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Kerry says the report proved sanctions worked? NO! WAY LOOK!

Posted on 10/07/2004 8:02:20 PM PDT by FesterUSMC

OK, Let me just tell you something here I spent about 5 minutes looking through Charles Duelfer’s Report this execerpt is from part 1, i'm NOT a laywer NOT even close! Why is Kerry lying to the people? Sheesh just read this and you decide if the sanctions were working...

1996 Beginning of Oil-for-Food. Another example of a key infl ection point was the 1996 decision to accept the Oil-for-Food (OFF) program. Internally, Iraq was in trouble. The economy was in tatters. The middle class was decimated by the collapse of the dinar and the impact of sanctions. The hobbling of Saddam by the 1991 cease-fi re resolution, UNSCR 687, was still persisting despite vocal support of some members of the Security Council. Saddam had long refused to accept the option of exporting oil with constraints on revenues. He was concerned that, once started, the pressure on the Security Council to lift sanctions—his real goal—would be lifted. It was clear he was using the pain endured by his people and the concern by some members of the Security Council that sustaining civil destruction as pressure to get the Security Council to remove the sanctions. However, by 1996, it became apparent that the United States had a lock in the Security Council on lifting the sanctions and Saddam accepted UN Security Council Resolution 986 initiating the OFF program.

The onset of the OFF program began what became a burgeoning source of real disposable income. The revenues Iraq garnered grew incredibly from an estimated $250 million in 1996 to $2.76 billion in 2001. The process of oil exports offered leverage in the international oil markets. The UN system for controlling Iraqi oil exports had the unintended consequence of allowing ample opportunities for corruption. Corruption of this process suited the objectives of Saddam of escaping the fetters of the sanctions controlled by the UN Security Council.

download the reports they are huge hope you have broadband!


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraniansanctions; kerry; kerrylies; oilforfood; sanctions; wmdreport

1 posted on 10/07/2004 8:02:20 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: FesterUSMC

I good comeback for Bush is to say that Kerry thinks the murder of millions of Iraqis under a sanction is good bt the deaths of 1000 troops for liberation is bad.


2 posted on 10/07/2004 8:03:49 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i dropped in on)
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Corruption of this process suited the objectives of Saddam of escaping the fetters of the sanctions controlled by the UN Security Council.

BOOM! Where is the media on John Kerry?

3 posted on 10/07/2004 8:06:26 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!)
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To: aft_lizard
Kerry said this report proves sanctions were working... then you read this from the report..."Corruption of this process suited the objectives of Saddam of escaping the fetters of the sanctions controlled by the UN Security Council." DOES NOT SOUND LIKE THE SANCTIONS ARE WORKING TO ME! , IF YOU ESCAPE THE FETTERS OF A SANCTION I WOULD SAY YOUR NOT CONTAINED! LOL
4 posted on 10/07/2004 8:09:12 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!)
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To: FesterUSMC
I have a good feeling Bush is going to hammer Kerry on this.

Apparently Kerry just read the liberal media coverage and not the report itself.

The report specifically states sanctions were not working and Saddam was stockpiling money for WMD's and bribing countries to get sanctions lifted.
5 posted on 10/07/2004 8:15:22 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: FesterUSMC

In his new conference,Kerry basically called Bush Crazy and a liar today.


6 posted on 10/07/2004 8:18:54 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: FesterUSMC

Saddam was going to make weapons when the sanctions were lifted, yet the sanctions weren't working because he was skimming money through the Oil-for-Food program. So, in theory they didn't really need to be lifted ever for him to make the weapons. How can the CIA seriously conclude Saddam wasn't making weapons given the above?
Doesn't it seem more obvious that maybe he WAS making them?


7 posted on 10/07/2004 8:22:36 PM PDT by hansel
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To: nonkultur

I hope Bush tells it like it is ,you are wrong Mr. Kerry ,you made another misstatement Mr.Kerry,Mr.Kerry your statemnet are untrue.Bush needs to step up. I truly wish he would just tell the truth and call Kerry a liar plain and simple.


8 posted on 10/07/2004 8:22:59 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: hansel

I agree with you I still believe this guy had weapons


9 posted on 10/07/2004 8:23:48 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: hansel
Doesn't it seem more obvious that maybe he WAS making them?

DING DING DING!

10 posted on 10/07/2004 8:27:16 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!)
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To: patriciamary

he needs to point this out...


11 posted on 10/07/2004 8:29:06 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!)
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To: patriciamary

I agree with you I still believe this guy had weapons
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Oh yeah, you can't tell me that he just gave them all up to the UN. They are in Syria or Iran, it is just going to take time to find out. And as for Saddam, I hope we are good job extracting information. One day he will crack.


12 posted on 10/07/2004 8:34:01 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Ask Questions. Surf The Net. Find The Truth.)
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To: FesterUSMC

This is from Duelfer's testimony to Congress March 30, 2004.

"Much is known about Iraq’s various efforts to conceal WMD from UNSCOM after the Gulf War in 1991. The ISG, however, has uncovered more details about the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq against UNSCOM and later UNMOVIC. Moreover, these efforts at deception did not end with the departure of inspectors in 1998, and indeed deception continued right up until war in 2003.

The Iraqi Intelligence Service was tasked with monitoring and infiltrating UNSCOM and UNMOVIC. Iraqi officials tell us hundreds of officers from multiple directorates were tasked to monitor the UN officials, employing a spectrum of capabilities from human to electronic surveillance. Elaborate plans were developed and rehearsed to enable sensitive sites to be able to hide sensitive documents and equipment on as little as 15 minutes notice. Iraqi intelligence engaged in a worldwide effort to collect intelligence on the UN, including efforts to recruit sources inside the UN, UNSCOM and UNMOVIC."


13 posted on 10/07/2004 8:35:54 PM PDT by pnz1
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yea, I needs sleep, I have been awake too long! good night guys! :^D Keep digging though the reports TONS OF PAGES! sheesh! 195MB for all 3 parts of the report! doh! LOL i got um all :^D hehe


14 posted on 10/07/2004 8:44:15 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!)
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To: FesterUSMC

Our problem is that the regular voter dont always watch cable or satellite news. Thus, they get only the filtered stuff that comes through the MSM. Which is next to nothing about anything important.


15 posted on 10/07/2004 9:17:13 PM PDT by onyx eyes (............just act normal........)
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