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Army dismisses gay soldier 'outed' by e-mail
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| 7/27/6
| DUNCAN MANSFIELD
Posted on 07/27/2006 7:39:00 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: Retired Army Special Forces
HIV is not only a Gay disease. This same scenario could happen with any one of the 10 people being out that day due to medical reasons. One of the guys could have been out getting tested for the clap, for crabs,or for any number of other medical reasons or just other reasons in general.
There is no reason why any person who is physically and mentally fit should be allowed to defend and serve Thieu country if they choose to. I much rather have them standing next to me defending the country then some code pinko or other leftist who was forced to be there.
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:27:26 AM PDT
by
FloridianBushFan
(I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Katherine Harris for Senate)
To: Red Badger
Good order and discipline? Obviously you've never had to direct a Broadway Musical..........and neither have I.........
Your comment makes absolutely not sense. What are you talking about?
To: jjm2111
"They kick you out for HIV anyway"
Sorry to disagree, but that is a false statement. You can look up the regulations if you choose to differ. By law, the military cannot kick anyone out for HIV alone as long as the person had not been declared to have AIDS by a competent medical authority.
To: jjm2111
They dont kick you out for HIV. There are restrictions to service though.
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:30:35 AM PDT
by
TheGunny
(Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
To: Retired Army Special Forces
You are exactily right...I served for years with an HIV pos kid. A restriction placed on him that I know of, was that he couldnt apply to officer programs (why he would want to do that is beyond me anyhow..kidding)
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:32:43 AM PDT
by
TheGunny
(Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
To: Lucky Dog
Removing someone with this type of training because of their sexual preference is "weakening" our military. Keeping gays out of the military is "weakening" our military.
I'm sorry you missed the logic in that...la
To: CT-Freeper
One of the ways the wimpbutts who signed up to get pay and benefits but won'T actually fight get out of it is to claim being gay.
They even have liberal terror sympathisers who will claim to be their "friends"
I say okay and then if you claim this you are forever forbidden from getting married heterosexually.
To: FloridianBushFan
"They are not going to be in the shower coming on to everyone in there. Majority of military shows are individual stalls."
Would you advocate coed shower facilities? How about coed rooms in the barracks?
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:34:49 AM PDT
by
CSM
("Most men's inappropriate thoughts end as soon as the girl talks..." - Dinsdale, 5/30/06)
To: SmithL
Copas says he never admitted being gayIf this is true, then he certainly shouldn't have been dismissed for being gay. However, it seems he has now made a rather public statement that he is gay, so I have to wonder.
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:35:58 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: CSM
People in the military are expected to be professionals and have enough discipline to prevent problems that might arise in that type of scenario.
So to answer your question, yes, co-ed living quarters should be authorized...la
To: Paradox
"if he is an Arab language specialist, and we supposedly have a hard time coming up with such people, maybe we coulda made an exception for him?"
That's what I don't get... It sounds like if he could've been relegated to a desk job or something he might still be of great service and use to our country. I mean I understand how this could probably cause problems in the field, but surely in an office setting it can't be that much different than in the civilian sector - could it?
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:37:49 AM PDT
by
LibertyRocks
(MY BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
To: FloridianBushFan
"This same scenario could happen with any one of the 10 people being out that day due to medical reasons. One of the guys could have been out getting tested for the clap, for crabs,or for any number of other medical reasons or just other reasons in general."
That is my point, exactly. The fact that the guy is not there that day does not matter for what reason - it could be any reason - therefore the argument is a red herring and irrelevant.
The bottom line is the militant homosexual agenda behind opening the military floodgates to gays. I served for too damn long to see the Left totally destroy the military instead of only partially screwing it up as they have to this point.
I don't have a problem with DADT and that line needs to be held aggressively and fought tooth and nail to not allow the Left to cross that line. Play by our rules or take a hike. It's about the entire Hate America, Hate Conservative Values, Leftist agenda that is behind the push for open homosexuals in the military.
To: SmithL
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:38:13 AM PDT
by
dcnd9
To: Retired Army Special Forces
We were defeated by ONE vote to amend the constitution defining marriage as between a man and woman.
Er, no. Cloture failed 49-48, which it needed 60 votes for. It needed 67 votes in the Senate. It was nowhere near one vote.
And guess what you whiny Left Wing Homosexual radicals? You brought it on yourselves by your own oh-so-friggin-predictiable behavior.
I'm sorry, are you addressing someone at this site?
Has anyone seen the South Park episode where "Mr. Garrison" does a bunch of degenerate gerbil stuffing with "Mr. Slave" in front of the school kids in the classroom? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Slave
Uh....South Park is a cartoon. It's not a documentary. It's not real - it's fiction.
What is with the doomsday hysterics on FR lately? This is the second way over the top "ohmigodit'stheendoftheworld" message today I've had to respond too. Anyone? Bueller?
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:39:01 AM PDT
by
mjwise
To: Lucky Dog
Imagine having to get several dozen flamingly gay dancers and singers all in one spot, in proper costume, at the right time, performing incredibly complicated dance and song routines , without any cat fights or hissy fits amongst them and with you. Co-Ordinate the on stage activities with the gay orchestra and the backstage set crews. Execute the whole thing in front of an audience of several hundred extermely wealthy gay people who paid outrageous prices for tickets to see your show and critics who are just waiting to tear it apart in tomorrow's papers............
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:39:59 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Is Castro dead yet?........)
To: Joan Kerrey
You have 10 interpreters for the 10 documents but one is gay.If he doesn't go around telling people he's gay, he won't get dismissed.
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:41:55 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: Retired Army Special Forces
I never once stated America needs to be like other countries. The other poster stated that it wouldn't work having straights and gays in the military together. That basically the military would no longer be able to function.
My statement was to say if that is true then why are all these other countries still operating quite well with gays in the military. One of them being Israel who has one of the best militaries in the world and are currently fighting a war on two fronts. There has been gays in the US military for a long time and we are still operating just fine.
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:43:34 AM PDT
by
FloridianBushFan
(I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Katherine Harris for Senate)
To: garyhope
Don't we need Arabic language specialists at this time?
You're dang right we do. This sounds like junior high school level retribution.
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:45:11 AM PDT
by
Liberty Valance
(Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
To: ops33
it actually reads "homosexuality"...I don't have a dog in the hunt over whether or not homosexuals should be allowed to serve in the Armed Services; my opinion is that as long as you do your job and don't interfer with the conduct or completion of the mission then I don't care what orientation you are... but the regulation is clear...if you're "caught", you've enlisted under fraudulent circumstances and you're gone...
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:46:53 AM PDT
by
nicko
(CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- Major, you're on your own.)
To: TheSuaveOne
I can't imagine the state of the military if you were to set the policies. To think it is reasonable to have coed facilities for 18 year old hormonaly active people is insane. I have experienced the soldier's lifestyle and I know it would cause major problems.
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posted on
07/27/2006 10:47:09 AM PDT
by
CSM
("Most men's inappropriate thoughts end as soon as the girl talks..." - Dinsdale, 5/30/06)
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