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London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals...
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Posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by IGBT

London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago.

Rosalind Harding, the research team leader, told The Times: "The gene is certainly older than 50 000 years and it could be as old as 100 000 years.

"An explanation is that it comes from Neanderthals." It is estimated that at least 10 percent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 percent carry the gene responsible, which could account for their once fearsome reputation as fighters.

Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw. They were taller and stockier than Homo sapiens, but with shorter limbs, bigger faces and noses, receding chins and low foreheads.

The two species overlapped for a period of time and the Oxford research appears to suggests that they must have successfully interbred for the "ginger gene" to survive. Neanderthals became extinct about 28 000 years ago, the last dying out in southern Spain and southwest France. - Sapa-DPA


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1 posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:08 PM PST by IGBT
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To: msdrby

ping


2 posted on 01/16/2005 12:48:05 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have sliderule, will calculate.)
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To: IGBT
I love redheads.

Turns out I love Neaderthals.

3 posted on 01/16/2005 12:49:00 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Lazamataz
Neaderthals

Neaderthals????

Neaderthals??!??!?

4 posted on 01/16/2005 12:49:57 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: IGBT
"Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals... "


5 posted on 01/16/2005 12:50:07 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: IGBT

So, the English are calling the Irish Neanderthals.

Surprise, surprise.


6 posted on 01/16/2005 12:51:09 PM PST by It's me
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To: IGBT

...make shure you confirm they are REAL redheads. :)


7 posted on 01/16/2005 12:51:46 PM PST by IGBT
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To: IGBT
I think there's two types of redheads.

There's the rusty brown of silky auburn - very atractive.
And the brillo-ey neon orange - no so much...

8 posted on 01/16/2005 12:52:12 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: IGBT
Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals

I'll buy that.

9 posted on 01/16/2005 12:52:52 PM PST by martin_fierro (Hines Ward is my son! OK, not really, but it'd be nice.)
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To: IGBT

I am a redhead of Scottish decent and I am not comfortable with the idea that a British scientist has attributed red hair to Neanderthals. It smacks of a slur, for some reason.


10 posted on 01/16/2005 12:52:55 PM PST by TheLionessRN
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To: IGBT
Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw.

Well, I hunt and I like my meat rare and I have red hair and freckles (see nickname) but I'm totally drawing the line at cannibalism. I know what you people eat. There is no marinade or rub that's going to make you people "finger lickin' good".

11 posted on 01/16/2005 12:53:09 PM PST by Gingersnap
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To: Lazamataz

Yep. Me too.

12 posted on 01/16/2005 12:53:43 PM PST by Jagdgewehr
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To: It's me

:^D

Only thing is the REAL Irish aren't red-headed and freckled. Ireland gets that from the viking invaders. Turns out the real Irish are the Black Irish: Dark featured, but still rather pale skin and rather short.


13 posted on 01/16/2005 12:54:33 PM PST by dangus
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To: IGBT
Guess that helps explain "beat like a redheaded step child".

I myself like redheaded women...and auburn, jetblack, blonde, strawberry blonde, brown, and lately, since I'm married, a mix of grey and brown.

FMCDH(BITS)

14 posted on 01/16/2005 12:54:39 PM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: Lazamataz

What is left out is that the Neanderthal on the average had a larger brain size that H. Sapien.


15 posted on 01/16/2005 12:54:53 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Neaderthals??!??!?

"That is sooooo condescending!" - Geico Caveman.

16 posted on 01/16/2005 12:55:03 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: TheLionessRN

I agree, and I am also a redhead of scottish descent. Especially since the article says that the neanderthals apparently died out while in spain and southern france. Shouldn't there be a larger population a redheads in that region if so. The science in this article sound highly suspicious.


17 posted on 01/16/2005 12:55:27 PM PST by Celtic Rose (It may be prudent in me to act sometimes by other men's reason, but I can think only by my own)
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To: IGBT
Red hair may be the legacy of Web Hubbell.


18 posted on 01/16/2005 12:55:54 PM PST by martin_fierro (Hines Ward is my son! OK, not really, but it'd be nice.)
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To: IGBT

uh-oh


19 posted on 01/16/2005 12:56:08 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: bikepacker67

lol


20 posted on 01/16/2005 12:56:11 PM PST by martin_fierro (Hines Ward is my son! OK, not really, but it'd be nice.)
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