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GOP SPLIT ON ILLEGALS (House HomeSec Chair, Peter King, supports border Guard, opposes amnesty)
NY POST ^ | May 14, 2006 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 05/14/2006 10:03:18 AM PDT by Liz

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To: stephenjohnbanker

I think you hit the nail on the head with that question----that's what it amounts to.


As someone posted: the aliens want to turn America into Mexico with benefits.

Why don't they protest in Mexico about the satrap Mexican government-of-the-wealthy, and its unwillingness to provide for its citizen.?

Why do US taxpayers get stuck with subsidizing these parasites?


41 posted on 05/14/2006 4:06:56 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: newgal

Getting ready for the Fourth of July.

42 posted on 05/14/2006 4:09:43 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: The Mayor

I believe pols are hearing from constituents---that they do not want amnesty.

The anti-amnesty movement is a consensus issue that cuts across the political spectrum, encompassing all shades of political thought.


43 posted on 05/14/2006 4:12:38 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Liz
Federal troops on the border can be scaled back at anytime, especially after an election. This fence will NOT discriminate.
44 posted on 05/14/2006 4:17:19 PM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: Liz
I notice Rudy G is resoundingly silent on this.

The last I heard Giuliani was saying to go ahead and legalize them. I'd like to see him run for president on that platform.

45 posted on 05/14/2006 4:30:41 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Rudy would get smoked with that opinion.
I have lost any respect for that man.


46 posted on 05/14/2006 4:40:57 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: Buffettfan

That will serve the purpose just fine.
Who's idea is that?


47 posted on 05/14/2006 4:41:53 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: areafiftyone
Very few Legal Hispanics manage to vote, so the polls don't mean anything.

How about just doing what is right, like seeing to it our sovereignty and laws are acknowledged and followed?
48 posted on 05/14/2006 4:43:50 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Liz

Everyone I talk to Dem or Repub is against any kind of amnesty.
I am remodeling a bathroom for a couple, her mother came here from the Phillipines the legal way. She is against amnesty, she learned english and raised her kids to be Americans.
Nice lady, she lives in NYCity and is contemplating moving up here.


49 posted on 05/14/2006 4:45:18 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: The Mayor

He's also a little shaky on the 2nd Amendment. Maybe we could talk Tancredo into running instead. :)


50 posted on 05/14/2006 4:50:25 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
The last I heard Giuliani was saying to go ahead and legalize them. I'd like to see him run for president on that platform.

Let's see Rudy defend his immigration politics while he was Mayor. Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s pre-911 sanctuary policy to thwart a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS.

"Oh yeah?," said Giuliani to his naysayers, "Just watch me." The INS, Rudy claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to "terrorize people."

Very poor choice of words, Rudy.

Though he lost in court, Rudy remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, Rudy'a own boys---his handpicked charter-revision committee---ruled that New York City could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential "to preserve trust between immigrants and government."

Six days later, on Sept 11, 2001, several foreigners who had overstayed their visas participated in the most devastating attack on New York City that our country had ever seen.

51 posted on 05/14/2006 4:55:50 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: The Mayor

Oops....should have pinged you to the Rudy immigration espose, posted above.


52 posted on 05/14/2006 4:58:41 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Ya, I go along with that.


53 posted on 05/14/2006 5:02:02 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: Liz

Giuliani's policy toward illegals did seem contradictory considering his overall toughness on crime. Illegal aliens by their very presence are breaking the law, not to mention all the other crimes they commit like document fraud etc. I don't see how he can successfully defend that record in the primaries should he run anymore than McCain will be able to with his position.


54 posted on 05/14/2006 5:04:29 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Liz

What an idiot..

That is probably the reason why the HAVA act has not been done.
They are supposed to have a voter list completed, voter eligible, not vote age as they would like it to be. This gives the dems in the city an overwhelming majority in the assembly and out number us because of it.

They count all the illegals for representation.


55 posted on 05/14/2006 5:06:29 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: The Mayor

Clinton had a formula---figured the number of votes according to how many he let in.


56 posted on 05/14/2006 5:33:27 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Giuliani is more "likable" than Hillary, and he does look better in heels. But those calves of his could use some lipo.

OTOH, maybe McCainiac can get it up where Rudy couldn't. LOL.

57 posted on 05/14/2006 5:38:53 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You can't federalize the National Guard troops otherwise they will be unable to perform law enforcement functions under the Posse Comitatus Act. They would only be legally allowed to support the border Patrol unless Congress passes an amendment to change posse comitatus. However, if you leave the NG under state control it would be perfectly legal to use the NG for law enforcment purposes. Though I suppose you could argue that stopping an invasion is not the type of law enforcement that Posse Comitatus prohibits or perhaps one could argue that Article IV's injunction to defend the states from invasion would supercede any law anyway..


58 posted on 05/14/2006 6:10:37 PM PDT by old republic
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To: Liz
Yuk. The two on the left and right are lookers at least. :)

Giuliani does have a sense of humor and would be preferable to McCain, who's a lunatic. I'm still hoping for Tancredo or even Allen to get in the race though.

59 posted on 05/14/2006 6:12:54 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: areafiftyone
...its like one big Huge competition for the Hispanic vote. They (Congresscritters) don't care about the rest of the American voters. They disgust me.

You are so right.

This is the first time in 30 years that I haven't gotten involved in Republican (or any) politics at the local or national level, simply because I am so sickened by George Bush's anal immigration proposals.

I don't even have any campaign signs on my lawn or vehicle, precisely because I am so turned off by the fact that the political party I once trusted is now possibly gonna stab me and my grandchildren in the back by legalizing and allowing the increased flood of third world culture and politics, not to mention radical gangs like MS-13, drug smugglers, along with massive health risks due to the fact that border jumpers bring in all kinds of disease and pestilence.

I am truly depressed, almost to the point that I can't stand even watching the news anymore.

60 posted on 05/14/2006 6:40:30 PM PDT by Edit35
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