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A Fellow Torture Victim Splits With Sen. McCain (interesting turn of events)
The Hill ^ | December 6, 2005 | Jonathan Allen

Posted on 12/06/2005 6:34:54 AM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: dennisw
 
I hope you realize that this McCain ban on torture would be used by lawyers to prevent all tough interrogation. Even sleep deprivation and sodium pentathol. You really want that?
 
You're so right.  Once McCain gets his way, the debate will move from torture to 'what is torture?' I can assure you that there are some that call imprisonment torture, and we will be on that preverbial slippery slope.

41 posted on 12/06/2005 10:40:18 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: lugsoul
Good morning.
"...I'm still more than willing to say that raping and beating family members is a line I don't want crossed in my name,"

I can only hope your loved ones, and mine, are never endangered because your principles prevent you from doing whatever is necessary to protect them.

Michael Frazier
42 posted on 12/06/2005 10:41:01 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville
Well, I hope so, too. But that construct does nothing to alter what is right and what is wrong.

If my choice were to order, or approve, the rape of some detainee's 4-year-old daughter, or to take a chance with the safety of myself, or my 4-year-old daughter, or you, that choice is easy. Right and wrong don't change because the price of doing right is high.

43 posted on 12/06/2005 10:49:35 AM PST by lugsoul
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To: lugsoul

Personally, I don't know why McCain would even be friends with someone like John Kerry in the first place. Besides, torture is real not effective.


44 posted on 12/06/2005 10:58:16 AM PST by gman992
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To: lugsoul
Good morning.
"Right and wrong don't change because the price of doing right is high."

Right and wrong become irrelevant concepts when the wolf is coming through the door.

McCain's bill isn't about raping babies or right and wrong. It is political grandstanding that will be used by our enemies the DemocRATs to hinder the war effort, putting us all at risk.

Michael Frazier
45 posted on 12/06/2005 11:16:01 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: freema

Thanks.


46 posted on 12/06/2005 8:01:26 PM PST by GOPJ (Guest Worker Programs don't reflect our values. Say "NO" to second class citizens & slavery lite.)
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