Rudy for president?

Nobody is going to buy that, rudy has had numerous affairs and no matter how you spin it, once value voters get wind of it they will turn the other way on him.

But they will for Newt?

Rudy looks and acts like a leader. Allen just looks and acts like a dork. Rudy would make mincemeat out of Allen in a debate.

No they wouldn't vote for newt because he's worse than rudy. When he was off crucifying clinton for monica he was boinking his own intern.

Allen is not a dork and will clobber rudy in the debates. Just like he clobbered mary sue terry and chuckie robb in those debates. Rudy is a short balding egotist who will get clobbered because hes never advocated conservatism as a philosphy, just does what's convenient. Rudy supporters like you always like to convince yourself allen is goofy looking or he will get clobbered in debates, but you will be very surprised.

Lets not forget, by the time Dick Wadhams (allens chief of staff who everyone agrees is karl rove's heir) is done with Rudy, rudy will be asking himself what the hell he was thinking even bothering to run for president.

"Allen is not a dork and will clobber rudy in the debates."

You're in denial bigtime.

He's my guy.

YMMV.

The Case for Pence (PENCE IN 2008!!!)
Mike Pence for President ^ | April 27, 2006

Posted on 04/27/2006 3:55:37 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

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The Case for Pence

Mike PenceMike Pence is the personification of a Reagan Republican. Pence believes in a strong national defense, traditional moral values and limited government. For him, government is too big, Life must be protected and our border must be secured, period. No gray areas and no compromise for the sake of political expediency.

As a freshman, Congressman Pence voted against No Child Left Behind simply because “Education is not a federal function.” As a sophomore, Pence was named part of the whip team, meaning that as a part of the leadership team he would round up the votes for the leadership’s position on every bill. When the Medicare Prescription Drug bill was unveiled Pence realized that the bill would socialize medicine and redistribute wealth on a level that has never been seen in our nation’s history. Instead of doing his leadership duties, Pence led the revolt against the bill.

Because of Pence’s stand against the leadership, the bill resulted in the longest vote in the history of Congress with Pence’s band of rebels coming up short by only two votes. In the end government expanded, but Pence’s heroic efforts will always be remembered by conservatives as our Alamo as it built upon the shift toward a conservative revival.Mike Pence leading 'Operation Offset'

As Republican Study Committee Chairman, Pence immediately waged a revolt on the budget and was able to get a court point of order protection that will help limit government and hold big spenders accountable. In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, Pence led the effort to reopen the budget and cut $39 Billion of already signed into law spending under "Operation Offset."

Mike Pence is the leader of the conservative movement. In the last five years no elected official in Washington, D.C. has done more to stop our creeping socialism than Mike Pence. Pence has the experience in fighting for conservatism that no other candidate has. Time and time again Pence has been tested and each time he has stuck to his conservative principles despite long odds and intense opposition. While others speak of conservatism, Pence lets his results speak for his conservatism.

Pence leading 'Operation Offset' with Coburn, DeMint and McCain behind himMike Pence learned a valuable lesson from Reagan, that is, if you want results you have to take your case to the American people. Pence has that Reagan-like ability to communicate true conservatism in a thoughtful, articulate way that wins converts not energizes enemies.

To win the battle for the future of America, we have to make the case for freedom in the form of Reagan style conservatism on a daily basis. Mike Pence is the guy to lead our cause.

Who else is there? Among the contenders in ‘08 no one has shown leadership when it comes to conservatism. All have been timid and passive. They are either too scared to lead or they do not believe the message. Politics as usual will not do. Who among the contenders have stood up and on principle to lead like Reagan did? When asked if he saw any ‘08 candidate who could lead and carry the Reagan mantle Pence said, “Not yet. But Ronald Reagan campaigned on these things for 25 years and he won only 49 states. Three times, I might add….There are many effective voices in the conservative movement. But in terms of someone who currently is in a position of national prominence, I haven’t yet heard any of our leaders sound a clear call for limited government, a strong military, and traditional moral values. I’m listening hard. Those men and women who will enter the fray for the Republican nomination, may find their voice. But like millions of other ordinary Americans, I’m listening. And I haven’t heard the unapologetic _expression of American ideals in any of the voices on the national scene or in our party.”

Congressman Pence, we have been listening and we have heard your message. It is the same message we heard throughout Reagan’s career in public life. We need a leader who will tell the American people the truth. We need another Reagan.

Conservative icon Stephen Moore proclaims, “I think a lot of us are looking around and saying, ‘Who is the next great conservative hero? Where is the next Ronald Reagan in our Party?’….. And Mike Pence has been mentioned as someone who could fill the Gipper’s shoes.”

Pence continues to speak of Reagan’s leadership by saying, “I was always moved when Ronald Reagan – if you read his early speeches he often began his speeches in front of service organizations and business groups by saying that ‘I am going to say some hard things, and I want to warn you in advance that I am going to say them.’ Every time I heard Ronald Reagan speak …… he always, invariably brought up the indelicate matter of core values. Whatever venue he was in front of he demonstrated, maybe with just a single line, the courage of his convictions.”Pence on House Floor

“And I think that what we fail to understand is that people respect people who are candid, straightforward and respectful about precisely what they believe, and they inherently don’t respect people who use weasel words and mumbling phrases to avoid giving offense. Ronald Reagan personified the grace and the truth that is necessary for true leadership. He spoke the truth, but he spoke it with grace.”

“And he did that unapologetically. And I think to the extent that our movement rises or falls, it will be exclusively based on the clarity with which we articulate what is in the hearts of the overwhelming majority of the American people.”

“To the extent that our movement and our Party continue to shy away from speaking boldly and plainly about the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage that we do so at our peril.”…..

“I don’t have much enthusiasm for talking about being a quote “culture of life”…I tend to think that the American people long for leaders who will look them in the eye and tell them plainly that human life is sacred, that marriage is sacred and that the supreme law of this land ought to reflect those timeless truths in our society.”

“I haven’t had much patience for that timidity.”

Men and Women, lets get on with it.

Also remember rudy is short and bald.

Bald? Sure.

Short? He's 6'2"...

PENCE IN 2008!!!

Ronald Reagan ran for President from 1966-1980.

Pence, or any other first-timer, is not going to be President in 2008, or 2012 for that matter.

I'd like to see maybe a Condoleeza Rice change her mind and run or even maybe a Laura Bush. They are two potentials I could really go for!

LOl, the imdb posting is wayyy off. Have you ever seen a picture of the guy? Hes pretty short.

"I am dismayed that many Freepers would give up their basic political tenents anti-abortion, pro-gun, anti-gay etc. so easily."

I share your dismay. I think a lot of Republicans think it won't matter if a social liberal gets the party's 2008 Presidential nomination. And, if this happens, and such a candidate loses, they'll blame those of us who failed to support said candidate. So be it. If the Republican Party is so blind to the fact that they will lose a huge chunk of us social conservatives by putting forth a moderate, then it will be a hard lesson that they will learn. Fighting domestic terrorism in the womb is not something I'm willing to set aside by voting for a RINO, regardless of his stand on the War on Terror. So, if this comes to pass, yeah, I'll support a real conservative 3rd party candidate. I'm more concerned about having to answer for my actions to God on Judgment Day, than the flames I may endure from fellow Republicans that seem to eagerly endorse candidates like Guiliani. I'm already disappointed in my outgoing state senator who has taken the statewide leadership role for Pataki's campaign. He was reputed to be a hardcore conservative, but I guess maybe the price was right to cast aside conservative principles.

Allen is not a dork and will clobber rudy in the debates

Allen with the whole howdy doody cowboy thing...it's pretty dorky.

And flat footed Allen clobering Rudy or Newt or Pence in a debate is truly magical thinking.

You should try being objective for a change and try watching his 1993 debate of 2000 debate. You know if it came down to it allen would beat rudy easily on the issues alone so you attack him personally, make fun of his apperance and claim him an idiot. If you were intellectual honest, which clearly your not from your postings about rudy and your constant bashing of allen, you'd realize he is a formidable opponent and a competent debater. Cling all you want to to your pre concieved notions, but you are wrong.

Last time i checked, rudy looks like a little hermit, hes short, bald and rather ugly. He will look silly when hes standing next to 6'4 allen who most women find attractive.

The Quotable Rudolph W. Giuliani

The New York State Liberal Party on Rudy Giuliani:

Some ask, How can the Liberal Party support a candidate who disagrees with the Liberal Party position on so many gut issues? But when the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion.
--N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of R. Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

On the Republican Party:

Mr. Rockefeller represented "a tradition in the Republican Party I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Times
July 9, 1992

What kind of Republican? Is [Giuliani], for instance, a Reagan Republican? [Giuliani] pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican."

--Village Voice
January 24, 1989

On Attending 1996 Republican Convention:

Rudy even expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Page 459, Wayne Barrett

On Barry Goldwater:

He [Giuliani] described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant." Barry Goldwater was an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man."

--New York Daily News,
May 13, 1997

On President Bill Clinton:

Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, [Giuliani] told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." The Daily News quoted [Giuliani] as saying that March: "Whether you talk about President Clinton, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group."

Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, he explained: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Wayne Barrett, Page 459

Rudy Giuliani's October 1994 Endorsement of Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo:

"From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, â€˜Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo."

--Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City
Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo:

"Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state."

"But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed."

--Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement,
October 25, 1994

"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party."

--Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party,
CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights:

National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, Mayor Giuliani said yesterday.

"I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said.

The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples.

"I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country."

--New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

On Gay-Rights\Gay Rights Bill:

Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately.

"I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action."

"...It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment."

--New York Post, June 5, 1993

Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office.

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, June 30, 1993

Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal."

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, July 7, 1989

On Gay Domestic Partnership:

"I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership."

--Rudy Giuliani
Informed Sources
New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

On Abortion:

Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing.

--New York Times, June 18, 1993

"I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal.

--New York Times, August 4, 1989

On Partial Birth Abortion:

Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure.

-- New York Times, January 7, 1998

On School Choice:

"I wanted to know if he supports tuition tax credits and vouchers, which he doesn't."

--Sandra Feldman,
President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

On Taxes:

[Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering."

--Newsday, August 31, 1989

Source

Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’ 11/28/2001

According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.

Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.

The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.

According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).

— Ken Ervin

Concerned Women for America
1015 Fifteenth St. N.W., Suite 1100
Washington, D.C. 20005
Phone: (202) 488-7000
Fax: (202) 488-0806
E-mail: mail@cwfa.org

Compilation of all Rudy Giuliani has actually done to fight terrorism or foil a terrorist attack:

The End.

So one man's opinion of Newt Gingrich will formulate how you feel about him? Tom Coburn has always been at odds with Newt.

Don't forget to don the flame suit to save yourself from the rudy pimpers on here

Its not an opinion, its a detailing of newt's behavior. You shoould read it, i used to like newt a lot too until i read the book and learned more about gingrich that most people aren't aware of.