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Obama may have already triggered ideological quake in Ill. GOP
McClatchy Newspapers ^ | September 27, 2004 | Lawrence M. O'Rourke

Posted on 09/28/2004 3:57:34 PM PDT by MikeJ75

Edited on 09/29/2004 7:27:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

BLOOMINGTON, Ill. - Barack Obama, a little-known state senator from Chicago's South Side, shot to public notice this summer when he keynoted the Democratic National Convention in Boston.

Now Obama stands on the edge of election by a landslide to the U.S. Senate. He would become the first black male Democrat elected to the Senate, and overnight he could become a party heavyweight.


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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: electionussenate; keyes; obama; wishfulthinking
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Money quote: "Keyes will lose in a landslide, but his candidacy will make over the Republican Party in Illinois," Thomas Roeser, a GOP analyst, said in an interview. "Keyes is serving as a purgative, driving the moderates out of the party and catching Republicans in Illinois up to the conservative revolution started by Ronald Reagan that passed over Illinois."
1 posted on 09/28/2004 3:57:35 PM PDT by MikeJ75
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To: MikeJ75
"Keyes will lose in a landslide, but his candidacy will make over the Republican Party in Illinois," Thomas Roeser, a GOP analyst, said in an interview. "Keyes is serving as a purgative, driving the moderates out of the party and catching Republicans in Illinois up to the conservative revolution started by Ronald Reagan that passed over Illinois."

Here's to losing the battle and winning the war, then.

2 posted on 09/28/2004 4:00:22 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: MikeJ75

Hope that analysis about the "make over" is true.


3 posted on 09/28/2004 4:01:12 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: MikeJ75
Post #1 is a bunch of gobbledygook. Lets face it Keyes shot his mouth off the first day on the campaign trail and lost the race all by himself. George Ryan can take the blame for the Republican party in Illinois.
4 posted on 09/28/2004 4:06:23 PM PDT by chainsaw (Vote American - Vote for BUSH)
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To: MikeJ75

Yeah you'll drive out the "moderates" and then Illinois will look at lot like California...a small party of purist Republicans who can win no election on their own and then grouse like mad when the Dems roll over them all the time....


5 posted on 09/28/2004 4:07:05 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: MikeJ75

Obama is pro-life. That means he may have already triggered an ideological quake in Illinois RATS - eh?


6 posted on 09/28/2004 4:10:38 PM PDT by Libloather (911th Internet Reconnaissance Brigade - Jammie Commando Battalion)
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To: jnarcus

Keyes should have stayed home.


7 posted on 09/28/2004 4:11:12 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: MikeJ75

Obama is the darling of the press. No one would do well against him unless he does something really nutty.


8 posted on 09/28/2004 4:11:29 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: MikeJ75
He would become the first black male Democrat elected to the Senate

Which means, until Nov. 2nd, only black male republicans have been elected to the Senate.

9 posted on 09/28/2004 4:19:31 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: jnarcus
Yeah you'll drive out the "moderates" and then Illinois will look at lot like California...a small party of purist Republicans who can win no election on their own and then grouse like mad when the Dems roll over them all the time....

Bump for saying what I wanted to, better.

10 posted on 09/28/2004 4:23:03 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Libloather
Obama is pro-life. That means he may have already triggered an ideological quake in Illinois RATS - eh?

Bill Clinton, Algore, and a host of other top democrats were pro-life at the beginning to middle of their policital careers. But once the brass ring of democratic leadership power was seen, they had to ditch it for a pro choice stance to advance their careers.

11 posted on 09/28/2004 4:26:09 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Libloather
Obama is pro-life.

WHAT?!!??!!!

12 posted on 09/28/2004 4:27:23 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: jnarcus
Yeah you'll drive out the "moderates" and then Illinois will look at lot like California...a small party of purist Republicans who can win no election on their own and then grouse like mad when the Dems roll over them all the time....

I couldn't agree more.
13 posted on 09/28/2004 4:28:17 PM PDT by Akira (Experience is a hard teacher, but fools will have no other.)
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To: jnarcus
Yeah you'll drive out the "moderates" and then Illinois will look at lot like California...a small party of purist Republicans who can win no election on their own and then grouse like mad when the Dems roll over them all the time....

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. And for those who are hip-hooraying this, us people who live in this state would rather it not end up like California, thank you very much.

14 posted on 09/28/2004 4:28:43 PM PDT by egarvue (Martin Sheen is not my president...)
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To: MikeJ75

Keyes is a man yielded to God, and thus a conduit with unfathomed potential.


15 posted on 09/28/2004 4:35:22 PM PDT by vessel (How long has your candle been burning? Only you and the light know for sure.)
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To: vessel
Keyes is a man yielded to God, and thus a conduit with unfathomed potential.

Be that as it may, he still needs one vote more than his opponent in order to win election. And he ain't gonna do it here.

17 posted on 09/28/2004 4:50:17 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: madprof98
WHAT?!!??!!!

WHOOPS! I meant to say anti-gay marriage. I hope this doesn't screw up anyone else in Obama's Christian neighborhood...

18 posted on 09/28/2004 4:58:28 PM PDT by Libloather (911th Internet Reconnaissance Brigade - Jammie Commando Battalion)
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To: Non-Sequitur

he may not win...but his attitude inspires others around the country to fight/speak out for whats right and whats wrong in this world


19 posted on 09/28/2004 5:18:01 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: Libloather
Obama is NOT pro-life.

Did you make a typo or something?

He is about as far from it as possible.
20 posted on 09/28/2004 5:27:24 PM PDT by unlearner
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To: chainsaw
Hey, when Keyes started talking about reparations for the families of former slaves..i wrote him off.
21 posted on 09/28/2004 5:28:00 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: sgtbono2002

I agree. The Illinois GOP made a huge mistake and may have just turned Illinois into another California or New York. It was already on the way, but the Illinois GOP just gave it away.


22 posted on 09/28/2004 5:31:32 PM PDT by Eva
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To: MikeJ75
corruption charges against a former Republican governor who faces a trial next year.

At least there is some good news coming out of Illinois - Ryan may just go to jail.

For the Keyes selection has emerged as a triumph of the conservative wing of the Republican Party in Illinois, a branch long angered by Republican moderates, as led for more than a decade by former Gov. James Thompson.

Republican moderates??? Thompson was a RINO, just like Ryan. I've long thought that the only reason he left office after three terms was to avoid being tried for corruption.

23 posted on 09/28/2004 5:37:35 PM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: Eva; sgtbono2002
I suggest you defer to what the conservatives in Illinois see for ourselves.
24 posted on 09/28/2004 5:40:13 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: pbrown

Yup


25 posted on 09/28/2004 5:40:29 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: MikeJ75; JustPiper; Right_Handed_Writer; EternalVigilance; TheRightGuy; cfrels; DMZFrank; ...
Money quote: "Keyes will lose in a landslide, but his candidacy will make over the Republican Party in Illinois," Thomas Roeser, a GOP analyst, said in an interview. "Keyes is serving as a purgative, driving the moderates out of the party and catching Republicans in Illinois up to the conservative revolution started by Ronald Reagan that passed over Illinois."

Well pointed out. Reagan came at the heals of Goldwater. We are taking the high ground here in Illinois and we are Reagan.

Pardon my bad German: Ich bein ien Reaganer!

Only thing, we don't really know that Keyes will lose in a landslide --or even that he will lose, for that matter. "That's why they play the game."

26 posted on 09/28/2004 6:05:23 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Libloather
Obama is pro-life. That means he may have already triggered an ideological quake in Illinois RATS - eh?

Cartoon featured in Chicago Sun-Times and Illinois Leader.

27 posted on 09/28/2004 6:07:57 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Libloather
WHOOPS! I meant to say anti-gay marriage. I hope this doesn't screw up anyone else in Obama's Christian neighborhood...

Exactly. Our Barack, of the "come hither with your pither look," anti gay marriage? Gasp!


28 posted on 09/28/2004 6:11:20 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Libloather
Keyes explained, "What finally caught my eye, however, what finally arrested my attention and forced me to consider whether I not only have the opportunity to oppose [Obama], but the obligation, was when I learned that he had actually, in April 2002, apparently cast a vote that would continue to allow live birth abortions in the State of Illinois."

Obama is pro-infanticide.
29 posted on 09/28/2004 6:14:10 PM PDT by unlearner
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To: unspun

Wake Up, Illinois!

Barack Obama IS the most liberal member of the Illinois Legislature.

If elected, Barack Obama WOULD BE the most liberal member of the United States Senate; to the Left of Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

But you have a great alternative. Ambassador Alan Keyes is a seasoned statesman. He is highly respected on Capitol Hill. When he speaks, Senators and Congressmen listen.

Alan Keyes has worked for years to build a national constituency of conscience which will help make him a highly effective advocate for the State and the people of Illinois in the Senate.

Alan Keyes will be a force to be reckoned with in the areas of fundamental tax reform, the elimination of government waste, and in promoting economic prosperity and job growth.

Alan Keyes is a highly regarded expert on foreign policy, defense, security and intelligence matters. He is known and respected by world leaders. What could be more important in this time when we must fight the worldwide War on Terror?

And finally, Alan Keyes is fully committed to the long-term project of reforming politics and government in Illinois.

Ignore the polls…
Ignore the pundits…
Vote for the best man…

Not a single ballot has yet been cast.
We are still registering Bush/Keyes voters.

With your help,
Alan Keyes can win!

Contact Tom at: keyesgrassroots@yahoo.com

PS...I don't care where you live in the country. If you want to help change Illinois and defeat the socialist Obama, I have something for you to do. EV


30 posted on 09/28/2004 6:16:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: unspun
"We usually have a big turnout in presidential years, but a lot of Republicans will stay home this year because Bush isn't making an effort here and many suburban Republicans don't want to vote for Keyes," said Pete Couvall, vice chairman of the Lake County Democratic Party.

Call me crazy, but I think a lot of people are going to vote for Keyes. I'm not ready to write him off.

I think people in this state are sick to death of liberalism, and a lot of them will vote "ABB - anybody but barak". Besides, his name is too close to osama. What a stark reminder of what happens when rats are allowed free rein!

31 posted on 09/28/2004 7:26:23 PM PDT by Rollee (John Kerry = Prince of Dorkness)
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To: jnarcus

In case you are unclear about what has happened here let me inform you that the party's destruction has been entirely at the hands of the moderates whose corruption is rarely exceeded by the RATS themselves.


32 posted on 09/28/2004 8:03:55 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My father is 10X the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: egarvue

So you slept through the Reign of George the Corrupt? He completed the destruction of the present party. If that is "moderation" I have no use for it.


33 posted on 09/28/2004 8:06:04 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My father is 10X the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: pbrown

That's what I was referring too.


34 posted on 09/29/2004 3:54:09 AM PDT by chainsaw (Vote American - Vote for BUSH)
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To: unspun
"That's why they play the game."

Thank you Chris Berman ;-)

35 posted on 09/29/2004 4:41:57 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: unspun

I hope the Keyes campaign is making the most of that ad! (#28)


36 posted on 09/29/2004 4:46:03 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Libloather
Obama is pro-life.

Unfortunately, Obama is pro-death On three occasions he has failed to vote for restrictions on even "live birth" abortions. He's never met a fetus he wouldn't kill.

37 posted on 09/29/2004 5:42:47 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: EternalVigilance; unspun

38 posted on 09/29/2004 5:45:06 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: EternalVigilance
This registered Illinois republican will vote for Bush and keyes in November.

I think Keyes has a chance with Bush and RNC support.

He needs lots of publicity and needs to highlight Obama's amazingly liberal record. Keyes will do the second part. We have to pay for the first part.

I'm hoping for a Bush landslide that will depress the Illinois Democrat turnout and lift the Republican turn out.

I'd like a 10 pt poll lead or more on election day.

I'll keep praying.
39 posted on 09/29/2004 12:47:28 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (The Passion of the Christ--the top non-fiction movie of all time)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

I love ya!

:-)


40 posted on 09/29/2004 1:32:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: unspun

Obama, according to one published poll, has pulled to a nearly 3-to-1 lead over Keyes.



Howard Dean, according to one published poll, has pulled to a nearly 3-to-1 lead over Kerry.

Want to talk about POLLS????????????????????????


41 posted on 09/29/2004 1:38:37 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
I'll keep praying

Prayer helps ... so does knocking on doors, registering voter, and myriad other things that might occupy your time.

42 posted on 09/29/2004 2:47:43 PM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: egarvue
Couldn't have said it better myself. And for those who are hip-hooraying this, us people who live in this state would rather it not end up like California, thank you very much.

You mean California, where liberal 'purists' run almost everything?

When you figure out how 'purists' from the other side manage to get into power, while we wring our hands about 'purists' on our side, let me know.

43 posted on 09/29/2004 2:59:53 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: chicagolady; Admin Moderator; RedBloodedAmerican; Chad Fairbanks; Doohickey; ...
Obama, according to one published poll, has pulled to a nearly 3-to-1 lead over Keyes. Howard Dean, according to one published poll, has pulled to a nearly 3-to-1 lead over Kerry. Want to talk about POLLS????????????????????????

What is amazing is that in FreeRepublic.com, no less, and after all the warnings, there are those who must hate Alan Keyes so much, they campaign against him, right along with anti-American Barack Obama and the DU-types.

They engage and distract conservatives from campaigning for our conservative candidates. They despoil a thread intended by a conservative, to encourage other conservatives, to campaign for a conservative, against an extreme liberal

Isn't there a rule against that? Something about being a troller or disruptor?

Very sad, for them.

44 posted on 09/29/2004 7:00:52 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: chicagolady; Admin Moderator; RedBloodedAmerican; Chad Fairbanks; Doohickey; ...

They despoil a thread intended by a conservative, to encourage other conservatives, to campaign for a conservative, against an extreme liberal:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1229892/posts?page=273


45 posted on 09/29/2004 7:02:19 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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and after all the warnings

How very anti-Free Speech of you.

46 posted on 09/29/2004 7:08:36 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: unspun; malakhi

Funny, different people's perspectives. I kind of thought that thread went downhill when a Keyes supporter told someone to go to hell for asking a question that required a 'yes or no' answer.

Not only are we expected to STHU, we are also expected to take that kind of treatment and not respond - and now you find it appropriate to ping a mod to the thread to try to get people suspended or banned, but not a WORD about that sort of abuse.

Naturally.


47 posted on 09/29/2004 7:13:58 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
when a Keyes supporter told someone to go to hell

I always find that sort of behavior disturbing from someone who is claiming to be a Christian supporting the Christian candidate...

48 posted on 09/29/2004 7:19:05 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: chainsaw
"Lets face it Keyes shot his mouth off the first day on the campaign trail and lost the race all by himself."

Yeah, and so had Custer at Little Big Horn.

49 posted on 09/29/2004 7:19:31 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Howlin; Chad Fairbanks; RedBloodedAmerican; Doohickey
Not only are we expected to STHU, we are also expected to take that kind of treatment and not respond - and now you find it appropriate to ping a mod to the thread to try to get people suspended or banned, but not a WORD about that sort of abuse.

I don't know of the incident you mentioned and it doesn't matter.

Pinging admin and JR doesn't mean I'm seeking nor have the power to call for anyone's banishment.

I'm simply pointing out that it is very unwise, counterproductive, and just about surreal, to campaign against conservatives (and therefore, the conservative cause) on a conservative site --unless one wants to be disruptive of these.

50 posted on 09/29/2004 7:19:50 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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