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Theresa Marie Schindler... May Daily Thread 2005 CALL TO ACTION: Our Fight for Justice Continues
Various Sources ^ | April 3, 2005 | floriduh voter

Posted on 04/03/2005 5:19:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter

Freeper friends, Terri's Memorial Service is this coming Tuesday night in Gulfport, Florida. Please check and see if www.baynews9.com will carry it on the internet.

I'm still sad and in disbelief that the rescue fell apart. It was on it's way. We were waiting there for ambulances but instead two Sheriff's cruisers arrived.

There's much work to do. There are many work groups here carrying on for Terri.

The April Daily Thread as before will be a meeting place, a news digest and even in the midst of sorrow, a place to make friends.

I want to thank everyone who did everything humanly possible for Terri and her family. Terri's safe now from a room with the blinds closed, strange people and armed guards. She'd still be here if it wasn't for judicial despots who it appears have never read the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. or Florida Constitution.

Freepers, Republicans and Democrats alike voted against Terri or didn't do enough to save her from Judge Greer.

I'd like to thank Ralph Nader, David Boies, Joe Lieberman and Wesley Smith, Phd, author of Forced Exit.

I have disdain for the Naughty Nine Republicans in the Florida Senate who vote "No" which barred Terri from legislative relief. The GOP House Members who voted "No" on Terri, shame on them too.

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE AGENDA AND WHO IS IN CHARGE? I'm afraid that Judge George Greer is in charge - of everything.

PLEASE HELP FLORIDA... CALL YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN.

HELP US. We feel stranded by tyranny today, but Florida is ripe for change. We will demand it together as Americans.

Thanks, FV


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Schiavo Case Spurring Statehouse Debate

Sunday, April 3, 2005

The arguments surrounding Terri Schiavo will live on in statehouse debate and new laws if an emerging coalition of disability rights activists and right-to-lifers succeed in turning the national agony over her case into a re-examination of when and how our lives come to an end.

So far, only a few legislators in a handful of states have sought significant changes to their laws, which define the fundamental elements at stake - how a person can set limits on their medical care, who gets to decide what their wishes are, what evidence is needed to prove it.

None have yet become law and the chances for most, if not all, are slim this year, with some legislatures finished and many far along in their work for this session. But both Republicans and Democrats say the arguments aren't going away.

The debate is an effort to strike a new balance between one stance that argues that medical care and morality mean life must be pursued in nearly all cases, and another stance, crafted over decades of changing views about death, that some may choose to end drastically damaged lives that depend on artificial means.

"I really wanted to make sure we gave a default for life and not for death," said Kansas state Rep. Mary Pilcher-Cook, a Republican who helped revive a measure that would give courts a greater chance to review decisions to end life-sustaining care, lessening the role of guardians or doctors. "Our most vulnerable citizens are in fact in the most danger of losing their life without any recourse."

She was joined in her effort by disability activists, many aligned with liberal causes, and Democrats in the state House. The measure stalled in the Kansas Senate, however, as the session ended for the year last Friday.

"We don't want to get into the politics of the right or the left or whomever," said Michael Donnelly at the Disability Rights Center of Kansas. "This isn't about politics, this is about how we value or don't value the lives people with disabilities have."

His group had been working for years to revisit the issue, and came together with several conservative legislators to move the bill forward. Elsewhere, the National Right to Life Committee has produced model legislation and is working with legislators in several states.

Legislation has also been introduced in Alabama, Hawaii, Louisiana, Minnesota and South Dakota. The Louisiana bill is called the "Human Dignity Act"; Alabama's is the "Starvation and Dehydration Prevention Act."

Many measures predate recent weeks of attention to Schiavo, though some drew their inspiration directly from the agonized public debate over the 41-year-old woman's death - like one in Missouri introduced last Thursday, the day Schiavo died.

"I was gripped by what I was watching and couldn't believe the state of Florida would let this woman die in this manner," said GOP state Rep. Cynthia Davis. Her bill would bar anyone from directing that artificially supplied food and water be withheld or withdrawn without a specific written directive from the patient.

There's also a slew of legislation around living wills and other end-of-life issues that wouldn't further the aims of this emerging group - like a Nevada measure that would let a guardian end life-sustaining measures even if it's against a patient's known wishes, as long as it's in their best interests.

The views of medical care and ending life have shifted over the past 30 years as the country grappled with brain-damaged or coma-bound patients whose families said they shouldn't be forced to live a life they wouldn't want, starting with Karen Ann Quinlan in 1975, then to Nancy Cruzan in 1990 and now to Schiavo.

Critics say the medical community and society have gone too far. "When original advance directives were created, nobody contemplated that hospitals would refuse to treat ... It was usually just the opposite, doctors refusing to pull the feeding tube," said Burke Balch, director of the National Right to Life Committee's medical ethics center.

Now, he says, the presumption in the hospitals, the courts and in too much state legislation, is to go ahead and pull life-sustaining treatment when there is not enough evidence that the patient wanted it.

Doctors and bioethicists say that overwhelmingly, safeguards exist in hospitals and in courts to ensure that patients' and families' wishes and best interests are protected.

"Are they going to go out and undo all the hard work that people have done to make sure they can die without having to go to court?" said Dr. Jean Teno, associate director at Brown University's Gerontology and Health Care Research Center.

Most decisions, unlike the portrayal of critics, are made by doctors and families working together, she said. "My sense is that this approach is working."

Political agendas are hard to discount, as congressional leaders raise dire warnings against judges in Florida and Washington over their Schiavo decisions. That meshes with GOP efforts to put more conservatives in the judiciary.

But political stereotypes fell, too, with traditionally liberal leaders like Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Ralph Nader supporting Terri Schiavo's parents efforts to keep their daughter alive.

Advocates vow that the questions of civil rights and morality are going to win out.

"If there's any doubt, than life trumps death," said Donnelly, in Kansas. "I'm a quadriplegic, been that way for 28 years. I would hate for somebody else to decide my life is not worth living."

1 posted on 04/03/2005 5:19:06 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Salvation; nickcarraway; NYer; Diva Betsy Ross; Calpernia; tutstar; ...

If you have lists, please ping them here.


2 posted on 04/03/2005 5:23:29 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: amdgmary

Ping. Do you have any pretty pictures of Terri and if you have info re: the Memorial Service, feel free to post it here. Thanks, FV


3 posted on 04/03/2005 5:27:06 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: floriduh voter
Please see this thread for contact information and updates as well.

DEMAND JUSTICE FOR TERRI AND FOR US

4 posted on 04/03/2005 5:28:30 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: tutstar

tutstar, at your convenience, can you put some other Terri links here to start things off for April? Thanks, FV


5 posted on 04/03/2005 5:29:08 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I'll link exchange over there in case we get news.


6 posted on 04/03/2005 5:31:23 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: floriduh voter

If you are putting together a ping list, would you please add me.

Thanks.


7 posted on 04/03/2005 5:35:24 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: floriduh voter


April 2, 2005

Terri's family have arranged a funeral Mass to remember their daughter and sister. Supporters have been encouraged to join in prayer with the Schindlers.
Where:
Holy Name of Jesus Catholic Church
5800 15th Avenue South
Gulfport, Florida 33707

When:
Tuesday, April 5, 2005
There will be a reception from 5.30 to 7.00pm at the Maria Center directly across from the church.

Services begin at 7.00.

Media:
The media has been asked to allow the family of Terri Schiavo and their many volunteers privacy at this time.

Offerings:
Terri's family has received flowers from so many people and are touched by these acts of kindness. They, literally, have no room left for more.

If you would like to send your condolences to the Schindler family in lieu of flowers, you may send a Mass Offering Card to the Holy Name of Jesus Catholic Church or a note to the Schindlers at the address below.

Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation
4615 Gulf Blvd #104-103 -
St Petersburg Beach, FL 33706

http://www.terrisfight.org/


8 posted on 04/03/2005 5:37:50 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: floriduh voter

BUMP

I for one did not think it would actually come to starving a helpless woman. I thought about driving to FL during the whole time -- but there was always one more thing to hope for; and honestly, I hoped there would be more than enough local people there -- to raise consciences, etc.

I did witness locally on Good Friday. Could not abandon her on that day of all others . . .

BUMP again


9 posted on 04/03/2005 5:38:20 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: floriduh voter

Her last name was Schiavo. Thats just silly to only use her maiden name in the post headline.
Sure her husband helped kill her but that doesn't change her last name.


10 posted on 04/03/2005 5:38:52 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: floriduh voter
"I really wanted to make sure we gave a default for life and not for death," said Kansas state Rep. Mary Pilcher-Cook......

It's so simple, isn't it? And yet the waters have been muddied.

11 posted on 04/03/2005 5:39:00 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: FairOpinion

bump


12 posted on 04/03/2005 5:39:10 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: FairOpinion; Ohioan from Florida
I don't have a ping list but there's "ohioanfromflorida" for this thread.

TERRI PING LIST CONTACT: ohioanfromflorida

13 posted on 04/03/2005 5:39:17 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: STARWISE

At your convenience, can you link some recent Terri threads here??? Thanks, FV


14 posted on 04/03/2005 5:40:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: JRochelle
Group decision to call her Schindler again.

Hubby was in a de facto remarriage which was against Florida laws against cohabitation with 2 illegit kids.

15 posted on 04/03/2005 5:43:09 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: floriduh voter

Yes!............... Thank you FV!!!

I concur!

Terri Schindler she is!


16 posted on 04/03/2005 5:47:11 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: floriduh voter; AAABEST; archi_tex; Argonaut; beckett; Beowulf; Big Guy and Rusty 99; ...
Theresa Marie Schindler... April Daily Thread 2005
CALL TO ACTION: Our Fight for Justice Continues


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Florida ping list!. . .don't be shy.


17 posted on 04/03/2005 5:48:03 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: floriduh voter

Yes!............... Thank you FV!!!

I concur!

Terri Schindler she is!


18 posted on 04/03/2005 5:48:58 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: floriduh voter

Sorry! it didn't post then posted twice!

Oh...but maybe it needed to be said TWICE!!!!!
Thanks girl!!!!!


19 posted on 04/03/2005 5:50:40 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: floriduh voter

bump


20 posted on 04/03/2005 5:51:01 PM PDT by Velveeta ("The litmus test is whether or not a person can bring a spoon to their mouth" G. Felos)
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