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Edwards Hits Bush On Ken Lay Links
CBS News ^ | 7/12/04

Posted on 07/12/2004 8:01:48 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: Bahbah
Edwards: "...and put our economy back in line with our values."

Bahbah: Now just what the heck is that supposed to mean? John Edwards sued doctors because there was money in it, not out of any belief in "values".

Its the politics of meaning, don'tcha know! It means whatever he and the media wants it to mean, and the brain-dead morons who follow that party suck it up.

21 posted on 07/12/2004 8:28:40 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (Rest in peace, sultan88)
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To: areafiftyone

Dems were insisting all along that the Bush admin would be soft on Enron, wouldn't aggressively prosecute, etc. So now that virtually all of the Enron execs have been indicted, they are saying it didn't happen fast enough or that it proves Bush kept bad company. All this coming from the defenders of Clinton, who saw several of his direct busines partners jailed for fraud and embezzlement. This is why I'm no longer a Democrat - I detest their shameless, 24/7 spinning, changing the argument when the first argument is proven false.


22 posted on 07/12/2004 8:29:40 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: areafiftyone

Bush just can't win. The Democrats claim that he could have arrested Osama Ben Laden long ago but that he's putting it off for political reasons.


23 posted on 07/12/2004 8:30:47 AM PDT by bayourod (Kerry, the human downer, knows the words to "optimism" but can't quite get the tune right.)
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To: ICX

The Kerry campaign must have poll-tested this attack on Enron. Otherwise it is just stupid. I don't believe the media will give them a pass on this one. It takes years to set up a case like this against a principal of a corporation. An analogy was the HUD scandal years ago, when the special prosecutor started with underlings and worked his way up the chain, or even the Watergate investigation. I assume the Bush campaign is just setting up Edwards on this one and waiting until either the debate with Cheney or some other opportune moment to nail him with the truth. But I hope they do not wait that long.


24 posted on 07/12/2004 8:33:07 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: AZConcervative
I find it difficult to believe that I am smarter than the half of this country that does not see this.

Whether you're smarter or not, you're paying attention, and most people don't. And when the media don't connect the dots and ask the obvious questions that we ask, the public remains in the dark.
25 posted on 07/12/2004 8:34:30 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: areafiftyone
"It took three long years to see Ken Lay handcuffed and indicted for what he did."

This is a totally irresponsible thing for him to say, but it sure makes for a pretty soundbite, doesn't it?

26 posted on 07/12/2004 8:36:21 AM PDT by LincolnLover (LSU: 2003 National Football Champions, GEAUXING FOR TWO in 2004!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Edwards is a worm.
First of all if Bush was tied to Lay why was Lay arrested by the FBI?
If I am not mistaken Lay has been up to his tricks for quite some time even under the CLinton Admin.
However, it is the Justice Dept. under Bush that had him arrested and charged.
Thats all.
Case Closed.


27 posted on 07/12/2004 8:39:12 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: areafiftyone

Gee, a trial lawyer like Eddie should realize that the prosecution only gets ONE chance to convict someone in a criminal case. It certainly makes more sense, then, to take the necessary time to build a solid case against Lay than to rush into an indictment and a trial without a solid case and see him go free. Of course, if there had been a speedier indictment followed by an acquittal, Eddie would have been whining about that too.


28 posted on 07/12/2004 8:43:27 AM PDT by stremba
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To: areafiftyone

CALL THE LAWYERS !!


29 posted on 07/12/2004 8:47:10 AM PDT by traumer
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To: OldFriend

Daddy Edwards using his little kids....


30 posted on 07/12/2004 8:55:42 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: areafiftyone
Note to Edwards: Junior, the Oil For Food scandal is far greater. How come not a peep out of you about that?
31 posted on 07/12/2004 8:58:41 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Carolinamom

Considering their ages, isn't that why they had them?


32 posted on 07/12/2004 8:59:20 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
Looks that way. Edwards has said that he entered politics because he had promised his diseased son Wade that he would. Ergo...little ones born to Elizabeth at age 48 and 50 to both ease the pain of loss and the beginning political career. To say he's been put on the fast track is an understatement.

If he can't or won't do the job NC elected him to do, how in heck is he going "work" as VP?

33 posted on 07/12/2004 9:07:52 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: areafiftyone

Lest Edwards forgets, a Democrat, namely one DNC Chairman Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT) was almost singlehandedly responsible for shephering legislation through Congress to remove the barriers to accounting firms (like Arthur Anderson) from serving as both auditors and advisors to the same company.

He also removed protections for defrauded investors to recover their money and proposed deregulation in the guise of tort reform. I am sure plenty of Republicans supported it (see Billy Tauzin), but is was spearheaded by a Democrat. Lieberman was in bed with this legislation as well, but not to the extent Dodd was.

From http://multinationalmonitor.org/hyper/mm0196.12.html, 1/96:

A BITTER LEGISLATIVE FIGHT erupted last year over securities "reform," a measure which will make it difficult for investors to recover their money when defrauded by financial swindlers. The man most responsible for winning approval for the bill, which passed last December over President Clinton's veto, was Senator Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, the chair of the Democratic National Committee.

Dodd is the second biggest recipient of contributions from business groups pushing the securities legislation -- namely Wall Street, accountants and high-tech firms -- raking in more than $80,000 between 1991 and 1995. Last October, Ben Stein wrote an article for the American Spectator in which he recounted a conversation he had with an accountant at a Washington fundraiser: "'You must love Chris Dodd,' I said. 'He's been fighting for you guys for a long time. You must have given him a ton of money.' 'A ton,' he said eagerly. 'But he earned it'."

Democratic support for the bill was initially tepid, but Dodd lined up at least 10 votes. Dodd carries special weight with colleagues because, as head of the DNC, he controls the flow of campaign money which will be made available to Democratic senators up for re-election in 1996.

Dodd's spokesperson, Marvin Fast, says charges that the senator was working on behalf of his campaign contributors are "absolute bunk." Fast adds, "He [Dodd] took action because there was a problem in the industry. It was a bipartisan solution because people on both sides of the aisle recognized that the problem existed."

From PBS of all places:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/regulation/congress/

Although President Clinton vetoed the bill, called the Private Securities and Litigation Reform Act of 1995, asserting that it would close the courthouse door on investors with legitimate claims, the Senate -- led by Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), chairman of the Democratic National Committee -- overturned the president's veto in December 1995. Sen. Dodd received almost a quarter of a million dollars in political donations from the accounting industry in the 1995-96 election cycle, although he was not up for re-election.

"Chris Dodd, here he is chairman of the Democratic Party, but he's also the leading advocate in the U.S. Senate on behalf of the accounting industry," says Charles Lewis of the Center for Public Integrity. "And he helps overturn the veto of his own president, who installed him as Democratic chairman. Dodd might as well have been on the accounting industry's payroll. He couldn't have helped them any more than he did as a U.S. Senator."

From Pittsburglive.com
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/datelinedc/s_16479.html

"Eight committees on Capitol Hill began their attempt to unravel the web of criminal deceit that ensnared Enron and its accountancy firm of Arthur Andersen. Dodd, Andersen's protector, once known as "The Sensual Senator," a role he abandoned for fatherhood recently, has for the past seven years also been well paid by the accountancy and securities industry generally. Of course, as his integrity further declined, so his campaign funds prospered to about $200,000 a year.

If Enron's CEO Ken Lay is indicted, it would only be seemly for Dodd to be charged as an accessory before the event.


Even for pudgy Dodd that is a lot of free lunch money, and another substantial reason why his Democratic Party can't hang the Enron scandal on the Republican Party.

DODD'S FLIP

In 1995, Chris Dodd, with Democrats in the House of Representatives, took the lead in defeating legislation that would have prevented a company's accountant, such as Arthur Andersen, from also serving as its business consultant. This year, Dodd changed course and became a bold advocate for the small shareholder. He has introduced legislation reversing his past efforts while hoping for silence about his deceptions."


Even though Edwards is too young to remember, the Private Securities and Litigation Reform Act of 1995 was supported by Kerry, effectively screwing the shareholder in order to favor his big corporate special interest friends. And Johnny Chung LOVED Kerry.......


34 posted on 07/12/2004 9:33:53 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (Al Queda, Al Jazeera, Al Gore, Al Franken: the four horsemen of the Apocalypse)
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To: Carolinamom

The stupid party continues to adequately deal with this cr@p. All that needs to be said is Bill Clinton and his administration acted affirmatively on something lke 18 or 20 requests for assistance. That was done through EO, proposed legislation, IMF loans, etc.


35 posted on 07/12/2004 9:34:57 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter

"continues to fail to adequately deal with this cr@p."


36 posted on 07/12/2004 9:36:31 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Carolinamom

Kind of sad how the eldest daughter, who lost her sibling, is shoved to the background and ignored.


37 posted on 07/12/2004 10:18:46 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: areafiftyone

Absolutely...Teeerrrraaaazzzzaaa and Lay both sat on various boards so Breck Girl better cool it....(just because Edwards is a trial lawyer doesn't make him smart).


38 posted on 07/12/2004 10:33:32 AM PDT by smiley
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To: OldFriend

Yesterday, I saw Kerry & Edwards walk off the stage, arms entwined w/Elizabeth coming behind holding the little girl's hand. Little John was left to come along by himself. Nowhere in sight was his biggest sister. No wonder he sucks his thumb. Sad.


39 posted on 07/12/2004 11:00:35 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Carolinamom
Between Heinz, jr walking along behind kerrygirl nearly nude, the whole bunch give me the creeps.

I guess when you are a billionaire no one dares to tell you that you're nuts and it seems to me that Terraaayyyzzaa is truly out of her mind. Sheesh......

40 posted on 07/12/2004 11:26:24 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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