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Thoughts On Urban Survival (Post-Collapse Life in Argentina)
Frugal Squirrels ^ | Oct. 20, 2005 | Fernando, an Argentine Architect

Posted on 10/29/2005 10:13:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: blam

I was thinking just in time has more to do with supplying factories with parts prior to assembly. It's related closely to the term I'm looking for for keeping only "the pipeline" full on the way to the supermarket shelf, with no giant warehouses upstream anymore. But JIT will do until someone provides the specific terminology.


81 posted on 10/29/2005 9:02:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: djf

As resources, I highly recommend both the frugalsquirrels.com and survivalblog.com websites.


82 posted on 10/29/2005 9:04:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

The best thing I read in the essay(besides being stocked) was setting upsome informal neighborhood watch group type. I'm pretty lucky because where I live, it would not take much at all to seal it off from the outside. But it would have to be an organized effort.


83 posted on 10/29/2005 9:09:19 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: Billthedrill

Ping.


84 posted on 10/29/2005 9:09:56 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Travis McGee
Something I've been intrigued with lately...good info to know anyway. A very simple cooling mehanism...-70 degrees F, no gasses, most of us have the parts to build one of these in our garages, presently.

Vortex Tubes

85 posted on 10/29/2005 9:11:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: Travis McGee

Thank for the post.


86 posted on 10/29/2005 9:12:17 PM PDT by semaj (qu)
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To: Noumenon

I should ping you too on this one.


87 posted on 10/29/2005 9:13:40 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the ping, TraM!


88 posted on 10/29/2005 9:13:48 PM PDT by Brian Allen (Patriotic [Immigrant] AMERICAN-American by choice - Christian and Aviator by Grace)
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To: djf

Yep, a LOT depends on the layout of the area around your house. A walled gated community will be terrific.
Living a block away from main arteries on open surface streets will be a disaster.


89 posted on 10/29/2005 9:14:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: djf
"I don't think it's possible to plan on leaving in an emergency. All along the coast in Washington state, they have signs "Tsunami Route" to higher ground. "

I wasn't leaving. My concern was all the needy people who 'flooded-in' to my sphere of influence. People everywhere for days, stranded, out of gas, no food, water, etc.

90 posted on 10/29/2005 9:15:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Has anybody built it?


91 posted on 10/29/2005 9:16:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: blam

Yep, those highways can bring tens of thousands of hungry, scared, desperate and possibly infected etc folks into your little shangrila in a hurry.


92 posted on 10/29/2005 9:18:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: blam

I guess in a tsunami, you would have no choice. But thinking about the bioterrorism or bird flu epidemic possibilities, the last thing I'd wanna do is run to a supermarket and have some 6 year old kid cough up something green on me!


93 posted on 10/29/2005 9:20:31 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: Travis McGee
"Has anybody built it?"

Commercially available ones here: Vortex Tubes

94 posted on 10/29/2005 9:21:53 PM PDT by blam
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To: Dane
Correct, and it's still common to see Irish bricklayers on British Airways flights to and from Germany carrying their tools.
95 posted on 10/29/2005 9:23:30 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: djf

The bird flu self quarantine option is another reason to have a year's food on hand ASAP.


96 posted on 10/29/2005 9:24:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

I tried to have a year's supply of food on hand, but chinese take out only lasts four days, tops.


97 posted on 10/29/2005 9:28:20 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Travis McGee
This article reminds me of the debates we had here prior to Y2K - when some thought that Y2K was going to result in a collapse of our economic system and a breakdown of civil order.

I remember how some who thought this scenario would play out were bragging about how prepared they were going to be. They were going to have bars of gold, generators, a year's supply of canned good, a closetful of ammunition, and on and on.

These armchair commandos had visions of sitting comfortably in their homes with a rifle across their lap, generator going full blast and eating pork and beans while the world went to hell in a handbasket all around them.

I told them how foolish they were to think this. Fire up a generator during a national crisis and you'll attract thugs and criminals like bugs to a bug lamp. Slap a bar of gold on the counter of the local store and you might as well wear a sign on your back that says "Follow me home and rob me." Shoot at somebody begging at your door and well, you might as well prepare for a lynch mob. I don't care how much ammunition you have stockpiled, you aren't going to hold back a mob of starving people once they find out you've got a stockpile of food cached away.

98 posted on 10/29/2005 9:32:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: djf
" But thinking about the bioterrorism or bird flu epidemic possibilities, the last thing I'd wanna do is run to a supermarket and have some 6 year old kid cough up something green on me!"

Yup, Think about what you're doing before you do it. I bought some N95 face masks on an impulse because they claimed to remove 95% of all particles at .30 microns or larger. It wasn't until later that I did my 'homework' and found out that most viruses are .15 microns or smaller. Live and learn.

99 posted on 10/29/2005 9:32:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: SamAdams76

There is a fantasy of heroism that exists among those whom the world seems to have forgotten.


100 posted on 10/29/2005 9:34:26 PM PDT by durasell
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