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Attorney General Says Bush Had Schiavo Case Wrong
CBS4 ^ | 4/20/06 | AP

Posted on 04/20/2006 1:37:42 PM PDT by AZRepublican

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To: AZRepublican
>> Crist, a former education commissioner now in his fourth year as attorney general, noted that violent crime in Florida is at a 34-year low.

Maybe because on his watch it stopped being a crime to murder a disabled woman and steal her million-dollar estate.

81 posted on 04/20/2006 4:48:49 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: daivid
I strongly disagree with that statement. Judge Greer was fair to both sides.

If he had starved a dog there may be of been more outrage from your side.

82 posted on 04/20/2006 4:51:34 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
If he had starved a dog there may be of been more outrage from your side.

Dogs may be euthanized legally. Humans may not.

Furthermore, dogs don't make verbal statements refusing forced feeding. False analogies are just that, apples and oranges.

As I said, good people disagree on this issue.

Obviously, you like to use inflammatory rhetoric and name calling. Good luck getting converts to your side.

Floridians rejected your viewpoint. Jeb Bush can't even find a Republican sponsor to introduce a bill banning verbal requests for withdrawal of feeding tubes.

83 posted on 04/20/2006 4:58:41 PM PDT by daivid
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To: bjs1779

OK, I take back my joke about you being devious. You are no competition for this kind of thinking :-)


84 posted on 04/20/2006 4:58:59 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: daivid
>> Dogs may be euthanized legally. Humans may not.

Euthanized, yes. Denied food and water, no. We republished the Pinellas cruelty-to-animals statutes several times to make the point that Terri was treated worse than any other creature.

85 posted on 04/20/2006 5:02:29 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: T'wit
You just made my point. There is a big difference between denying food and water to a dog and force-feeding a human against her will.

Last year, my neighbor's old Australian shepherd dog refused to eat and drink.

Instead of force-feeding his dog, he took the dog to the vet. The vet euthanized the dog. The vet speeded up the dying process.

If the vet had not euthanized it, the dog would have died just like Terri.

86 posted on 04/20/2006 5:14:32 PM PDT by daivid
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To: ElkGroveDan

O. J. probably acted in a sudden rage, not out of cold premeditation.


87 posted on 04/20/2006 5:15:13 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: conserv13

I had forgotten about Laci's baby...in that regard Scott was worse, killing two people.


88 posted on 04/20/2006 5:17:50 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: daivid
Furthermore, dogs don't make verbal statements refusing forced feeding.

Play Video

89 posted on 04/20/2006 5:18:56 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Do you believe everything that it's posted in the Internet?

Posting statement by discredited witnesses is weak. I'm not going to re-hash this Schiavo saga again. I'm not going to convince you of anything, and neither are you going to convince me of anything.

Your side lost because it had a weak case. All the courts that reviewed the facts and the law disagreed with your side, and most of those judges were conservative, Republicans, or both.

Here in Florida, we have the right to make a verbal request rejecting feeding tubes.

If you don't like it, try to convince the people to change the law.

Good luck in your quixotic quest.

90 posted on 04/20/2006 5:33:34 PM PDT by daivid
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To: daivid
Posting statement by discredited witnesses is weak.

William P. Cheshire Jr. - Mayo Clinic neurologist who 'observed' Terri after 5 days of dehydration.

From his affidavit:

“To enter the room of Terri Schiavo is nothing like entering the room of a patient who is comatose or brain-dead or in some neurological sense no longer there. … As I looked at Terri, and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself whether, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold life-sustaining nutrition and hydration from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others.” --3/23/2005

Cheshire

91 posted on 04/20/2006 5:37:35 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Obviously, your witnesses was discredited by the autopsy report. He was 100% wrong.

When you are in hole, stop digging.

92 posted on 04/20/2006 5:40:10 PM PDT by daivid
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To: daivid
Obviously, your witnesses was discredited by the autopsy report. He was 100% wrong.

Sure. Getting back to my original comment, why did they refuse Terri to appear in court despite pleas from the Shindler attorneys? I think most people get it, you are and an exception of course.

93 posted on 04/20/2006 5:55:06 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: T'wit

You forgot Peter Singer in your list of bioethicists.


94 posted on 04/20/2006 5:56:00 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: bjs1779
Just for the record why they did not want to her to apear in court.

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Terri Remembers Video

95 posted on 04/20/2006 6:30:19 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Verginius Rufus
O. J. probably acted in a sudden rage, not out of cold premeditation.

That doesn't matter. It was an "end of life matter" and those decisions don't belong in government. We are told those decisions are best left to family, as was the case with Schiavo, Peterson AND O.J. They were private family decisions.

But speaking of spousal rage, you need to look into the mystery surrounding the circumstances as to how Terri came to be paralyzed.

96 posted on 04/20/2006 6:31:13 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: AmishDude
>> You forgot Peter Singer in your list of bioethicists

I have no room left on the list so have to be very choosy. I kicked John Wayne Gacy off to make room for Eric Pianka and his plans to annihilate 90% of the human race. Now that is serious bioethicking. Peter Singer never made the list in the first place. He's a sissy. He's nothing but wind. Kill defective babies, he says, but does he lead the way? Has he strangled even one baby? No.

Dr. Ronald Cranford is on the bubble. The only thing that keeps him on the list is that he's marginally less creepy-crawly than Jack Kevorkian.

97 posted on 04/20/2006 6:34:51 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: daivid
>> Obviously, your witnesses was discredited by the autopsy report. He was 100% wrong.

I don't follow. I've read the autopsy report several times. It is not obvious at all that Dr. Cheshire's observations have been discredited. Would you kindly cite the references you have in mind and argue your case?

98 posted on 04/20/2006 6:41:05 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: tallhappy

OK. Settled. Crist over Gallagher.


99 posted on 04/20/2006 6:44:23 PM PDT by Amore (First, let's kill all the lawyers!)
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To: daivid
There are numerous aspects of the Terri Schiavo case that horrified me. An estranged husband with a live-in mistress and two illegitimate children was made her guardian. Michael did not "remember" her wish to die until after he won the lawsuit for her rehabilitation. Terri was mistreated, Michael not permitting even flowers in her room. There was fraud in keeping her at a hospice. There are many more reasons why this case is disturbing.

I strongly advice that you read what Martin Katz wrote in "The American Thinker" (March 29, 2005) regarding Terri. It sums it up why so many of us continue to be horrified by the treatment she received.

100 posted on 04/20/2006 6:44:41 PM PDT by Dante3
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