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Rudy for president?
Townhall.com ^ | 7/8/06 | Robert Novak

Posted on 07/08/2006 8:12:30 AM PDT by mathprof

Well-connected public figures report that they have been told recently by Rudolph Giuliani that, as of now, he intends to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.

The former mayor of New York was on top of last month's national Gallup poll measuring presidential preferences by registered Republicans, with 29 percent. Sen. John McCain's 24 percent was second, with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich third at 8 percent. National polls all year have shown Giuliani running either first or second to McCain, with the rest of the presidential possibilities far behind.

Republican insiders respond to these numbers by saying rank-and-file GOP voters will abandon Giuliani once they realize his position on abortion, gay rights and gun control. Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; demslovehim; electionpresident; friendofharding; friendofkerick; giuliani; giuliani2008; giuliani4dogcatcher; novak; rino
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To: marajade

I wasn't meaning to be rude ;). -reguards

--Jeremy


381 posted on 07/08/2006 4:23:53 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: mathprof
Rudy Guiliani is by far the best man to continue the war on terror. In my opinion, he would have done a much better job than W with the war on Iraq.

Rudy is an inspiring speaker, right from the heart and there's no B.S.

382 posted on 07/08/2006 4:44:55 PM PDT by motife
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Rudy would make a great Attorney General.


383 posted on 07/08/2006 4:46:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Reagan Man

To split hairs: I think Nixon nominated Renquist for Justice. Reagan nominated him for Chief Justice.

Also, I think BOTH Roberts and Alito were stellar appointments. We dodged a bullet with Meirs, though.


384 posted on 07/08/2006 5:08:40 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: no dems
All of these poll numbers will change once Condi Rice throws her hat in the ring.

Let's hope.  I doubt it seriously, though. 

385 posted on 07/08/2006 5:14:01 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: jla
Thanks for the informative posts.

Those quotes by Rudy Giuliani published by the NYObserver show what a political liberal he is and what a complete and utter jerkface he can really be in public. Giuliani isn't the type of politico that conservative Republicans should be backing for POTUS in 2008.

The GOP has many conservative choices available that would make solid candidates for the GOP nomination in 2008. FReepers shouldn't be selling out their conservative principles to see a liberal become POTUS.

386 posted on 07/08/2006 5:15:13 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: mathprof
Reagan did nominate Reinquist for CJ. A good conservative choice. Filled that seat with another good conservative, Antonin Scalia.

Way way too early to offer a judgment on Bush`s picks of Alito or Roberts. History tells us so. Don't jump the shark. ;^)

387 posted on 07/08/2006 5:24:11 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: conservative blonde

Tell it like it is!

I'm tired of all this coalition building and compassionate conservatism. I'm tired of seeing stories in the local paper like how a nine passenger van has a blowout on the highway, flips and 17 illegal Mexicans go to the ER with serious injuries while the driver flees.......

I could go on a while.....


388 posted on 07/08/2006 5:24:12 PM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: marajade

Uh, no not relaly. Bush won Virginia by 52%, and no most dems are not republicans in that state. Get your facts straight.


389 posted on 07/08/2006 5:41:00 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: marajade

The only reason your upset about those comments is b/c they will sink rudy in the primary


390 posted on 07/08/2006 5:41:49 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

The only reason you're upset is because I think Allen is a dork.


391 posted on 07/08/2006 5:43:16 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Sabramerican

Calling the base the far right only shows your true moderate/liberal colors.


392 posted on 07/08/2006 5:44:11 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Sabramerican
The founders also laid out a Principle that the Supreme Court interprets the Constitution.

Whether anyone likes it, legal abortion has been the law of the land since the early 70's.

So I guess since then, you, and those who think like you, see no reason for the existence of the United States.

In your opinion, it only takes that we have a President who wishs abortion would go away and sleeps with a gun under his bed, and hates gays, that all will be well. Only under that circumstance will it worth defending the United States?

You really are a fool. The founders did not declare that the supreme court interprets the constituion and only a moderate/liberal would see it that way. It is called original intent for a reason.

393 posted on 07/08/2006 5:47:56 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

" ... the supreme court interprets the constituion...."

They are a check.


394 posted on 07/08/2006 5:51:03 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade; SDGOP; Sabramerican
I agree of course that the Founders did not envision or define the judicial branch to be supreme in interpreting the Constitution, i.e. to have absolute power to say what it means. I agree they are a check on the other branches. They decide cases.

I would definitely support Guiliani. But. His liberal positions on this or that would not bother me so much if I thought he could be counted on to continue appointing originalists.

I believe Mitt Romney also has great leadership qualities. He's sometimes slammed as a little bit false, i.e. politician-like. Who cares. He may have taken some liberal positions on this or that, but I definitely think he understands about originalism.

395 posted on 07/08/2006 5:59:34 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: marajade

" Mr. Guiliani as US Atty for the St of NY indicted mobsters and won convictions in Court. These were mobsters who had $500 an hour lawyer types. That takes debating skill. There ain't no way on God's green earth that Allen can stand up to that."

Allen may be the nicest guy in the room, but, he lacks gravitas. Many times he looks and acts like a gawky teenager .
Physical presentation cannot be discounted-Bob Dole looked old , AlGore and Kerry looked like Frankenstein wannabes and Hillary looks like a gonad chomping, she demon from hell.
If Giuliani promises to appoint strict constructionists to the USSC in the likeness of John Roberts ( Giuliani praised Roberts to the hilt ),
takes a strong position on illegal immigration ( no amnesty , secures the border, etc),
fights for lower taxes and distinguishes between what he personally believes regarding gay marriage, gun control and PBA and what the majority of Americans desire, in addition to his position on the WOT-he would be unbeatable.
Giuliani / Allen, Giuliani/ Fred Thompson/ Giuliani/ John Kyl, Giuliani/ Hayworth are all combos that I would vote for in a heartbeat.


396 posted on 07/08/2006 6:01:18 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: marajade

I'm not upset, i just think you need to get your facts straight.


397 posted on 07/08/2006 6:06:15 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: marajade

No, they are not. You need to brush up your constitutional history and read up on the federalist papers.


398 posted on 07/08/2006 6:06:55 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: mathprof

I don't care if I get flamed, but Rudy is my first choice in the primary. He charismatic and a great leader. If he gets the Republican nomination, he will smoke whoever he runs against. Just my 2 cents worth. :-)


399 posted on 07/08/2006 6:11:59 PM PDT by Gypssy (Smart, Womanly & Conversative! :-)~~~)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Lol, thats like saying if rudy changes every position he has and promises to be someone he hasn't been we'll accept him. No thanks, we'll take someone who has already proven himself.

Remember now, libs and moderates were screaming bush and reagan had no gravitas either and i think they turned out fine.


400 posted on 07/08/2006 6:18:02 PM PDT by SDGOP
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