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Confrontation is a good thing [Mark Steyn]
Telegraph - Opinion ^

Posted on 10/31/2005 4:52:10 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Confrontation is a good thing By Mark Steyn (Filed: 01/11/2005)

According to The Sunday Telegraph, on this week's whirlwind tour of the Great Satan, the Prince of Wales "will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam…because he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11". His Royal Highness apparently finds the Bush approach to Islam "too confrontational".

If the Prince wants to take a few examples of the non-confrontational approach with him to the White House, here's a couple pulled at random from the last week's news: the president of Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map". Kofi Annan expressed his "dismay".

Excellent. Struck the perfect non-confrontational tone. Were the Iranian nuclear programme a little more advanced and they'd actually wiped Israel off the map, the secretary-general might have felt obliged to be more confrontational and express his "deep concern".

In Sulawesi, Indonesia, three Christian girls walking home from school were beheaded.

"It is unclear what was behind the attack," reported the BBC, scrupulously non-confrontationally.

In the Australian state of Victoria, reports the Herald Sun, "police are being advised to treat Muslim domestic violence cases differently out of respect for Islamic traditions and habits". Tough luck for us infidel wife-beaters, but admirably non-confrontational Islam-wise.

Having followed the last Prince of Wales in his taste for older divorcées, His Royal Highness seems to be emulating Edward VIII on the geopolitical front, too, and carelessly aligning himself with the wrong side on the central challenge of the age.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Mark nails it again.....
1 posted on 10/31/2005 4:52:12 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I truly wish I could write like this guy...Kofe would express his "deep concern"...ROFL..


2 posted on 10/31/2005 4:56:38 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Honest officer, I wasn't speeding.....I was qualifying)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bump for later.


3 posted on 10/31/2005 4:58:21 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people. Ps. 14:34)
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To: Sub-Driver

Great article!


4 posted on 10/31/2005 5:02:16 PM PST by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: Sub-Driver

Mark Steyn takes no prisoners. Bush should change the subject every time Prince Charles opens his foolish mouth about Islam. Calling Clinton a 'novelty act between the Cold War and the New War' is hilarious, but doesn't deal with the incalculable damage that man did to this country. 9/11 and its aftermath is only half of it.


5 posted on 10/31/2005 5:03:45 PM PST by hershey
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To: Sub-Driver

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6 posted on 10/31/2005 5:06:27 PM PST by Free State Four
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To: Sub-Driver

This is an inbred royal who has aspirations to become a tampon in his next life. Why a decent man would lower himself to host such a laughingstock is beyond me.

But it does show Bush's Christian quality (no sarcasm intended, he suffers fools brilliantly), as brilliantly as Mark Steyn writes.


7 posted on 10/31/2005 5:09:27 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Sub-Driver

BTTT


8 posted on 10/31/2005 5:21:33 PM PST by Gritty ("Bill Clinton is the novelty-act intermission between the Cold War and the new war - Mark Steyn)
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To: Sub-Driver

You would think Britain could find someone proudly British to lead them as king, and you would think they could find a Christian to lead the Church of England.

They seem determined to sink into the sea, and if so they've found the right king to lead them there.


9 posted on 10/31/2005 5:22:15 PM PST by marron
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To: Sub-Driver

Hasn't found them yet...

10 posted on 10/31/2005 5:36:17 PM PST by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Unable to go to other sites... could someone post the whole thing... thanks!


11 posted on 10/31/2005 7:15:35 PM PST by carton253 (Never take counsel of your fears.)
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To: Sub-Driver

"doesn't seem to get the same kick out of climbing into the old Lawrence-of-Arabia get-up for dinner with them: for His Highness, the excitement is in tents."

Oh, man. Only Steyn is this good.


12 posted on 10/31/2005 7:18:00 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: carton253


Confrontation is a good thing
By Mark Steyn
(Filed: 01/11/2005)

According to The Sunday Telegraph, on this week's whirlwind tour of the Great Satan, the Prince of Wales "will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam…because he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11". His Royal Highness apparently finds the Bush approach to Islam "too confrontational".



If the Prince wants to take a few examples of the non-confrontational approach with him to the White House, here's a couple pulled at random from the last week's news: the president of Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map". Kofi Annan expressed his "dismay".

Excellent. Struck the perfect non-confrontational tone. Were the Iranian nuclear programme a little more advanced and they'd actually wiped Israel off the map, the secretary-general might have felt obliged to be more confrontational and express his "deep concern".

In Sulawesi, Indonesia, three Christian girls walking home from school were beheaded.

"It is unclear what was behind the attack," reported the BBC, scrupulously non-confrontationally.

In the Australian state of Victoria, reports the Herald Sun, "police are being advised to treat Muslim domestic violence cases differently out of respect for Islamic traditions and habits". Tough luck for us infidel wife-beaters, but admirably non-confrontational Islam-wise.

Having followed the last Prince of Wales in his taste for older divorcées, His Royal Highness seems to be emulating Edward VIII on the geopolitical front, too, and carelessly aligning himself with the wrong side on the central challenge of the age. It's true that Mr Bush does not have the Prince's bulging Rolodex of bin Laden siblings and doesn't seem to get the same kick out of climbing into the old Lawrence-of-Arabia get-up for dinner with them: for His Highness, the excitement is in tents. But Bush has liberated 50 million Muslims from tyrannous regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq and, if he was in the mood to be really confrontational, he'd tell Charles to stick it up his djellaba.

Sadly, even a neocon warmonger can't get confrontational over every nickel 'n' dime emissary passing through the office, and the Administration has other problems at the moment. "Mr Bush's presidency is in deep trouble," declared Alec Russell in this space yesterday. "It is worth recalling that even at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal Mr Clinton's approval rating never dropped below 55 per cent, while Mr Bush's is now at 40."

Is it really worth recalling? Mr Clinton's approval rating stayed above 55 because he was careful not to do anything, at least on the non-pants-dropping aspects of his presidency, of which the electorate might disapprove. The oral sex was pretty much the only position he took that wasn't focus-grouped by Dick Morris beforehand - and, come to think of it, it wouldn't surprise me if it was and that's why he went ahead with it. ("Our polling suggests it would make you seem attractively flawed and human to susceptible soccer moms in swing states, Mr President.")

At any rate, above the waist, Mr Clinton governed as an "Eisenhower Republican" - ie, very non-confrontational. The president's distinguishing characteristics loomed paradoxically large over the era only because everything else he did was so small.

Mr Bush, on the other hand, wants to remake the Middle East, reform social security, legalise illegal immigrants, drill for oil in the Arctic wilderness, etc. Whatever the merits of these positions, they are confrontational. Even many of his supporters balk at two or more of the items on that list.

You could fill Yankee Stadium with the massed ranks of assistant secretaries of state and deputy national security advisers from his father's administration - and Reagan's and Ford's and Nixon's - who oppose the Bush Doctrine to blow apart the fetid stability of the Arab world. A radical repudiation of half a century of bipartisan policy on a critical component of the geopolitical scene ought to be controversial.

Posterity will decide whether Bush got that one right. By contrast, posterity will have a hard time recalling Mr Clinton at all, except as a novelty-act intermission between the Cold War and the new war. Would you rather be popular or would you rather be consequential? Popularity is a fine measure for celebrity, and even then it fades quicker than a DNA stain on an old cocktail dress.

Granted, President Bush has failed to use the bully pulpit. As I wrote in the Telegraph in September 2002: "A few weeks after the attacks, he had the highest approval ratings of any president in history. But he didn't do anything with them." And, although I was a bit off in my timing, Mr Bush was indeed eventually "right back where he was on September 10, 2001: the 50 per cent president, his approval ratings in the fifties, his 'negatives' high, the half of the country that didn't vote for him feeling no warmer toward him than if the day that 'changed the world' had never happened".

But, given that reality, it's worth pondering who it is who's dissatisfied with Bush. In November 2004, he won 51 per cent of the vote and John Kerry took 48 per cent. The five or 10 per cent who've temporarily wandered away (a poll yesterday had Bush at 45 per cent) are not "centrists" or "moderates" or "swing voters" or some other mythical category of squishes who want an end to what Alec Russell calls the Karl Rove "style of hardball politics".

The lesson of every contest from the 2000 election to the abandonment last week of Harriet Miers's Supreme Court nomination is that, as Michael Barone wrote in the Wall Street Journal, "Mr Bush can count on being firmly, and more or less unanimously, opposed by the Democrats, and he can succeed only when he has the strong support of the Republican base".

Just so. Bush is a polarising figure because these are polarising times. But, when the dust settles (metaphorically, I hope), his designation of Iran as part of an "axis of evil" will seem a shrewder judgment than that of the Euro-appeasers or the snob Islamophiles. Facing profound challenges, most political leaders in the western world have shirked confrontation on everything from Islamism to unaffordable social programmes - and their peoples will live with the consequences of that non-confrontation long after those leaders are gone.


13 posted on 10/31/2005 7:25:05 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene

Thank you so much!


14 posted on 10/31/2005 7:35:57 PM PST by carton253 (Never take counsel of your fears.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Well, Chuck's certainly entitled to his opinion, but it doesn't strike me as likely to gain a great deal of traction in the United States at the moment. For all his reputation as a simpleton, Bush turns out to have a considerably more sophisticated and nuanced take on things Arabian than the Prince does - he has, after all, taken endless flack from both sides of the aisle for his support of the Saudi royal family and has risked his political reputation and legacy for the freedom of 20-odd million persons of Arabic language if not necessarily descent. If Chuck regards that as being anti-Arab one has to wonder, in the British vernacular, if he can reliably distinguish his hat from his bum.

Bush is not so much confrontational as he is another word that has been expropriated by persons to whom it does not remotely apply: progressive. His is the drive for a progress in a world which now the left bestrides, shouting for it to halt. An odd turn of fate, actually, and one that disturbs his conservative supporters quite as much as it does his detractors on the left.

That means progress in the Middle East especially, and if it is not toward the sort of internationalist or Arab nationalist or whatever other political enthusiasm of yesterday predicted, it isn't really his fault. A left that clings to world socialism turns out to be as outdated as an Islamic fascism that clings to the precepts of the 7th century AD. Trash heap of history.

15 posted on 10/31/2005 7:57:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SquirrelKing

POST OF THE DAY !


16 posted on 10/31/2005 8:07:14 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Sub-Driver
My favorite Mark Steyn quote:

Mr Bush, on the other hand, wants to remake the Middle East, reform social security, legalise illegal immigrants, drill for oil in the Arctic wilderness, etc. Whatever the merits of these positions, they are confrontational. Even many of his supporters balk at two or more of the items on that list.

It won't fit a sound-bite but it speaks of Bush trying to change things long-term so America will be better off. President Clinton was inconsequential because he desired to be popular. Bush is willing to forsake a good deal of popularity for a legacy that matters. Unlike Tampon Man from London hawking "non-confrontation" with Islam, Bush is determined to shake things up. Who would you rather have leading the Free World at such a critical time? Prince Charles and President Clinton may have their distinguishing characteristics but I hazard a guess fearlessness in the face of the present danger isn't one of them.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

17 posted on 10/31/2005 8:07:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bump.


18 posted on 10/31/2005 8:10:16 PM PST by aculeus
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bfalr


19 posted on 10/31/2005 8:13:43 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: Sub-Driver
"Having followed the last Prince of Wales in his taste for older divorcées..."

Below the belt, but PC (an apt acronym in this case) deserves it.

"...and doesn't seem to get the same kick out of climbing into the old Lawrence-of-Arabia get-up for dinner with them: for His Highness, the excitement is in tents."

Is this after all the reason for PC's deference to the Muzzle-ems - some odd mix of Romanticism towards the Levant and guilt for how the Foreign Office bollixed things when they were the bosses there?
20 posted on 10/31/2005 8:23:08 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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