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Outrage as US soldiers kill hostage rescue hero
The Observer ^ | Sunday March 6, 2005 | Philip Willan Rome

Posted on 03/05/2005 6:21:41 PM PST by Lessismore

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To: F.J. Mitchell

As I am.

Sorry the guy was killed but it wasn't our troops fault. They did their job well. It's the driver that screwed up. What his motivations were I don't know.

And I want to know more about this "jornalist" and her association with the terrorists. She's the one that started this whole mess and I don't believe for a moment she is innocent. She's been after the fall of the coalition and berlusconi for suppoting it for awhile.


61 posted on 03/05/2005 7:04:18 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Polybius

I actually respect the Italians more these days than anybody else in Europe. They still have some nad. Too many communists though.


62 posted on 03/05/2005 7:04:58 PM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: LadyDoc
Sorry, I'M OUTRAGED they gave terrorists 5 million dollars...no one mentioned this so far....

Five million will fund a few more months of terrorist activities including bombings of our own soldiers and Marines.

The Italians have purchased the deaths of our troops on an executory contract.

63 posted on 03/05/2005 7:05:08 PM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

there is a little bit of anger, frustration, and disgust going on here.


64 posted on 03/05/2005 7:06:07 PM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Since when do Communists and anti-Americans care about facts? Since when do Communists and anti-Americans care about traffic rules?
65 posted on 03/05/2005 7:06:09 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: A. Pole
She is alive because the killed agent have covered her with his body.

ummm....unlike tv and movies, where plywood buildings and bodies stop bullets, in reality a high powered rifle bullet would have killed her too....

66 posted on 03/05/2005 7:06:23 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Lessismore
he was grim-faced when he told reporters that someone would have to take responsibility 'for such a grave incident'. Darn right, Silvio. The driver.
67 posted on 03/05/2005 7:07:39 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: LadyDoc

Our story is we fired into the engine block, so my guess is it was shrapnel from the engine, which can take a very random course. And she was hit in the shoulder, not badly enough though.


68 posted on 03/05/2005 7:07:50 PM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Kitten Festival

Silvio needs a big steamin' cup o' STFU.


69 posted on 03/05/2005 7:08:30 PM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: A. Pole

In truth? She's an Islamic sympathizer attempting to bring down the coalition. I wouldn't wish her death in spite of that knowledge, but I certainly wouldn't authorize paying off the terrorists to free her. Nor do I think her life is worth the life of the agent. Further I think this whole story of a kidnapping is suspicious to begin with.


70 posted on 03/05/2005 7:09:07 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Lessismore

A little more of this Roman madness, and I will happily add Italian products to my boycott list.


71 posted on 03/05/2005 7:12:04 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Lessismore
Italian newspapers reported yesterday that Sgrena had been in the hands of former Saddam loyalists and criminals, and that a ransom of between £4 million and £5 million had been paid for her release.

They overpaid.

72 posted on 03/05/2005 7:12:59 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Lessismore

Remember these two "hostages" fromm last year?


From The Daily Telegraph: Italians fall out of love with 'two Simonas' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/02/wsim02.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/10/02/ixworld.html


73 posted on 03/05/2005 7:13:03 PM PST by MisterRepublican (I DEMAND THAT FOX NEWS REHIRE JENNIFER ECCLESTON!)
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To: johnb838

I agree. probably shrapnal from the engine block...which would have been traveling slower and on a random projectory...i.e. accidental killing when trying to stop a car, not deliberatly aiming at her...

My point was that if they were trying to shoot them to kill them, they all would have been dead...


74 posted on 03/05/2005 7:14:08 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Lessismore
Question:
"Berlusconi...was grim-faced when he told reporters that someone would have to take responsibility 'for such a grave incident'."

Answer:
"The US Army claimed the Italians' vehicle had been seen as a threat because it was travelling at speed and failed to stop at the checkpoint despite warning shots being fired by the soldiers. A State Department official in Washington said the Italians had failed to inform the military of Sgrena's release."

Isn't she the one who called for one of her cohorts to "release the pictures"? This smells.

75 posted on 03/05/2005 7:16:00 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: LadyDoc

Exactly. We could have lit that car up and turned it into an inferno any time we wanted. Then we could have said "Gee, I'm sorry" and there would have been no argument. I'm not in the habit of wishing people dead, but our guys are taking way too much heat for doing their jobs.


76 posted on 03/05/2005 7:16:55 PM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: SandRat
I'm sure the investigation will show the speed of the vehicle , whether or not it was slowing for the checkpoint, and determine its route and behavior at other checkpoints, as I'm told there are multiple checkpoints. Then I personally hope that President Bush makes it clear to our friend Berlusconi that we demand an investigation into why the Italian car, driven by an experienced Italian agent, attempted to blow a security checkpoint.
Sorry, but I'm becoming cynical as well as tired of the US being the international whipping boy.
77 posted on 03/05/2005 7:17:13 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: Soul Seeker

It is very strange that this woman supposedly having gone through the hell of being a captive of the homicidal sadest terrorists, under threat of death, has nothing to bemoan about her days in captivity, but instead behaves as though the incident at the check point has tramatized her for life.

The stench of collaboration and conspirecy permeates her entire alleged ordeal.


78 posted on 03/05/2005 7:17:47 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (When the left hates you, rejoice, for you are right!!!!!)
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To: MisterRepublican
Giuliana Sgrena and her Communist friends are achieving their goal. Collaborating with the terrorists and spreading anti-American propaganda.

Yep. IMO, once the islamists discovered who she was, they collaborated with her in this effort. Brothers to the bone.

79 posted on 03/05/2005 7:18:30 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: Wristpin

...Something about this has my spidey sense tingling...

When I first heard of this incident, my first thought was, "talk about bad luck". I mean, here she no sooner gets released from capture and then immediatly gets fired upon for ignoring a checkpoint. Worst luck ever.

Now I find out she is a Commie (don't know how I missed that part until now, but I did).

Let's put it this way. I can now put aside any doubt of her side of the story having any merit whatsoever. I also no longer feel that she was "lucky" to have emerged from her captivity with her head still attatched to her scrawnie little commie neck.


80 posted on 03/05/2005 7:19:12 PM PST by planekT
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