Prov 1:7)
To fear the Lord is to hate evil. (Prov 8:13)
I agree! And on or before the 23rd of Sept? I believe that's Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. So aren't these guys the equivalent of the tabloids that come out before the end of the calendar year, with their New Year's doomsday 'predictions'? Hmmmmm...
You must have made a calculations error - my secret message came out as:
" Drink MORE Ovaltine - Fa-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra".
Coincidentally, the House of Yahweh in Abaline Texas predicts a nuclear war is going to start September 12, 2006. At least that gives us a few days to get some supplies.
http://www.yahweh.com/
Interesting link.
What do I know.
Just still seriously doubt that it will be that soon.
But I also still feel some serious press to prepare for such when it comes. Have done some prep.
Would still prefer a buried shelter.
Well, I hope you're right. It seems like this has to go down sometime. The support we've had from most of Europe so far in this war on terror has been disappointing. (Poland and England excluded.) Now that 9-11 is the Islamic-Fascist holiday for killing Americans, it wouldn't surprise me if the tried something big this year.
Wouldn't greatly surprise me either.
And, I guess there are a number of supposedly prophetic voices sounding various sorts of alarms.
I just personally don't have the kind of heightened alert in my spirit I'd expect if such were coming 12th Sep.
I suppose my spiritual ears could be full of wax but I've done my more or less best to keep them clear! LOL.
I have long felt a press to prepare for what's clearly coming eventually and maybe sooner than later. Just have felt in recent months, years that it might not be as soon as I'd long thought.
We shall see.
Certainly walking close to God is the only safe place.
HMMM ... JUST HMMM.
THX.
Quix, you said:
I'm not the Hebrew scholar. But that issue has been quite sufficiently laid to rest for me by several folks who are.
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Here's an article from NewsBlaze.com (http://newsblaze.com/story/2006060109150100001.ew/topstory.html) about the person(s) apparently having to do with this. They aren't using Hebrew skipcode, the common "Bible code" that people are dabbling with. They are associated with "Jehovah's Witnesses" and apply another concoction:
Bible Scholars From The Lords' Witnesses Predict An 85 Percent Probability Of A Nuclear Terrorist Attack On The U.N. Plaza In Manhattan On June 9 Or 10
LONDON (EWORLDWIRE) Jun 1, 2006
These dates are deduced from the symbolic code of Jesus’ parables and Daniel’s visions and Joseph’s dream interpretations. A Bible research group called the Lords’ Witnesses puts forth that it has deciphered the true symbolic bible code which applies to both the Old and New Testaments. The group has found that all Bible accounts obey certain grammatical rules. In particular, the number of nouns which act as nouns in every Bible account is divisible by the number of meanings that the account has, and the number of distinct nouns acting as nouns or possessive noun chains (which contain a noun acting as a noun and other nouns acting as possessive adjectives) in each account is likewise divisible by the number of meanings of that account. Every Bible account has encoded within it the number of extra symbolic meanings that the account has. Some Bible accounts have no extra symbolic meanings; others have as many as six extra symbolic meanings.
The two noun counting rules which they believe every Bible account obeys for the first 227 little Bible stories in the four Gospels of the New Testament have been verified and found to be true in each case. The results have been presented in a paper and in the form of two lectures on DVDs to 200 academic statisticians around the world - no one thus far has been able to disprove the group's findings. For more on this, see www.truebiblecode.com/understanding49.html.
Although the work of Lord's Witnesses is not a New York Times best-seller like the Hebrew Letter Skip code of Michael Drosnin, and it is not a commercially successful fiction like the Da Vinci Code of Dan Brown, it does reveal accurately how the last true Christian church should be run, which is what might one expect from a true Bible code. It also reveals that Armageddon begins on March 23, 2008 and ends August 20, 2008. It reveals that Jesus comes down to Earth to sort out the sheep from the goats on 5 or 6 May, 2008 during Armageddon, at the end of the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12 and that the faithful sheep are raptured to be angels on 6 or 7 June, 2008 - the post tribulation rapture. After that things get really bad, and humans succeed in destroying themselves fully by August 20, 2008.
This destruction occurs because technology has overtaken morality. The purpose of Armageddon is to teach once and for all that if humans do not obey a simple set of moral laws, destruction will result - some people understand this without needing to see global genocide, but many more cannot. It is a lesson that most people do need. The sad Biblical truth is that the only way to teach the majority of free-willed rational beings that God’s commandments are simply the minimum set of laws necessary to prevent a society from destroying itself, is to give them those laws, permit them to break them and then let them destroy themselves. The sheep, the minority who do not need this lesson, are raptured in advance of the genocide and watch it all from God’s IMAX cinema in the sky as it were. For more on this see www.biblecodeintro.com.
The true Bible code reveals the true nature of Hell and the unceasing and everlasting love that God has for every person whom he ever created - the wicked and the good alike. It reveals that there will be seven terrorist nuclear bombs before Armageddon, which is the final man-made nuclear holocaust. The first of these bombs will hit the U.N. plaza in Manhattan between sundown on Friday, June 9 and sundown on Saturday, June 10, 2006. Bible Scholars have two independent scriptural interpretations which give the same date for this attack: the attack must occur on a Sabbath according to one of the interpretations, while the other interpretation also puts the event to occur on a Sabbath. The chances of this happening by accident are obviously one in seven. The chances of this not being an accident and therefore being a correct date at the least are six in seven, or 85 percent.
For a simple explanation starting from the basics and ending with a nuclear bomb in at the U.N. in midtown Manhattan during the second weekend in June, 2006, see www.truebiblecode.com/nyc.html.
The Lords’ Witnesses urges those in New York City of any religious or anti-religious persuasion whatsoever, who have faith that God can predict the future, to leave the city before the second weekend in June and read all about the group's great biblical understandings from some other place or at some time after that weekend.
For more information, visit www.lordswitnesses.com or www.truebiblecode.com.
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Thanks much.
I had some underlying feeling and unease that that whole SCHTICK was CULTISH
and I warily didn't really want anything to do with it.
It's still a curious bunch of stuff but not something I feel any need to deal with.
Much appreciate your insights and clue-in.
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