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Gas tax on miles, not gallons, tested in Oregon!
UPI | 3-25-2006

Posted on 03/26/2006 5:10:28 AM PST by runvus

Gas tax on miles, not gallons, tested PORTLAND, Ore., March 25 (UPI) -- Oregon is testing the idea of collecting highway funds through a tax on miles driven, rather than gasoline consumed.

Eighty percent of Oregon's highway money comes from its 24-cents-per-gallon gas tax. If the state promotes reducing gasoline consumption and consumers tend to buy the fuel-efficient vehicles, including hybrids, highway revenues would take a hit, The New York Times reported.

The test program uses a global positioning system to track miles driven, using a black box to calculate how many miles are clocked in-state, out of state and during rush hour.

The experiment is designed to increase state revenue for road maintenance without raising gasoline taxes, but critics say collecting GPS records poses new privacy issues.

"The existence of such a database, which would, for the first time in history, allow for the creation of detailed daily itineraries of every driver, raises obvious privacy concerns," said David L. Sobel, general counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a civil liberties group in Washington.


TOPICS: Government; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; gastax; mileagetax; yaxes
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To: runvus

Yeah well, they would just track my ass right out of their stinkin state and forever. Glad I don't have to make that decision, man oh man Oregon is becoming Nazified right before our eyes.


81 posted on 03/26/2006 11:49:35 AM PST by SaintDismas
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To: runvus; hollywood; Squantos; Myrddin; vrwc0915; planekT; Mulder; Dead Corpse; Lurker; Eaker

Comrade, if you're not doing anything illegal, why should you mind a government GPS tracker in your car?


82 posted on 03/26/2006 11:52:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: blackdog
Can you imagine a terrorist strike on a GPS database used for such tax collection purposes?

Nonsense. Some al-Qaeda agent with pics of a politician in bed with a dead girl or live boy probably got this introduced in the first place to protect their revenue stream.

83 posted on 03/26/2006 11:54:53 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: hedgetrimmer
They are just following Britains lead in establishing a totalitarian society where a once free people reigned.

V for Vendetta looks more prophetic each year....

84 posted on 03/26/2006 11:57:01 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: runvus

Leftists are going to impose their values on the nation through behavior taxation. That is just great and so much better than Falwell taxing each act of viewing porn. /s/


85 posted on 03/26/2006 12:05:41 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Hoodat
"I take it that the Hummer and the Honda Prius will be paying the same tax for miles driven even though one pollutes 8 times more than the other?"

Not just them, but motorcycles too, I imagine.

Sigh (shakes head).

86 posted on 03/26/2006 12:09:44 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: thirst4truth
"Not all Oregonians are liberal, just Portland, Salem, and Eugene."

I do believe Ashland belongs on that list!

87 posted on 03/26/2006 12:10:41 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Travis McGee
Oh fellow comrade I agree and bow down to the glorious party

No need to install a GPS tracker at .gov expense the sheeple pay for them themselves they call it a cell phone or OBD-II you wonder why the OS that runs the emissions controls and engine management is encrypted better than the FBI's computers Really look it up: http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/common/opinions/199804/96-1392a.txt

88 posted on 03/26/2006 12:11:44 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: Popman
"Sir, we pulled you over because we scanned your vehicle at the checkpoint and did not receive an GPS signal. Here's your $265 ticket, you have 30 days to bring your vehicle into compliance or we will issue a bench warrant"

I said years ago on this forum that this is what it was going to come to.

You won't even get pulled over. You will get your ticket in the mail for everything for failing to signal a lane change, for exceeding the speed limit, to not wearing your seat belt.

Remember who said it first.

89 posted on 03/26/2006 12:13:55 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: B4Ranch

Does the State use no-bid contracts?


90 posted on 03/26/2006 12:16:41 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: runvus
"The experiment is designed to increase state revenue for road maintenance without raising gasoline taxes, but critics say collecting GPS records poses new privacy issues."

Not to mention punishing you for where you may live and which route you choose to take to work and back. Proof? That they want to distinguish between rush hour and non-rush-hour traveling intimates they are going to charge more for sitting in traffic.

Talk about a deprivation of liberty without due process.

How have we gotten here?
91 posted on 03/26/2006 12:19:23 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Popman
you have 30 days to bring your vehicle into compliance or we will issue a bench warrant

Sometime during the next ten years, I fully expect to see the inside of a jail cell for some sort of contrived infraction against the greater good.

92 posted on 03/26/2006 12:20:47 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: BearWash
You can't control free men. You have to make criminals of them.

See post # 13

93 posted on 03/26/2006 12:26:29 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: R. Scott

of course.


94 posted on 03/26/2006 12:26:36 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: Travis McGee
We've seen this coming. Another straw on the camels back.

That damned dromedary is just about flat by now don't ya' think?

95 posted on 03/26/2006 12:42:14 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: runvus

Why make it more complicated? Cars have to get smog tests and such once a year, so just have that test include the number of miles on the speedometer. Subtract from last years total and add the tax on the miles driven to the smog test fee, plus a buck or two fee for the tester. Nice and easy.


96 posted on 03/26/2006 12:44:41 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Hoodat

You wrote -- "They severely restrict land use by prohibiting the building of intown high-density housing..."

My understanding, from living there, is that it's the opposite of what you're talking about. They actually want to use those land-use laws and regulations to pull people into town and not push them far out. And they have a term -- "densification" -- which is the opposite of what you're talking about. They're talking about having services and people "densified" and in closer proximity, making it so people can get all their services and needs "close-in" rather than drive long distances. And also, Portland is known for being a "walking town", as a lot of people walk and run and ride bikes and so on. It's not so bad, having done it all myself.

So, actually, my understanding (and experience) is the opposite of what you're saying.

And if you were living there right now, you would see all sorts of in-town, high-density living going on -- all sorts of new construction happening.

Regards,
Star Traveler


97 posted on 03/26/2006 1:31:58 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: thirst4truth

You said -- "No, there is no sales tax on goods. Oregon does not have a real estate transfer tax either. Oregon only has a 9% income tax. Also, we have gas station attendents pump our gas!!"

Yep, the no sales tax is a good thing -- for sure. I'm down in Texas for a while and I sure hate paying that sales tax. I'll be glad to have no sales tax again.

Regards,
Star Traveler


98 posted on 03/26/2006 1:42:01 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: runvus

So now the lefties want to trash privacy rights and fuel efficient cars in order to gain tax revenue, too funny!


99 posted on 03/26/2006 1:42:44 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: Tailback

You said -- "Actually Marion County (Salem) is pretty conservative. The most Liberal areas in Oregon are now Portland, Corvallis, Eugene, and the coast."

Well, what you names just about encompasses 80% of the population of the entire state. The rest of the state is devoid of people.

Regards,
Star Traveler


100 posted on 03/26/2006 1:46:25 PM PST by Star Traveler
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