Skip to comments.Lafayette, Colorado Pit Bull and more breed ban
Posted on 02/28/2006 3:52:28 AM PST by Glacier Honey
Lafayette, Colorado is disguising BSL as Animals of Concern. 26 specific breeds are listed. Can you find yours?
Animals of Concern: means animals that based on factual studies, data, or identification by a recognized institute for breed behavior as having a propensity to be aggressive (6 traits) toward humans and domesticated animals; These animals have a higher risk of attack resulting in serious bodily injury and or death. They are identified as: Pit Bull for purposes of this chapter, is defined as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds. Other Animals of Concern include; American Bulldog (Old Country Bulldog), Dogo Argentino, Canary Dog (Canary Island Dog, Presa Canario, Perro de Presa Canario), Presa Mallorquin (Perro de Presa Mallorquin, Ca de Bou), Tosa Inu (Tosa Fighting Dog, Japanese Fighting Dog, Japanese Mastiff), Cane Corso (Cane di Macellaio, Sicilian Branchiero), Fila Brasileiro, Boerboel, Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Chow Chow, Wolf Hybrid, Siberian Husky, Alaskan Malamute, Doberman Pinscher, St. Bernard, Great Dane or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds.
See report: http://www.cityoflafayette.com/files/itemii022106.pdf
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Sorry, but I see a big difference between someone owning a firearm and someone owning an animal.
Klaphake und Schultz -
Ve vill make you safe effen iff you don't VANT it!!!
Of course there is a big difference...if you're looking for differences.
If you look at the importance of personal responsibility in dog or gun ownership
and the nanny state attempt to penalize responsible owners
for the misdeeds of criminals or irresponsible owners
then the similarities become apparent and significant.
But there is one big difference: You can't always control what a dog does.
I do not remember who said it about the Nazi's: "When they came for the Jews, I said nothing. When they came for the fundamentalists, I said nothing, then they came for me and there was no one to say anything about it." (I know it's a paraphrase as this was something I learned and forgot more than 20 years ago.
First they came for the pitbulls, and I I said nothing.
Then, they came for the Rotweillers, and I said nothing.
Now they are coming for my German Shepherd.
Really, if they want to eliminate the most irritating dogs, outlaw Pekinese.
Most dog-related problems, including overpopulation and biting, can be solved with enforcement of old fashioned leash laws:
Proposed Louisville Animal Ordinance Endangers Dog Owners
February 6, 2006
Help is urgently needed! The Louisville Metro Council will soon consider changes to its animal control ordinance that impose a number of burdensome fees, expensive licenses, and punitive restrictions that will be harmful to all dog owners.
It is unclear what problems this disjointed proposal attempts to solve. In fact, the provisions of this ordinance will create significant problems for responsible dog owners committed to socializing their animals. The proposal provides that an intact male dog can only be walked by an adult, and prohibits the animal from contact with other humans and dogs. Incredibly, the measure further prohibits a female and her litter from having contact with humans other than the owner until four months of age! The recent draft contains many such examples of regulations that prevent dog owners from acting responsibly.
Additionally, this restrictive measure would:
* Require an annual $57 license for each unaltered dog or cat over four months old.
* Define anyone who sells or gives away an animal as an "animal dealer" and require purchase of both an animal dealer license and a kennel license.
* Require persons with more than 5 altered animals to purchase a kennel license.
* Further require purchase of a kennel license by residents with less than 5 animals if they breed, show, or compete in field or obedience trials.
* Establish a $5 "show dog" fee for every dog participating in conformation that can not show proof of license in another jurisdiction.
* Specify that an animal may not be deemed dangerous solely because it bites or attacks.
In applying for any animal dealer or kennel license, dog owners would be forced to comply with a long list of provisions, including submitting to property and record-keeping inspections. Breeders would also be required to report all sales and provide license tags to new owners.
As dog owners may recall, in late 2005, Councilwoman Cheri Bryant Hamilton introduced a breed-specific proposal targeting Rottweilers and "pit bulls," defined as Staffordshire Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, American Pit Bull Terriers, or any dog which has the appearance and characteristics of these breeds. While AKC applauds the council's decision to pursue strong dangerous dog and animal control legislation in lieu of a breed-specific ordinance, this proposal does nothing to address irresponsible ownership, makes it harder to declare a dog dangerous and places severe burdens on responsible dog owners.
I saw a show on TV about the GESTAPO animal police visiting people in England when their pit-bull laws went into effect - seizing and destroying family pets for no justificable reason other than that they "looked" like pit bulls.
This country is going the way of Sweden and England.
My husband and I have a rottweiler named Ursa. She's a very gentle female, with a clownish sense of humor and a definite feisty streak: she had a stand off with a black bear in our back yard and won. She's not a big girl, only 70 lbs, but she's a total alpha. Most importantly, she was protecting her pack. After the bear ran off, she slept in my daughter's room, where she felt she was needed most, I'm sure.
She's also in training to be a therapy dog, and will sit for her Canine Good Citizen test shortly. The relationship she has with my three year old daughter is nothing short of magical. And I know she's safe with Ursa in the house.
Now, yes--if a rottweiler or a pit--or a Golden Lab or any dog for that matter-- is raised by a negectful owner, they are capable of great damage. But, to this day, I will avoid all small dogs iff possible. ps-- The Dobies I've met have always impressed me with how good natured and smart they are. (They's just too dang skinny for my taste!) ;-)
Suprised me, too. I always thought that they were giant lap dogs, gentle giants.
Dogs unlike guns have minds of their own, which is why...
You can't always predict what a dog may do.
This is why being in control of your dog is one of the main pillars of responsible dog ownership.
If you wanted to extend the control analogy to gun ownership
you could point out that firearms need to be safely stored and carried.
You store your gun in a secure place, you don't leave it lying around to be taken by anyone.
You transport your firearm with the safety engaged.
The liberal AG in my jurisdiction made the following comment...
"you cannot trust a dog owner to muzzle their dog just as you can't trust a gun owner to put a trigger guard on his gun."
BTW this same fellow who banned dogs is now attempting to ban all handguns.
To him there is an obvious connection.
The problem is that as a nanny-stater he ignores personal responsiblity.
In order to deal with specific occurences of criminal or irresponsible ownership
he infringes upon the lives of law-abiding responsible owners.
Guilty-until-proven-innocent, brain dead,
politically correct, knee-jerk, liberal hogwash at its worst:
Information on The Dog Owners' Liability Act and Public Safety Related to Dogs Statute Law Amendment Act, 2005
pinging...this is ridiculus when virtually all large breeds are being banned! German Shepherds, Great Danes, Mastiffs, Rotweillers, even St Bernards! If this passes in Colorado, watch other municipalities do the same!
If your dog won't fit into Barbie or Ken clothes idgits will eventually try to ban it.
This is ridiculous. This paints entire breeds with a broad bruch, without even considering how the dog was socialized. Now granted it takes a lot of work to properly socialize a staffordshire or a rot (especially the former). I have run into examples of some of these other "vicious breeds" and have found many examples to counter these claims.
1. I have yet to find a vicious or aggressive malamute. About the most fun trail dog around. Same goes for huskies.
2. German shepherds can be raised to be vicious. However, when socialized, they are about the most intelligent dogs around, and very good at reading people. Some german shepherds I have come across on some bike rides in Texas will run out to see who the strange person on the contraption is. My response is usually friendly, and the shepherd goes into the mode "dog person".
3. Dobermans' demeanors are highly dependant on how they are raised. I have seen the junkyard mean Dobie, and then there's my boss' dog - gets real excited when he sees me. Either way a bit high strung.
I have 2 of the sweetest Siberian Huskies that I think have ever lived.
They wouldn't hurt ANYONE, probably not anyone who was intent of harming them either. Great guard dogs :-P
Bans like these are just absolutely asinine and PROBABLY unconstitutional.....
Love your lying liberals graphic. Best one I've seen in a while.
There is definitely an agenda afoot here... Once they have these breeds condemned to extinction, every other large dog will be in their sites. It's all about imposing Beijing rules on American dogs and their owners. Cui bono?
I've been bitten twice by a Jack Russell Terrier. The same one.
The gun may not have a mind of its own, but if an idiot owner leaves it lying around, children, criminals, or those not of sound mind may get hold of it. Then you have an "other" that has control of the gun . . . but it's the owner's fault.
Same thing with the dog. Let it run loose and untrained, the "other" will take over from the owner . . . and again, it's the owner's fault.
These nanny-staters want to punish the instrument (gun, dog) and not the owner who is the true guilty party.
Sounds like the communist crap from Boulder has run over its banks and got all the way up Highway 36.
I would recommend a recall petition for the entire City Council and the Mayor, just to get their attention. And the first time the big money guys from PETA or the Humane Society start throwing their weight around, get on the phone with Mike Rosen at KOA and raise some REAL stinks.
Sorry I can't help you directly (I moved out of Broomfield 6 years ago), but I think maybe going out and talking with your own neighbors to get a "buzz" started might be the best tactic. Endanger one of those elected bozo's little ego trip and they get real attentive to local concerns.
If you tried something like that around here, it would be like kicking a hornet's nest.
And more than one idiot has asked me if my very small and very lively Chocolate Lab is a Pit Bull . . . I don't want idiots deciding that she really IS one . . .
(I mean, does she look like a Pit to you? Not me. Although in this second picture I suppose she does, a little.)
After reading the PDF link, the requirements are outrageous if you want to have one of their listed animals. You can't keep it in the house, it has to wear a fluorescent orange collar provided by the city and it has to be photographed by the police! They even specify the size, shape and construction of the outdoor kennel! What about service dogs that happen to be one of these breeds? Are they to be banned as vicious, even though they are a service animal?
We see great danes at the dog park all of the time. One won't let my most timid basset near him, he is such a big baby.
They just lumped a bunch of big dogs in there.
I stand corrected. Too tired from pulling out a stubborn stump in the way for my new fence so my puppies can run loose in the back yard!
THAT was clever! LOL
Chows are a 40-60 pound dog... Sheesh... I thought I had a big tomcat... ;~D
You could try explosives ;~D
Sorry, AAM, I saw that article, just about beat my keyboard down through the top of my desk and wasn't really paying much attention to where my post got sent.
I'm in central Montana, and folks around here have got pretty much the same attitude about that stuff as your neighbors. Which, BTW, is around half the reason we moved here. (The rest is because of the grandkids living a half mile down the road.)
Good smile on your Choc', she looks like a real prize. (BIG thumbs up.)
Well said. Thanks for the ping!
Yep, Jacks can be a trial. I've got Great Danes and Jacks. The Jacks are definitely more agressive. I often say if they were Dane-sized they'd have to be destroyed. The Jacks rule the household.
This makes me mad too -- anybody tries to take my dog is going to wish they'd never tried . . .
We've got three, all pets that our kids found out they couldn't keep so they "temporarily" left with us.
One's just a mutt(terrier mixed with God alone knows what)but she's smarter than some people I've been around and pretty well rules the roost. Number two is a one-eyed Australian Shepherd who must have a double dose of herding genes, because she'll run field trails on absolutely everything that gets inside the fence. The youngest is a "Yellow" Lab (She's actually snow white)who is hands down the best dog I've ever been around, but snubs everybody as soon as she sees our oldest grandson. (Nobody can figure out just who belongs to whom in that relationship.)
Try to take any of those dogs, and you'd better bring lots of help with supplies for a long term effort.
That's just to get by me, and then you'd have to deal with Grandma.
She probably thinks that grandson is her personal property. My dog feels that way about me . . . she will even do that "get between behavior" if my hubby or my kids give me a hug. Just a LITTLE possessive . . .
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. My dog Harm is an Alaskan Malamute/Siberian Husky/Labrador cross. He looks like a Malamute with dorky lab ears. He is rambunctious and very strong, but he is also very loving. According to this, my dog would be one of the "dangerous" dogs. Also, some people mistake him for a wolf hybrid because he looks like a Timber Wolf with lab ears.
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Chows vary quite greatly in size. They can be rather "medium" in height, as that pix shows (and like the black 1 that pursued my old cat mercilessly 1 day), or quite tall, closer to mid-thigh height.
Surprised? How about "St. Bernard", and "Newfoundland" for surprise? Now THAT'S a shock.
Patton had a Bull Terrier, not quite a "pit".
I believe "Bull terriers" "American Staffordshire Terriers", "English Staffordshire Terriers" and a few others are referred to as "pit bulls" I think "pit bull" is a catch-all term used to describe any type of fighting terrier breed formerly used in dogfights conducted in pits and isn't really the name of a specific breed.
Of course, I have been known to be wrong, but I do know quite a bit about dog breeds.
Mostly correct, a lot depending on who you ask. The American Pit Bull Terrier (or APBT) is recognized by the UCA, UKC, ADBA, and CKC as a distinct breed, but it does not have the imprimatur of the AKC, which distinguishes the American Staffordshire.
The real problem is that the lack of definition means that the local dog catcher or police officer is left to discretionarily interpret the legislation as they see fit in these types of bans, which is complete b.s.
As for me, I'll stick with my Assault Sport Utility Shepherds, and any local gendarme who attempts to sieze them had better come prepared to kill me. My eldest has quite literally saved my life twice, and I'm prepared to do what's necessary to save his.
The American Pit Bull Terrier isn't recognized by the CKC.
I guess the real point here as you and others point out, is the nebulousness of the term "Pit Bull" and the idiocy of condemning an entire breed of dog due to irrational behavior on the part of a few and the foolishness of some owners.
German Shepherds have my vote as the "most intelligent". I don't care what the animal behaviorists have to say about border collies and poodles. They might be easier to train to do a lot of amusing tricks, but having had a German Shepherd, I, like you, know they can REALLY "think" in a very human sense and analyze and solve problems other so called "intelligent" breeds could never solve.
Sure, they can be problem dogs - some have been overbred by too many puppy mills. But if I had to pick one breed of dog to trust my life with or that of my family, it would be a well-bred, well-trained German Shepherd dog.
A yellow lab attacked my pug-pitbull mix & my other pitbull just sat there & watched. Granted...the pug mix deserved it...he is a puppy & was being very annoying. He got a rude awakening that day when he realized that not all dogs will play fight with him like his adopted mommy. Luckily, he only had one tooth mark on his neck that broke the skin. He is learning his place.