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Spider 'is 20 million years old'
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| 9/30/05
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Posted on 09/30/2005 9:17:27 AM PDT by bigmac0707
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To: corkoman
Yes they are. Just because you believe them doesn't make them true. There is quite a bit of disagreement regarding dating.
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:26:22 AM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: MeanWestTexan
I'd rather have t-rex running around than this spider.
You can see t-rex, you can shoot t-rex. Dealing with a spider infestation could be very difficult.
Which is easier to exterminate, a dinosaur colony or roaches ?
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:26:23 AM PDT
by
staytrue
To: Prime Choice
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:27:01 AM PDT
by
T. Buzzard Trueblood
("Fidel NEVER was the "bad" person except being designated as such." hombre_sincero, Freeper)
To: general_re
Okay...got my dose of creepy-crawlies for the day!
Fortunately, I only have to deal with field spiders and the occasional wolf spider. When I first moved to California, I had to contend with a massive infestation of Black Widow spiders in the garage. That was incredibly unnerving for me at the time...
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:27:10 AM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: staytrue
Well, we still have roaches but I haven't seen any dinosaurs in awhile.
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:27:41 AM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: bigmac0707; GreenFreeper
Looks like a "Modern-Day" Wolf Spider....Evolution @ work, nothing needs to be changed, if prefect...and lives, to pass on its DNA/genes :/
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:27:57 AM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
To: mlc9852
I was under the impression carbon dating isn't reliable past 50,000 years or so. That's why I said coupled with at what level in the strata the amber was discovered.
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:28:17 AM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: Prime Choice
And how would they determine how old the strata was?
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:30:42 AM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: Prime Choice
As I understand it, C-14 half life is about 5,700 yrs. It seems that that would make it impossible to date something over 11,400 yrs old using this method.
I've no reason to doubt that it is 20 mil years old, give or take, but I'm not sure how they would have determined that number.
To: exile
Was it Helen Thomas' childhood pet?LOL! ...What do you think it was running from? ...HELEN. :D
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:31:41 AM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
To: bigmac0707
Peter Parker did well with a radioactive spider, didn't go so well for Gwen Stacy, however...
(darn, I'm old...)
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:31:58 AM PDT
by
GreenLanternCorps
(3-0 The September Jinx is broken!!! Who Dey! Who Dey! Who Dey Think Gonna Beat Dem Bengals!!!)
To: Prime Choice
We got those down in Texas - just don't stick your hands or feet into dark places or piles of litter, and you should be okay ;)
Anyway, this one appears to have an even closer living relative in South America, by the name of Misionella mendensis, but I can't find any pics at the moment.
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:32:09 AM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: staytrue
I'd rather have t-rex running around than this spider. You can see t-rex, you can shoot t-rex. Dealing with a spider infestation could be very difficult. Which is easier to exterminate, a dinosaur colony or roaches ?
Here's a better thought ... DON'T clone a T-rex or a Raptor. Only clone VEGAN dinosaurs, ok??? If some scientist things it would be great to clone a T-rex, show him the scene from Jurassic Park where the T-rex eats the lawyer sitting on the john. hehehe.
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:32:31 AM PDT
by
TexasGreg
("Democrats Piss Me Off")
To: bigmac0707
Spider blood has been found in amber and scientists hope to extract its DNA.OJ says spider may prove to have been Nicole's real killer.
To: NutCrackerBoy
LOL!
That is, as long as the 8 minature spider gloves fit.
To: blam; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; ClearCase_guy; cogitator; CollegeRepublican; ...
ECO-PING A little more science and evolution than ecological but thought it was interesting! He first saw the fossil during a visit to the Museo del Ambar Dominicano
Hmmm, they call that a fossil eh?
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:37:04 AM PDT
by
GreenFreeper
(FM me to be added to the Eco-Ping List)
To: bigmac0707
"It doesn't say which dating methods were used here, only that the date was determined by extracting blood-- and I'm not sure how one would date something based on organic materials. Unless the spider was radioactive of course. (In that case, the movie ends up really bad for the humans)"
The article failed to mention the "Born on date" found in the spider's wallet.
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:37:07 AM PDT
by
Tenacious 1
(Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
To: bigmac0707
Dr Penney, of the School of Earth, Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences, said he had used the blood droplets to trace how, when and where the spider died.
Uh, that would be by getting stuck in tree sap which then hardened into Amber.
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:38:58 AM PDT
by
Danae
( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
To: bigmac0707
...and even how fast it was moving.Hey? (holding up my hand and waving) I can answer that question and you don't even have to pay me a ridiculous amount of money to do so.
The spider was moving very Sloooooooooooooooowly with all of that sticky goo on him. How's that...and it's free!
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:39:18 AM PDT
by
DH
To: bigmac0707
The organic materials would contain C-14 (radioactive carbon, which decays at a set rate and, mildly more controversely, is believed to exist at a set baseline % of total carbon at a given time).
Assuming one does not eat after death, the shortfall of the baseline % tells you how old something organic was when it stopped eating (e.g., died).
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posted on
09/30/2005 9:40:32 AM PDT
by
MeanWestTexan
(A good friend helps you move. A great friend helps you move a body.)
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