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TN: 2 More Students Expelled; Rifles Found In Truck
Greenville Sun/Greene County Online (Tennessee) ^ | 2/28/06 | Bill Jones

Posted on 03/01/2006 9:16:01 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

2 More North Greene Students Expelled; Rifles Found In Truck

By: By Bill Jones/Staff Writer

Source: The Greeneville Sun 02-28-2006

Dr. Joe Parkins, director of the Greene County School System, confirmed on Monday that two more North Greene High School students were expelled from school recently after a pair of hunting rifles were found in their truck’s locked toolbox while it was parked at the school.

Dr. Parkins said in an interview that he only became aware of the hunting rifle incident last Friday afternoon, although it apparently occurred “about the same time” that another NGHS student was found to have an unloaded 9 mm pistol locked inside his truck at the school on Feb. 16.

The student was expelled and faces charges in Juvenile Court

The Greeneville Sun reported the incident involving the pistol last Friday after a concerned citizen alerted the newspaper to the incident, and a report filed by North Greene’s School Resource Officer (SRO) surfaced at the Greene County Sheriff’s Department.

But no one mentioned that a separate discovery of hunting rifles in a vehicle parked at the school had been made at about the same time.

No report on the second incident had surfaced at the Greene County Sheriff’s Department as of Monday.

Parkins said on Monday afternoon that, unlike the incident involving a pistol, there are no allegations that any threats were made to other students by the two boys whose hunting rifles were found locked in a toolbox in the truck they had used to travel to school.

Parkins said he was told that the hunting rifles were in the toolbox because the two boys had been “working on them.”

Another student apparently became aware that the boys had brought the rifles to school and told an assistant principal, who searched the boys’ truck and found the firearms.

As was the case with the youth in whose truck a pistol was found by school authorities on Nov. 16, Parkins said, the two boys found to have brought hunting rifles to school were expelled from school under the state’s “zero-tolerance” law concerning firearms on school property.

In the case of the two boys in whose truck the hunting rifles were found, Parkins said, he did not know if any criminal charges had been filed in Juvenile Court.

Capt. John Huffine, the Greene County Sheriff’s Department’s chief detective, said on Monday afternoon that he had been unaware of the second recent discovery of firearms at North Greene High School.

But he also noted that he had been unaware of the first incident as well until a reporter raised the issue.

Discipline Hearing Today

Parkins said school authorities, in response to requests from the parents of all three boys, had agreed to convene a meeting of the Greene County School System’s Discipline Hearing Authority (DHA) at 1 p.m. today.

The county director of schools said the DHA is a panel of four school system administrators and a “community member,” who convene to hear discipline cases, determine the severity of the incident involved and make a punishment recommendation to the director of schools.

Parkins explained that once he receives a recommendation from the DHA panel, he can “modify” the year-long expulsions from school to a lesser punishment, if the circumstances justify such an action.

On Monday afternoon, Parkins said he expected that a decision regarding the year-long expulsions of all three students would be made by late this afternoon.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 2a; bang; banglist; bradywatch; hunt; hunting; rkba; secondamendment; zerotolerance
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To: kiriath_jearim

When was the last time a hunting rifle locked in a toolbox harmed anyone? It would help to know if these boys had any track record of abnormal behavior or violence. If they're just a couple of normal good kids that like to do a little hunting, I think the school and law enforcement officials were way out of line.


21 posted on 03/01/2006 9:47:10 AM PST by kimosabe31
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To: kiriath_jearim

Every educrat is a thug.


22 posted on 03/01/2006 9:48:58 AM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: kiriath_jearim
Hunting rifles in tool boxes. Big deal.

I live in a very rural area where lots of people hunt and almost every one owns guns. We used to take hunting rifles to school in plain view in the gun racks mounted in our pickup trucks.

And guess what? There was no gun violence then. When will stupid libs understand that the gins themselves aren't the problem?
23 posted on 03/01/2006 9:57:10 AM PST by russesjunjee (Islam and the mainstream media worship the same master...)
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To: kimosabe31

The guns were in a locked SUV. Now do you understand the concern? Armed SUV`s in a school yard? Not in this wacked out America.


24 posted on 03/01/2006 10:00:09 AM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: kiriath_jearim

How do you "find" anything in a locked box?

Find out who ratter is.

"I loaned those rifles to (ratter) the day before, and I gave him a duplicate key to my toolbox a while back so he could keep things in my toolbox. My friends can verify this. I really liked the guy - why he would try to frame me I'll never know. See? The guy ratted on me, so he couldn't have been a real friend could he? He sure had me fooled."

A little forethought goes a long way.


25 posted on 03/01/2006 10:01:36 AM PST by the Marshal
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To: TXBSAFH

I graduated in 1960. I always had an SMLE and a double 12 Stevens in my trunk. This was SOP for most male students, and even some of the girls.
I do not look forward to the state of our nation, in the future, with much hope.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 10:08:22 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: kimosabe31
When was the last time a hunting rifle locked in a toolbox harmed anyone?

Better yet....

When was the last time a gun of any kind harmed anyone?

27 posted on 03/01/2006 10:13:04 AM PST by Osage Orange (Credere et Peristere)
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To: TXBSAFH
Year before you. Minnesota. Same deal.

Hearing about crap like this never fails to disgust me. Zero Tolerance policy need to go away.

28 posted on 03/01/2006 10:20:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

WOW!! Hunting rifles in a car!!

If they only had some pot or hard-core pron, they wouldn't be in trouble (Sarcasm)

When I was in school, kids got opening day off to go deer hunting - so did some teachers.


29 posted on 03/01/2006 10:21:33 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
When I was a young kid in the late 70's I took my model 97 Winchester to middle school ON THE BUS with me.
It was in a case, and the bus driver kept it up in front, but no one cared one bit. I took a class called war and armament and it was a trench gun from WW1, took it home that night and I was in 7th grade.

We are teaching an entire generation of kids they can't ever be trusted, and I think it will come and bite us in the a$$ someday...

30 posted on 03/01/2006 10:22:20 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: kiriath_jearim

This is institutional insanity. The kids are also not real astute.


31 posted on 03/01/2006 10:23:16 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Mathews
Me too!! I went to school in Colorado. When Elk, Deer and Pheasant season came around EVERYBODY had shotguns and rifles in racks.

When I went to high school in Nebraska, we use to get in a quick hunt before school started and then go again after school was out.

Funny how I and all my friends had guns and ammo in the trunk or on gun racks in the pickup but no one went crazy with them.

But back then the family were raising children not the village.

32 posted on 03/01/2006 10:28:06 AM PST by huskerone (If guns kill people, then my keyboard causes my misspellings)
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To: kimosabe31
Oh but that would be profiling, don't cha know? Preferential treatment at the very least.

When I was in school (when dirt was young) - it was school policy that the school was allowed to search any car in the parking lot. But back then they were looking for evil beer. Half the boys in the senior class had shotguns/rifles in their trucks for hunting after school or just to be one of the macho guys. Columbine left it's mark on the nation's schools and those who wish to imitate the event.

33 posted on 03/01/2006 10:31:22 AM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: Mathews

I walked to grade school. Little 2 room country school. 10 grades. I propped my rifle or shotgun in the corner of the classroom, next to the others. Late forties/early fifties.

I had to cross several farms to get there. I had permission to hunt on them all, the same as the neighbors had permission to hunt on ours. Twice as far to walk by road.


34 posted on 03/01/2006 10:31:48 AM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

dammit! Another fine old southern tradition under attack. How will boys go straight from school to the deer lease when the season is in? They'll have to waste valuable time going home to get their guns.


35 posted on 03/01/2006 10:37:21 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: Dead Corpse; TXBSAFH; Mathews
Hi All-

The flames of absurd oversensitivity to firearms are being fanned by the media. When watching the news at night, I've noticed that virtually every story about crime features the graphic of a gun near the broadcaster's head...it's so incredibly predictable. Ted Nugent similarly noted this phenomenon in his God, Guns, & Rock 'n' Roll book.

One of my concerns is that we're raising a generation of nervous, sissified, and emasculated boys that won't know how to take a stand when one needs to be taken due to insanity like this. Some men in so-called "enlightened" states are very likely to burst out in a sweat...or even start to cry...in the presence of an unloaded firearm.

~ Blue Jays ~

36 posted on 03/01/2006 10:51:42 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The first long arms I ever handled were inside a junior high classroom...
we couldn't graduate until we'd fired a shotgun at clay targets on the football field...
and I'm under 40 years old.
37 posted on 03/01/2006 10:56:14 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: CGTRWK
It would be interesting to know more about this case and about the outcome.

The excuse that they were going to be "working on them" sounds lame. Are they amateur gunsmiths? The people at the school know what kind of reputation these young lads have and if there is nothing to it, then I'd hope they would be able to return to school. Somehow, another student learned that the guns were there. How? We haven't heard the rest of the story.

38 posted on 03/01/2006 10:58:25 AM PST by Simo Hayha (An eduction is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend against harm.)
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To: Blue Jays
How on earth will we be able to find enough policemen and military personnel when everyone is taught to fear firearms from birth?

A family member has more firearms than most small town police departments, and his sons wonder why guns are even necessary. I never would have expected the local schools to instill that attitude in his kids!!!

39 posted on 03/01/2006 10:58:58 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: TXBSAFH

At my kids' high school (parochial, by the Grace of God) students were allowed to bring weapons to school, but had to check them into the armory during class.


40 posted on 03/01/2006 11:03:57 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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