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Humans Were Born to Run, Scientists Say
Reuters ^ | 11/17/2004 | Patricia Reaney

Posted on 11/17/2004 11:06:41 AM PST by ElkGroveDan

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To: ColoCdn
It's the reason that people who have 'incurable' diseases subject themselves to medical studies that have the proviso that the drugs are experimental and may actually have adverse affects.

Not the same comparison. The If it is incurable, the chance of death is 100% if no action is taken.

When you go into surgery, the surgeon is careful to mention that there are no guarantees, and that you may die as a result of invasive procedures. But you get your gall bladder taken out, anyway.

Would you go to a surgeon that would give you a 77% chance that at the end of the surgery he would not have removed your gall bladder?

301 posted on 11/18/2004 2:29:49 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

OK, WTurkey.

Got the document. In The Document itself in Table 2. there is an enumeration of the 26 conditions.

From antianginal agents all the way down to intubation/ventilation.

And your analysis is... what, based on which evidence that YOU can observe? Be specific, with categories and numbers. You know we don't want you to look bad, here.


302 posted on 11/18/2004 2:36:20 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: WildTurkey

If it was 77% probable that I would die because of surgery, and 100% probable that I would die without it, sure I'd take the surgery.

That's not a very subtle argument.


303 posted on 11/18/2004 2:38:33 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: petercooper
ROTFLMFrigginAO!!!

So funny, and yet it's actually not. He is definitely the poster boy for POS politicians in our system.

God, please do the right thing and take this man soon.

Oh, I'm sorry. He'll have to answer to different 'lower authority' someday I presume.

304 posted on 11/18/2004 2:47:17 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: WildTurkey

It's been fun. Gotta go. CYa


305 posted on 11/18/2004 3:01:49 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: ColoCdn
If it was 77% probable that I would die because of surgery, and 100% probable that I would die without it, sure I'd take the surgery. That's not a very subtle argument.

I would go to another surgeon! No a subtle argument but you missed even so.

306 posted on 11/18/2004 3:44:08 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn
From antianginal agents all the way down to intubation/ventilation.

We can start there. How much did prayer improve the incidence of antianginal agent events?

307 posted on 11/18/2004 3:48:02 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ElkGroveDan

I know I'm way behind on this thread and I'm sure some have said this, but I agree with aspects of this theory. We evolved in trees, but then the forest changed to open grasslands. So we had to change too. In the open, we needed to be able to spot predators, travel long distances looking for food, have less surface area exposed to the sun in the middle of the day, be able to cover short distances quickly. All of this lead to the transition towards the upright motion we have today. Running is part of it, but not nearly all of it.


308 posted on 11/18/2004 3:53:37 PM PST by thefactor
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To: WildTurkey

Took you a while.

Antianginal events
11% IP 10% Control Statistically Insignificant Difference


Unstable angina
10% IP 9% Control Statistically Insignificant Difference

Antiarrythmics
9% IP 13% Control Statistically Insignificant Difference


Next line that you see........ is..?


309 posted on 11/18/2004 3:56:18 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: WildTurkey

That's not an argument, that's a Henny Youngman oneliner.


310 posted on 11/18/2004 3:57:01 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: ElkGroveDan; blam

Hom come search didn't find this....posted the same article from the LA Times.....


311 posted on 11/18/2004 3:57:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: WildTurkey

And not a very good oneliner, either.


312 posted on 11/18/2004 4:00:52 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: ColoCdn

Is that your answer? Statistically insignificant?


313 posted on 11/18/2004 4:04:25 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

And the next line you see... is ....?

Just answer the question. It's actually quite simple.


314 posted on 11/18/2004 4:06:25 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: ColoCdn

"How much did prayer improve the incidence of antianginal agent events?"

Funny you won't answer my question ...


315 posted on 11/18/2004 4:08:46 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn
And the next line you see... is ....?

This is not a reading class. Now answer my question:

316 posted on 11/18/2004 4:09:44 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

You don't have the document.

A one percent decrease in the control group for antianginal events.
A one percent decrease in the control group for unstable angina.
A four percent improvement in the IP group for antiarrythmics.
More to come....if you can just tell me what's the next line.

Answered.

Now. Can you read? Or are you just wasting my time? If you are I'm going to be very pissed for about 30 seconds, then I'm going to forget you for a while.


317 posted on 11/18/2004 4:14:29 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: ColoCdn

Please answer the following:

Which group had the higher death rate?

A) The group receiving prayers
B) The group NOT receiving prayers

Case closed.


318 posted on 11/18/2004 4:14:59 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn
A one percent decrease in the control group for antianginal events.

Conclusion: Prayer did not help.

319 posted on 11/18/2004 4:17:45 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn

Please answer the following:

Which group had the more deaths?

A) The group receiving prayers
B) The group NOT receiving prayers

Case closed.


320 posted on 11/18/2004 4:18:57 PM PST by WildTurkey
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