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Post-Haste [Link to Pentagon Site Where pre-war Iraq and Afghanistan Documents are]
Weekly Standard ^ | 03/15/2006 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 03/15/2006 9:02:25 PM PST by bnelson44

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) has created a website where it will post documents captured in postwar Afghanistan and Iraq. The website is hosted by the Foreign Military Studies Office Joint Reserve Intelligence Center at Fort Leavenworth and will be updated continuously with new documents.

The first batch of materials, released late Wednesday, includes nine documents captured in connection with Operation Iraqi Freedom and 28 documents previously released on February 14, 2006, in conjunction with a study of those documents conducted by analysts at West Point. Sources on Capitol Hill and within the intelligence community tell The Weekly Standard that hundreds of new documents will be made available in the coming days, including 50-60 hours of audiotapes from the Iraqi regime.

ODNI officials will concentrate their early efforts on making available audiotapes and videotapes that have come from the former Iraqi regime. Twenty-five Arabic language translators will be hired to review these recordings for potentially sensitive information before they are posted. According to officials familiar with the DOCEX program, the U.S. government has in its possession more than 3,000 hours of recordings from the Iraqi regime. Among the collection: recordings of meetings between Saddam Hussein and other regime leaders; videotapes of speeches that Saddam thought would be important; audio and video of Saddam's meetings with foreign leaders; videotapes from conferences sponsored by the regime; and even videotapes of regime-sponsored brutality.

Materials made public in the first wave of the release will be those least likely to raise objections from the intelligence community and U.S. allies. Negroponte plans to include many of the documents labeled "NIV"--for No Intelligence Value--in this first group of materials.

But Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, insists that documents relevant to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 will be released in short order. "There may be many documents that relate to their WMD programs. Those should be released," says Hoekstra. "Same thing with links to terrorism."

Among that next batch may be the approximately 700 documents that served as the foundation for a fascinating study by the Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia. Analysts from the Institute for Defense Analysis reviewed thousands of documents for that two-year study of the Iraq War from the perspective of Iraqis. Declassified excerpts of their final report were published in a highly illuminating article in the forthcoming issue of Foreign Affairs. And the full report will be published as a book in the coming months.

It is hard to say what, exactly, to expect with the coming release of documents. There will be documents that lend support to those who opposed the war in Iraq and, to be sure, documents that bolster the case for those who supported the war.

Importantly, after years of questions about the threat from the Iraqi regime, we will now be able to get some answers. How close were the French and the Russians to the former Iraqi regime? What kind of information was being passed to the Iraqis on the eve of war in early 2003? What is the real story of Iraq's WMD programs? Why did Saddam's military leaders and scientists fabricate their reports on the progress of those programs? Which terrorist groups had an active presence in Baghdad? How many Palestinian Liberation Front jihadists did the Iraqi regime train each year? How effective was Saddam Hussein in deceiving UN inspectors throughout the 1990s? What did Saddam Hussein privately tell Yasser Arafat when the Palestinian leader came to Baghdad? And what were the Western targets of the "Blessed July" martyrdom operation that was being planned as U.S. troops crossed into Iraq in March 2003?

There are still outstanding process questions that must be answered, too. Who determines which documents will be released and which ones will be kept secret? And what are the criteria for blocking the release of material thought to be sensitive?

Another critical issue is authenticity. A caveat on the website reads: "The US Government has made no determination regarding the authenticity of the documents, validity or factual accuracy of the information contained therein, or the quality of any translations, when available." Determining which documents are authentic and which are not will be an incredibly important task. This will be difficult task too, since many of the documents have no known chain of custody. There was a bustling black market for forged documents in Baghdad after the war. How will we determine which documents are real and which documents are not? Some documents listed in the HARMONY database have warnings: "DIA suspects inauthentic." Will those documents be included in the release? Will the warnings? Will we learn why the DIA suspected that the document might not be authentic? Has forensic document authentication been done on any of the documents? Which ones?

In the end, the Iraqis themselves will provide answers to many of those questions. And Iraqis will probably be central to our understanding of these documents and the history they represent. This is true not only because they understand the language of the documents, but also because they understand better than anyone the culture that produced them.

In that spirit, we will be eager to hear from the "Army of Analysts"--particularly those who read Arabic--that former intelligence officer Michael Tanji wrote about here two days ago. If John Negroponte makes good on his promise of a comprehensive document release, then millions of papers, audiotapes, and other media will be posted in the coming months. As we've seen, that's an overwhelming amount for the U.S. government, to say nothing of a magazine.

Let's get started.

Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at The Weekly Standard.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; gnfa; gnfi; iraq; iraqdocs; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; releaseddocs; saddam; stephenfhayes
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1 posted on 03/15/2006 9:02:26 PM PST by bnelson44
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To: bnelson44

Oh...to be able to read and understand Arabic right now..


2 posted on 03/15/2006 9:06:21 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: bnelson44

as good as we can hope for I think


3 posted on 03/15/2006 9:07:54 PM PST by woofie
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To: bnelson44

OK, I've downloaded them all.

If anyone makes a ping list for when new docs are released I'd appreciate being added.

If not, I'm willing to make one.


4 posted on 03/15/2006 9:18:29 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: bnelson44

bump


5 posted on 03/15/2006 9:28:00 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: bnelson44
Negroponte plans to include many of the documents labeled "NIV"--for No Intelligence Value--in this first group of materials.

he considers himself above the president - does not want the release the docs - and you can bet he'll be careful not to release any that would prove Bush right -

and - releasing enough innocuous ones until th public doesn't pay any attention anymore

6 posted on 03/15/2006 9:28:09 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: bnelson44

ummm - got the site and the lists - but can't open them>????Just get that dang little box


7 posted on 03/15/2006 9:40:09 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: bnelson44
New DNC talking points:

Bush has lied to the American people, he has had proof of AQ in Iraq pre-war, has had proof of the existence of WMD in Iraq and has waited until just before mid-term elections to release it.

Oh yeah, Karl Rove planned the whole thing.

Also, attorney from Texas was going to spill the beans so Dick Chaney shot him in the face....with a shotgun made by halliburton.

8 posted on 03/15/2006 9:45:32 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: maine-iac7
you can bet he'll be careful not to release any that would prove Bush right -

and - releasing enough innocuous ones until th public doesn't pay any attention anymore

This one doesn't seem "innocuous". Looks like one that might give the "Saddam had no links to Al Qaida" crowd get their knickers in a knot.

"ISGZ-2004-019920 2002 Iraqi Intelligence Correspondence concerning the presence of al-Qaida Members in Iraq. Correspondence between IRS members on a suspicion, later confirmed, of the presence of an Al-Qaeda terrorist group. Moreover, it includes photos and names."

9 posted on 03/15/2006 9:48:15 PM PST by El Gato
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To: bnelson44

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) has created a website where it will post documents captured in postwar Afghanistan and Iraq. The website is hosted by the Foreign Military Studies Office Joint Reserve Intelligence Center at Fort Leavenworth and will be updated continuously with new documents.

Bump and bookmark


10 posted on 03/15/2006 9:49:49 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: eyespysomething

If you make one please put me on it.


11 posted on 03/15/2006 9:51:36 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin

Are there no computer programs that translate?


12 posted on 03/15/2006 9:52:42 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: eyespysomething

If you do make a ping list for this, please include me. Thanks so much, chena


13 posted on 03/15/2006 9:54:21 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: El Gato
It hasn't been translated yet, but you are right, it doesn't look innocuous.
14 posted on 03/15/2006 9:55:13 PM PST by Freedom is eternally right
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To: maine-iac7

They are in PDF format. If you don't have Acrobat you won't be able to open them.


15 posted on 03/15/2006 9:57:21 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: roses of sharon

I'm sure there are, what they are I don't know.
One of the many things I don't know. :-)


16 posted on 03/15/2006 9:59:00 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: bnelson44
Ian Schwartz at 'Expose The Left' has posted audio of the BEST interview yet of former Iraqi General George Sada, author of 'Saddam's Secrets'.

Former Iraqi General Georges Sada, who was a military adviser to Saddam Hussein appeared on The Mike Rosen Show (850 AM KOA) Tuesday March 14th, 2006. He is described as an expert airforce pilot who played a large part in saving coalition pilots' lives in Gulf War I. Sada explains what happened to the WMDs prior to the US led invasion of Iraq in 2003, stopping Saddam’s planned all-out chemical weapons attack on Israel, saving the downed coalition pilots of Gulf War 1 from execution among other interesting topics.

See these two articles at 'Expose The Left' for the audio and all related links.

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Saddam General Explains Saddam’s ‘Secrets’ — WMDs, Bombing Israel, and Genocide (AUDIO) (Part 1) http://exposetheleft.com/2006/03/15/sada-interview/

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MORE: Fmr. Saddam General Sada Talks About Attack Against Israel and Use of WMD (Parts 2 and 3)
http://exposetheleft.com/2006/03/15/sada-interview-2/

Each audio segment is about 20 minutes in duration.


17 posted on 03/15/2006 10:11:57 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: bnelson44
Looks like translating Arabic to English is very difficult. Found some interesting English translated reading however. Looks like we don't have to worry about finding ties between Al-Qa'ida and Iran. Apparently the Shiites running Iran were being groomed to be the successor to Al-Qa'ida. However, Al-Qa'ida now expects Iran to be the next US target.

Title - Political Speculation
AFGP-2002-602181
Synopsis: This document is a response to issues raised in a previous correspondence. It appears to be addressed to Al-Sahal Al-Mumtan’, but this could be the author’s name. The author is analyzing the impact of the destruction of the Buddha statues, the fall of the Taliban regime, and speculates on future U.S. steps in the Middle East.

My honorable brother, I disagree with you on another point, which forms the basis for your analyses about Iran and the Shiites (al-Shi’ah), who are likely to be candidates for the leading role and the organization’s successors in the near future.

However, I think that this won’t happen. I believe the next conflict in the Middle East after Iraq will involve Iran, because it has proved its inability and failure to handle the Islamic influx and bring it under its blind banner. Iran had a major failure on this issue; however, it is not attempting to achieve this by attacking Israel and America.

How can it fulfill the leadership role when it is incapable of guiding the Islamic insurgency?

[Looks like Al-Qa'ida was expecting the Iranian Mullahs to attack Israel and the US. And apparently the Mullahs of Iran were not very good at managing the 'Islamic insurgency' into Iraq from Iran.]

Yet Iran should prove its merit to the Muslim generation by attacking Israel, which was created by America. However, this is not suitable for these serious times with so many international infidels making plans. My suspicion is that the greatest achievement of the international infidels at this time is the crazy gyrations of Islamic groups that threaten their very existence to their roots. Whirling around like the Sufi doctrine movement, backward and fanatical, it lacks a clearly-defined doctrine and has taken from the world those who are loyal and honest. Also, its legal basis is shaky.

[Very difficult to figure this one out, but apparently Al-Qa'ida has concluded that Iran cannot attack Israel now. Perhaps this is because of the 'infidel' US military now sitting in between Iran and Israel.]

Isn’t a movement like this the hope of the Islamic nation, the objective of revolutionary youth and the protector of Jihad as long as the Nation is accustomed to its protector and its thief…? (TC: Arabic saying.)

I think the next stage is directing a strong blow at Iran to protect Israel from its missiles. The waiting heroes will be found in the staunch Taliban movement… why not? It did show legendary heroism in protecting Osama bin Laden and in destroying the Buddha idols (this heroism didn’t cost America anything but some of Mr. Buddha’s stones).

[Al-Qa'ida expects the US to strike Iran to protect Israel from its missiles. Al-Qa'ida also expects the 'Taliban Movement' (perhaps the collection of islamic terrorist groups) to help protect Iran.]

It appears that the Taliban movement will participate in destroying the thrones of the rejectionists in Iran. The soldiers of the movement are the Islamic groups, which will achieve great victories for U.S. policy (as long as the battle is under the Mythical Banner).

[It appears that the Islamic Taliban groups are expecting to destroy US forces when they move into Iran. I guess they have to come up with some type of plan. The phrase 'Mythical Banner' is difficult to figure.]

It doesn’t matter if the Nation is in existence for ten years before it understands the danger of delivering the leadership to those who avoided God’s law.

[Yikes ! Don't have a clue as to what that means.]

18 posted on 03/15/2006 10:29:30 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Trying to figure out what they meant by using the term 'Mythical Banner' in above posting. The banner translation actually appeared twice.

However, I think that this won’t happen. I believe the next conflict in the Middle East after Iraq will involve Iran, because it has proved its inability and failure to handle the Islamic influx and bring it under its blind banner. Iran had a major failure on this issue; however, it is not attempting to achieve this by attacking Israel and America.

It appears that the Taliban movement will participate in destroying the thrones of the rejectionists in Iran. The soldiers of the movement are the Islamic groups, which will achieve great victories for U.S. policy (as long as the battle is under the Mythical Banner).

'Blind Banner' and 'Mythical Banner' both used in reference to: a coming battle in Iran; and Islamic influx (insurgency) from Iran to Iraq. Interesting.

19 posted on 03/15/2006 10:42:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: ajolympian2004
In the prologue to this book, Sada has a chilling description of a meeting with Saddam where plans to attack Israel with a mass air attack utilizing chemical and biological WMD bombs were being discussed. Sada actually had to tell Saddam that such a plan would not work because it would be the blind (Iraq) fighting the sighted (Israel). Apparently the Israeli planes had radar that could see well over 100 miles, but the Russian built Iraqi planes had radar that could only see about 15 miles ? Don't know if my memory is correct on that 15 mile range, but regardless it was unbelievably short. My first impression was that the Russian planes could not have had radar with a range that short. Perhaps there was a translation problem or perhaps that was an error that slipped into his book ?
20 posted on 03/15/2006 10:57:46 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Sada talks about what you have descibed in the interview with Mike Rosen.


21 posted on 03/15/2006 11:05:48 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
Thanks. I am on a dial-up with an old computer right now. (Don't like to connect my main CPU to the net). But will check it out. I think we really need to get access to more interviews and possibly even some interrogations of actual Iraqi's. Personally, I am more interested however in what may be coming in the future. Quite frankly, what happened before Gulf War II is ancient history. Primarily interesting to those who spend their time rewriting history. But fascinating reading none the less.
22 posted on 03/15/2006 11:17:58 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: bnelson44

ping


23 posted on 03/16/2006 12:21:29 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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bookmark


24 posted on 03/16/2006 4:26:11 AM PST by federal
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To: Chena; Valin; jmc1969; MNJohnnie; Txsleuth; TampaDude; Loud Mime; garyhope; RandallFlagg; ...
I am creating a ping list for classified documents released by the White House. This is a one time ping to those who posted on either of these threads: First declassified documents from prewar Iraq released and/or Post-Haste [Link to Pentagon Site Where pre-war Iraq and Afghanistan Documents are]

If you would like to be included on the ping list, please Freepmail me.

If you post a thread pertaining to the released docs, please ping me and/or add the keyword “prewardocs”.

25 posted on 03/16/2006 5:35:55 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething

Thanks.


26 posted on 03/16/2006 5:38:21 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: robowombat

Hi! I am creating a ping list, please see the post I am replying to.


27 posted on 03/16/2006 5:40:51 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: justa-hairyape

Do we have any Arabic readers on FR?

I have been told it is an elliptical, poetic language that utilizes allusion. Many words/phrases have multiple meanings and often the written cannot be totally understood without hearing the words spoken and watching the speaker's body language. Even the body language and inflections need interpretation by someone familiar with that speaker's dialect and cultural context.


28 posted on 03/16/2006 5:41:42 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: eyespysomething

Thanks much for including me on the ping list.


29 posted on 03/16/2006 5:44:08 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: eyespysomething
If you start the ping list, would you please add me? If not you, then could you ping me when you find out if someone else starts a ping list.

Thanks in advance,
DocRock
30 posted on 03/16/2006 5:52:06 AM PST by DocRock
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To: DocRock

You've been added.


31 posted on 03/16/2006 5:55:35 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Txsleuth

I bet John Loftus is cruising the documents as we speak.


32 posted on 03/16/2006 5:57:02 AM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Ping..


33 posted on 03/16/2006 5:57:53 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: eyespysomething

Thank you!


34 posted on 03/16/2006 5:58:32 AM PST by DocRock
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To: Peach

For your AQ + Saddam link list


35 posted on 03/16/2006 6:00:02 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: eyespysomething

Add me please. Thank you.


36 posted on 03/16/2006 6:00:32 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) has created a website where it will post documents captured in postwar Afghanistan and Iraq. The website is hosted by the Foreign Military Studies Office Joint Reserve Intelligence Center at Fort Leavenworth and will be updated continuously with new documents.
37 posted on 03/16/2006 6:01:56 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bnelson44

This is just way too much for the MSM to absorb so they'll just stick with the previous montage,"Bush Lied".


38 posted on 03/16/2006 6:05:15 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: bnelson44

bump


39 posted on 03/16/2006 6:07:27 AM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...

fyi.

A quick scan shows some very interesting documents.

Of course, we know as per the DNC and the lying MSM, that al Qaeda was not present in Iraq until the evil Bush invaded Iraq.


40 posted on 03/16/2006 6:13:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Visit Free Republic to enjoy shameless Schadenfreude as the lies of liberals are exposed!)
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To: Grampa Dave
"The Pentagon Web site described that document this way: "2002 Iraqi Intelligence Correspondence concerning the presence of al-Qaeda Members in Iraq. Correspondence between IRS members on a suspicion, later confirmed, of the presence of an Al-Qaeda terrorist group. Moreover, it includes photos and names."

If the Pentagon has names and photos I'm not sure how the MSM will find a way to deny the obvious but I'm sure they're looking.
41 posted on 03/16/2006 6:18:37 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: bnelson44

Wonder if the Iraq the Model guys would translate? Worth a try...I'll alert them to the website, if they haven't already been alerted.


42 posted on 03/16/2006 6:26:11 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: Calpernia

Thank you for the ping, Calpernia. We're leaving on vacation for 10 days starting tomorrow and I hope when we return the Republicans in Congress have gotten smart and understand they need to make sure these tapes are given wide distribution as I'm quite sure they will support the administration's arguments why the war in Iraq was/is im portant.


43 posted on 03/16/2006 6:26:50 AM PST by Peach
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To: Wasanother

The MSM and rats in Congress will ignore these reports.

Their bloggers and seminar callers will call this a trick to save GW.

Then they will have another attempted electronic coup like the Plame lies ready to go. Whatever this latest attempted electronic coup is, it has been simmering in the rat blogs for weeks if not a month. Of course the NY Slimes will make these lies page one and editorial one in an attempt to keep Americans from knowing about these documents.


44 posted on 03/16/2006 6:30:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Visit Free Republic to enjoy shameless Schadenfreude as the lies of liberals are exposed!)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping. This thread had the link to the site where the documents can be seen by ordinary Americans.

http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm#iraq


45 posted on 03/16/2006 6:31:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Visit Free Republic to enjoy shameless Schadenfreude as the lies of liberals are exposed!)
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To: Peach

Very important.

Hence is why I pinged you.

I noticed in a large amount of the articles on this from the MSM that they had a broken link with the article.

So we need to get this out to our lists.

Enjoy your vacation.


46 posted on 03/16/2006 6:34:23 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Grampa Dave

bump


47 posted on 03/16/2006 6:35:32 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bnelson44
This is absolutely beautiful -- putting the information out on a website simply bypasses the old media, and puts into the blogosphere where it can be crunched on by the likes of us.

The Bush Administration very clearly understands the power of the new media....

48 posted on 03/16/2006 6:39:14 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Calpernia

After the impeachment hearings, House Impeachment managers gave a party to freepers which was shown on C-Span. The party was to thank freepers for their activism.

I'd love to see that kind of activism again with regard to these tapes.

Congressional Republicans are abandoning the President and running from their votes regarding the war in Iraq. Just as these tapes are surfacing and they should be running TOWARD the president and supporting him 100%.

If freepers could organize and find a way to push this issue, I think we could be as successful as we were with Clinton's impeachment.

I'll send this article with the working links to my e-mail list today. Yesterday I wrote to Senator Roberts, Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee and told him how vital I thought it was for Republicans to ensure the word gets out and to get back to supporting the administration. Today I'll write Ken Mehlman.

Have a good week, Calpernia.

Ken Mehlman, Chairman, RNC
310 First Street, SE
Washington, DC 20003
(202) 863-8500
E-mail: Info@GOP.com

Senator Pat Roberts
Chairman, Senate Intelligence Committee
109 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-1605
DC Phone: (202) 224-4774
DC Fax: (202) 224-3514
E-mail: http://roberts.senate.gov/e-mail_pat.html

Congressman Peter Hoekstra
Chairman, House Permanent Select
Committee on Intelligence
H-405 U.S. Capitol Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone (877) 858-9040 Toll-Free
(202) 225-4121 Office


Email intelligence.hpsci@mail.house.gov










49 posted on 03/16/2006 6:43:30 AM PST by Peach
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To: bnelson44

bttt


50 posted on 03/16/2006 6:45:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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