Oldest Hominid Skull In Australia Found Near Bega (7 Million Years Old)

Bega District News ^ | 1-13-2006

[VadeRetro]

Were there any eutherians in OZ 7 mya?

Bats. Rats show up about 4 million years ago.

There's one crazy out-of-place condylarth species "Tingamarra," a single jawbone. How it got there 50 or so million years ago is anyone's guess.

[Junior]

Precursors of the giants of Mu...

[blam]

"THE endocast of a primitive hominid-like skull was recovered from among the rubble of a volcanic plug in the Bega district in May 2005."

This date worries me. If there is any chance this is true, we'd have heard about it through more reputable channels by now, eh?

[muawiyah]

Peking Man is rather recent compared to this.

Interestingly enough, this particular "ape man" has to get out of Australia to somewhere else, and that will take him a boat.

(For a variety of reasons no matter what the sea level is, Australia is separated from the Old World by a quite deep and wide body of water.)

[Coyoteman]

"THE endocast of a primitive hominid-like skull was recovered from among the rubble of a volcanic plug in the Bega district in May 2005."

This date worries me. If there is any chance this is true, we'd have heard about it through more reputable channels by now, eh?

Several things about this do not ring true. Many scientists doing this kind of work will sit on a find for a couple of years, getting the best information from their colleagues and establishing their evidence to several decimal points before going public; and they most often go public in parallel with an article in a technical publication such as Science or Nature.

I'd wait for this to settle out a bit before I bet the rent money on it.

[blam]

"at one time, it was out of China... remember PekingMan???"

Could still be. IMO, the race is still on.

[montag813]

Lester believes the damn thing was a monkey. But you and Gilroy go ahead and keep believing the other, montag813. At least Gilroy characterizes his belief as such.

I agree. The jury is still out on this. I'm just having a bit of fun atg the expense of those morons who go around museums telling kids it's all lies...evolution, fossils, the whole works.

[VadeRetro]

Rex Gilroy's web page. I'm forgetting about this until Scientific American runs with the story.

[VeritatisSplendor]

I believe the Bega endocast represents a race of ancestral hominids, which in time evolved into a proto-Homo erectus race from which Homo erectus proper evolved, here in Australia before he did anywhere else, to in turn evolve into anatomically modern humans,

Since when does evolutionary theory hold that a single species can arise in several times and places, that an identical set of random mutations will occur twice? You don't have to be a creationist or an I.D. proponent to have issues with this guy.

Mrs VS

[CarolinaGuitarman]

" Several things about this do not ring true."

Your instincts are most correct. Gilroy appears to be a loony *paranormal* researcher. He believes in underground pyramids and ancient *giants*.

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/creationscience/giant_australians.html

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Damn it you beat me. Gilroy is a loon.

[VadeRetro]

The UFOs make him do that stuff. It's the electrode in his head.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

It would appear the entire article is a bunch of crap. Oh well, didn't make any sense to begin with.

[blam]

"I'm forgetting about this until Scientific American runs with the story."

Ditto.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

The first clue I should seen was this sentence,

"The fossil was discovered by noted prehistory researcher Rex Gilroy of Katoomba NSW, where he operates the 'Australian-Pacific Archaeological Research Centre'."

*Prehistory researcher* usually is code for ancient astronaut nut-job. Probably of the Von Daniken/ Velikovsky mold. He should call into "Coast to Coast" though, he'd fit right in.

[VadeRetro]

The "Hominid" skulls are here. Compare them to the kind of fossils creationists routinely mock as fanciful constructions of the imagination of real paleontologists.

[JustDoItAlways]

There are NO mammals (proper) in Australia until Homo Sapiens and Canis Lupus arrived 50,000 years ago (okay a few flying bats before that.)

Australia has ONLY Marsupial mammals.

So there is NO evolution of hominids from mamalian primates (proper mammals) in Australia.

This article is GARBAGE.

[VadeRetro]

The above is a pygmy hominid. I've got a driveway full of micro-hominids and never realized it.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Now, I will admit I know next to nothing about examining bones, but those look just like stones he found with vaguely skull-like proportions. The pictures are really small too, you can't click on them to enlarge them. I bet he makes a lot of money selling books though.

[VadeRetro]

My reaction exactly. Down the page he may have a real skull or two, but not particularly primate-looking.