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Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission (Joe Wilson lied about EVERYTHING)
Washington Compost ^ | 7/10/04 | Susan Schmidt

Posted on 07/10/2004 1:49:22 AM PDT by thoughtomator

Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, dispatched by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq sought to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program with uranium from Africa, was specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly.

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Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

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To: David Isaac

Some of our pubs do not possess the morale courage to what is right. One old cliche, we do not want to stoop to their level. Why would the CIA send in a person who possesses no experience in the first. Summation, as mentioned dimmycrats trying to create chaos for, President Bush. Bush/Cheny 2004


41 posted on 07/10/2004 5:22:56 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run)
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To: Stallone

"A leak gave Novak his answer: Wilson's wife, a CIA weapons of mass destruction operative, asked for him to be sent there. This answer suggested nepotism; in fact, Wilson was paid only for his travel expenses - undertaking the assignment because he was qualified, and a willing public servant. It may have even suggested, to some, a sinister plot to make sure the Niger uranium claim was discredited."


Joe Wilson said he did not know who sent him and he would not recognize them if he met them on the street.


42 posted on 07/10/2004 5:25:20 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Shermy


In the event you have not read.


43 posted on 07/10/2004 5:26:13 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: zook
This is as much as I dare excerpt:

The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame "offered up" Wilson's name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA's Directorate of Operations saying her husband "has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.

Wilson has asserted that his wife was not involved in the decision to send him to Niger.

"Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson wrote in a memoir published this year. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip."

Wilson stood by his assertion in an interview yesterday, saying Plame was not the person who made the decision to send him. Of her memo, he said: "I don't see it as a recommendation to send me."

44 posted on 07/10/2004 5:26:48 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: David Isaac; nathanbedford
Some people have noticed that the GOP has not really been very good about pointing out and fighting a great many of the Democrat's sins. Opposition party?

I resemble that remark, as I'm one of those who feel that way. In partial response I offer the next post in this train.

Add to all this the recent news that the uranium story does have foundation in fact and we have a good opportunity for the GOP to expose this as a model of gotcha journalism and pack mentality seems invariably to be directed at Republicans.

Bush had a big speech in Pennsylvania yesterday that was all the rage on this forum, many stating that "Bush was on fire". Well, he may have been, but he was preaching to the choir and while from the postings it sounds like he got in a couple of zingers, it was hard to tell how far they went since typical of FR posters, there's more "gee whiz, we're winning" posts and precious little substantive observations as such on what they were watching.

I didn't hear that Bush mentioned the movies of Saddam's hell-hole prisons and tortures (that was the only "circus and playground" scenes most Iraqi's were aware of - take that, MM). I didn't hear that Bush quoted the Clintons, Kennedy and Kerry on Saddam's WMD and the need to rid the world of his threats, nothing on the uranium, nothing on Gorelick's memo handcuffing the intelligence community, etc., etc.

So for a voter sitting on the sidelines with all the liberal, media, Democrat charges against Bush, where is the response? Sure Kerry flip flops, sure he voted for the war before he voted against it, but what about these charges? (1) did Bush lie to the American public? (NO), (2) was the invasion of Iraq an optional war? (NO), (3) did Husseain grind up his victims alive, drop them from buildings, rape and kill children in front of their parents? (YES, YES, YES), (4) did Hussein help and support bin Laden in his attack on the US? (NOT ONLY YES but HELL YES), and (5) are the Iraq people better off now than under Saddam (YES). And as proof all Bush needs to do is cite the evidence that has come to light since we invaded Iraq that the media has been ignoring.

That's the kind of fireworks from him We need to see.

45 posted on 07/10/2004 5:29:25 AM PDT by capocchio (Now that Bush has lit the match, he needs to light the fireworks)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath


And of course, the frog-faced Democrat Novak was happy to oblige the hatchers of this anti-Bush plot.
The report released yesterday was the one written months before this sham senate "investigation" started by the Dems who said they would use it to get the President. Only the dummies put it into an open access computer and the Republican staffers found it. The only one to suffer in this charade was the Republican staffer who was fired! Not one media person mentioned this when the report was released yesterday. I was very disappointed at Fox. Maybe Britt, who was off, would have brought it up, but most of the script readers at Fox aren't up to the job.


46 posted on 07/10/2004 5:34:13 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: thoughtomator

No! Really? I'd never thought that! (/dripping sarcasm)


47 posted on 07/10/2004 5:36:23 AM PDT by Maigrey ( If you disagree with {Kerry} on most any issue, you may just have caught him on the wrong day. -GWB)
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To: David Isaac
"Some people have noticed that the GOP has not really been very good about pointing out and fighting a great many of the Democrat's sins. Opposition party?"

How, exactly, would the GOP get the story out? Get DanTomPeter to highlight it on their nightly DNC infomercials? There is no widespread media outlet for conservative views or GOP rebuttals. The "useful idiots" are getting their constant indoctrination from the Dems via the mass media. Fox, Rush, Sean, etc are preaching to the choir.

48 posted on 07/10/2004 5:39:12 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Quisling - from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a synonym for "traitor")
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To: thoughtomator

Another liberal leader lieing to himself and others.


49 posted on 07/10/2004 5:40:36 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: capocchio
since typical of FR posters, there's more "gee whiz, we're winning" posts and precious little substantive observations as such on what they were watching.

I have been so posting for months and have been excoriated daily as a DUer for my pains.

We do in fact have a good story to tell but we don't know how to tell a story good.

51 posted on 07/10/2004 5:48:05 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: kristinn
Of her memo, he said: "I don't see it as a recommendation to send me."

In other words, it depends on what the meaning of "is" is. Democrats such as Clinton and Wilson have turned the art of the baldfaced lie into a science.

52 posted on 07/10/2004 5:50:51 AM PDT by The Electrician
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To: kristinn; maica
This is a brutal article. It should have been on page one. Wilson's credibility is blown to hell--he's even called out for "misleading" The Washington Post.

It seems that negative stories about this were on page 1 many, many times. It was also a 48 times a day network radio news item several times. It is so frustrating that the truth gets so little publicity. I wonder if it will be mentioned at all on tomorrow's talking head shows.

53 posted on 07/10/2004 6:00:18 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Jeff Gannon

Ping! Anything you know about this???


54 posted on 07/10/2004 6:00:20 AM PDT by Maigrey ( If you disagree with {Kerry} on most any issue, you may just have caught him on the wrong day. -GWB)
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To: The Electrician

When you parade your hottie wife around D.C. parties and get her a photo spread in Vanity Fair, one must maintain appearances.


55 posted on 07/10/2004 6:01:38 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: capocchio
Bush was strong in every point in that speech, yet he has one big weak spot -- in his philosophy and his actions -- "free trade". "Opening up for free trade" is NOT morality. That does NOT add a nation to the tier of moral, lawful, free nations.

Speaking of weak and strong, just how many tea drinkers are there in Washington?

The Chinese claim to have invented tea. Emperor Shen Nung and all that rot. I've heard a better claim that tea was invented in an island province off of China -- a island with s distinct culture and langugage independent of China.

As always the big swallow the small unless LAW is respected, so that claim is lost except among the few surviving small found among the dust of the earth.

Free trade is lawless, and far from being a lever to improvement is more effeciently a slide to depravity and lawlessness. Better to support one's nieghbors job first -- has Mr. Bush forgotten that?

Prepare the tea, slaves -- for the EMPEROR!

56 posted on 07/10/2004 6:04:11 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Freee-dame

We'll just have to wait and see. I wonder if Drudge has this linked?


57 posted on 07/10/2004 6:04:51 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: nathanbedford
We do in fact have a good story to tell but we don't know how to tell a story good.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I hope you did not think my post was knocking anything you said on yours, as you'll note that I was actually using what you said in support of my comments.

I have noted posts from time to time asking that Bush do more, but it appears our views are in the minority. I think many on FR get awfully complacent by just reading here and not really listening to what even many Republicans, to say nothing of true "undecideds" are actually saying.

Those voices need to be heard and the message actually directed at them. Bush too often stops short of making a direct response to the media and to Democrats.

58 posted on 07/10/2004 6:09:17 AM PDT by capocchio (Bush has pulled the finger on one glove off, he'd better remove both gloves before this is over)
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To: thoughtomator

Here is what really gripes me...:

The intel reports concluded Iraq was "trying to buy urainium".
Wilson's report stated he'd "found no evidence Iraq had bought urainium".

Anybody see a difference here??????

Was Iraq TRYING????
Wilson's report is a lie!


59 posted on 07/10/2004 6:22:57 AM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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To: nopardons
The real problem is once false allegations are printed and put into the news a certain amount of people who first heard them don't get the correction.
It is time to hold the news media and politicians accountable.
It happened to me and once it does it is too late the damage is done.When it take 8 years to get the truth out it is very late.
The Democrats very well could win this election through lies and deception simply because of all the uneducated people in this country believing their false malicious lies.
The Democrat Party in my opinion are nothing more than a bunch of scum,liars and Communist!I hope to live long enough to be involved in the physical confrontation that will eventually come about, however I doubt it. Lawyers already contol 75% of our country and once they control the Supreme Court America will come under a dictator.They are a monoply and we need to take our country back from them.
60 posted on 07/10/2004 6:29:28 AM PDT by gunnedah
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