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The Drug to End All Drugs (addicts get high one last time, then never want to get high again)
Village Voice ^ | February 18th, 2005 6:39 PM | Aina Hunter

Posted on 02/22/2005 1:21:45 PM PST by dead

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To: ellery

I can see what you mean, but it's not quite the same thing. You don't exactly choose to get lung cancer- you get it, or you don't- smoker or non smoker. I was thinking more along the lines of removal of consequence from a choice (drug use)a person makes in my previous post. But, very true, it doesn't mean that the cure is a bad thing.


41 posted on 02/22/2005 1:59:22 PM PST by musical_airman (If you are a single southern gal in her 20's that doesn't have kids, please say so.........)
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To: expatguy
what is a "strawberry"?

this (speaking of drug addicts).

42 posted on 02/22/2005 1:59:46 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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To: UCANSEE2

Local police forces that use the drug laws to confiscate all sorts of plunder.


43 posted on 02/22/2005 1:59:56 PM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: Oberon

yeah,...50 miles of bad road,...a double-bagger,...coyote-ugly,...there are thousands of decriptions


44 posted on 02/22/2005 2:00:03 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I just watched that episode last night (thanks, Tivo!). It was written by Jerry Stahl, who wrote "Permanent Midnight" about his own heroin addiction. In the book, he talks about taking some drug (don't think it was ibogaine) that basically left him without the cravings for heroin. He immediately went back onto the drug. The problem--and he has a character say pretty much the same thing in the episode--is that you have to WANT to get off of drugs, and you have to UNDERSTAND what it is in your own personality that made you an addict in the first place. Without those, any "miracle cure" is pretty much a waste of time.


45 posted on 02/22/2005 2:00:28 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: henkster
It's like using sex to cure someone of ever being pregnant again

Let me introduce you to my friend Janet Reno.

46 posted on 02/22/2005 2:03:36 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: dead

Ayahuasca too. Go to Brazil for treatment.


47 posted on 02/22/2005 2:05:13 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: dead
I've heard about this from years.

I always (and still do) chalk it up to one of those x-files conspiracy theories mixed in with healthy doses of urban legend.

Notice the referance to the CIA in the very begining, add in elements of money, multiple people turning it down, legal problems, etc, and now its something people can believe in.

48 posted on 02/22/2005 2:05:49 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Tall_Texan

That looks more like a mushroom.


49 posted on 02/22/2005 2:06:25 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Heyworth
I just watched that episode last night (thanks, Tivo!).

I just found a transcript of the episode:

...WARRICK: That'd make her a bag-bride ... a strawberry. Paid her rent horizontally. As long as a dealer keeps a strawberry high, the strawberry does whatever the dealer wants...

50 posted on 02/22/2005 2:12:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: henkster

Yes, and morphine was the cure for opium, and methadone for heroin,........


51 posted on 02/22/2005 2:15:34 PM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat

IS THERE A CURE FOR FREEREPUBLIC? IT'S SO ADDICTIVE! ALL FREEPER JUNKIES SAY YO!


52 posted on 02/22/2005 2:28:20 PM PST by FreeManWhoCan ("Credo!")
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To: ruiner
I agree, I stopped taking the article seriously at " prison-industrial complex" . . .

With only a bit of sarcasm, I could say that that's when I started taking the article VERY seriously. People outside penal and courts system are mostly unaware of how big a business it really is!

I had, and have, a number of relatives and friends in the corrections 'industry'. With the draconian drug laws that exist in most states and increasingly harsh penalties for other crimes (e.g., '3 strikes' style laws) the corrections bureaucracy is HUGE! In California the PAC representing prison guards is second in lobbying power only to the state teachers association. And none of them would like to lose their job because drug use (and therefore drug arrests and incarcerations) would plummet.

53 posted on 02/22/2005 2:34:36 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: UCANSEE2
I PREDICT YOU WILL NEVER FIND THIS DRUG ON THE MARKET

It's a house plant.
54 posted on 02/22/2005 2:35:47 PM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: IonImplantGuru
In California the PAC representing prison guards is second in lobbying power only to the state teachers association

I respectfully disagree that Californian's prison industry PAC is second to the Teachers Union. They were and are the single largest political donor in California. And Grey Davis was their hand-puppet.

55 posted on 02/22/2005 2:39:55 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Durus
Bupropion has proven to be a very effective aid to stop smoking.

Is that anything like Wellbutrin (Zyban)? I can't recall the actual (or generic) name of it, but I do know that it's a psychosomatic (hope I spelled that right, lol) drug. I tried it during one of my practice quitting sessions, and thought it was absolutely wretched stuff. Insomnia coupled with technicolor dreams when I did manage to squeeze in a couple of hours, and zilcho effect on the cravings. Grrr!

If this is something different, I'll get googling!

56 posted on 02/22/2005 2:45:23 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: mugs99

If I started rolling and smoking my sweetie's houseplants, she'd be very angry with me.


57 posted on 02/22/2005 2:48:53 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: Oberon

I almost hit the Abuse Button on you, you fiendish little FReep!


58 posted on 02/22/2005 2:54:22 PM PST by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Doubt it...you gotta want to quit!!


59 posted on 02/22/2005 3:09:31 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: ruiner
Look around you. Government workers at all levels, local, state and federal, as well as their contractor cronies and those in the medical community, are reaping unimaginable profits from building prisons and incarcerating drug criminals.

If we locked people away for crimes that involve force or fraud initiated against people or their property, and offered medical treatment to addicted people who have not committed these crimes, we would be saving billions of dollars.

While I do agree that a lot of the people who use the phrase "prison-industrial complex" are often off their rockers, there are inordinate amounts of evidence that show that we are wasting tons of money, enlarging the size and scope of government at all levels, and meanwhile not treating addicts.
60 posted on 02/22/2005 3:10:35 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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