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Help me, I'm a Muslim, stricken BBC reporter cried
SMH ^ | June 8, 2004 | SMH

Posted on 06/07/2004 9:12:12 AM PDT by Eurotwit

Riddled with bullets, BBC correspondent Frank Gardner pleaded for his life in the Saudi capital shouting to bystanders to help a fellow Muslim, a police officer told AFP yesterday.

"I'm a Muslim, help me, I'm a Muslim, help me," the British father of two daughters cried in Arabic, the officer said.

Gardner was stretched on the road, covered in blood from multiple bullet wounds in a slum area of southern Riyadh known as a hotbed of hardliners.

A fluent Arabic speaker with a degree in Arab and Islamic Studies, he was carrying a small copy of the Koran, the Muslim holy book, a device used by Westerner reporters to try to reassure Islamist militants.

He was gravely wounded and his Irish cameraman Simon Cumbers killed Sunday evening as they filmed near the home of Ibrahim al-Rayyes, a wanted terror suspect killed in a clash with security forces in the area last December.

Gardner was in a coma yesterday at King Faisal Specialist Hospital after undergoing emergency surgery.

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Advertisement "He is in a coma and very critical," one doctor said, adding however that bleeding had stopped and "he has improved in the last six hours."

The 42-year-old was hit by many bullets to the stomach and feet and transferred to the capital's Al-Iman Hospital.

Saudi newspapers reported that the gunmen had left him for dead.

"Frank is in a critical but stable condition in intensive care after surgery," a British embassy spokesperson told AFP earlier yesterday.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bbc; journalists; saudiarabia; warcorrespondents
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1 posted on 06/07/2004 9:12:13 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

He shoulda yelled out the code words before they shot him.


2 posted on 06/07/2004 9:13:33 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: Eurotwit
A fluent Arabic speaker with a degree in Arab and Islamic Studies...

I guess they don't teach everything in school.

3 posted on 06/07/2004 9:13:52 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Eurotwit
Advertisement "He is in a coma and very critical,"

Wow! What are they selling?

4 posted on 06/07/2004 9:15:14 AM PDT by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: Monty22
The code words work unless your killers think you are a hypocrit.

That's another little understood rule of Islam ~ that Moslems don't kill other Moslems unless they feel like it.

5 posted on 06/07/2004 9:15:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Eurotwit

6 posted on 06/07/2004 9:16:43 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Eurotwit; F14 Pilot

Bump


7 posted on 06/07/2004 9:17:43 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: muawiyah

Yeah, I know.. Death, death, and more death is all they offer to themselves and us.


8 posted on 06/07/2004 9:17:52 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: Eurotwit

What a shame. I must mourn for awhile.

Well that was long enough.


9 posted on 06/07/2004 9:18:03 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Eurotwit

So he begged for help from "fellow Muslims" - did they offer him help? How long did he lie in the street before being transported to a hospital?


10 posted on 06/07/2004 9:21:22 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Eurotwit

will the BBC characterize this as an "attack"?


11 posted on 06/07/2004 9:24:14 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: Eurotwit
Riddled with bullets, BBC correspondent Frank Gardner pleaded for his life in the Saudi capital shouting to bystanders to help a fellow Muslim, a police officer told AFP yesterday.

Maybe simply being muslim isn't enough for these terrorists. Maybe they didn't like the way he looked.

12 posted on 06/07/2004 9:25:56 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Eurotwit
You'd think the article might point out whether or not the guy actually was a Muslim. I mean, does one typically proclaim one's faith in order to obtain rescue? Or was the poor bastard so cynical that he thought attaching himself to Islam would help his chances?

Either way, what does it tell us that a man riddled with bullets would need to claim his "Islamicity" in order to be helped by random bystanders? If he proclaimed himself a Christian, can we assume they would have shot him some more?

13 posted on 06/07/2004 9:27:46 AM PDT by Mr. Bird (Ain't the beer cold!)
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To: BrooklynGOP

What's the deal with that footage--an Arab TV station "just happened" to be there when these guys were shot?


14 posted on 06/07/2004 9:28:10 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: Mr. Bird
"I mean, does one typically proclaim one's faith in order to obtain rescue?"

Yes, this is not uncommon in Islam. I have Muslim relatives who were going to travel in the ME shortly after 9/11. They told me this is what they would say ("I am a Muslim.") if they were ever threatened for having U.S. citizenship or "looking like Americans".

15 posted on 06/07/2004 9:30:53 AM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: Eurotwit

Terrorists don't care one way or the other about muslims. Its just a standard excuse like blaming America. The only "good muslims" in the eyes of the terrorists are those who are actively killing anyone who isn't a terrorist.


16 posted on 06/07/2004 9:31:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: Eurotwit

An attack on a BBC Muslim? Gee, I feel just terrible about this. I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! S/O.


17 posted on 06/07/2004 9:32:56 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: Eurotwit

An undated BBC handout picture shows their British journalist Frank Gardner. who was shot and injured in the Saudi capital Riyadh June 6, 2004. Gunmen fired at a two-man BBC crew in an Islamist militant area of Riyadh on Sunday, killing Irish cameraman Simon Cumber and severely wounding Gardner. (EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO SALES. NO ARCHIVE) REUTERS/BBC TV via Reuters Television

18 posted on 06/07/2004 9:36:18 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Mr. Bird

Your post expresses my thoughts very well.


19 posted on 06/07/2004 9:36:49 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Eurotwit

Why should muslims care if they kill other muslims anyway? More muslims have been killed by fellow muslims than any other nationality or faith.


20 posted on 06/07/2004 9:37:46 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
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To: BrooklynGOP
Gardner was stretched on the road, covered in blood from multiple bullet wounds in a slum area of southern Riyadh known as a hotbed of hardliners.

Covered in blood?

21 posted on 06/07/2004 9:39:31 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Here is is delivering the news... Naww, just kidding.

In all seriousness, this is sad, and I feel awful for this guy and his family. Pretty disgusting that to get help one needs to proclaim ones muslimality.

22 posted on 06/07/2004 9:42:39 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Eurotwit
"I'm a Muslim, help me, I'm a Muslim, help me," the British father of two daughters cried in Arabic, the officer said.

So the b@st@rd expects help because he is a Muslim? He belongs with the rest of the porkophobes who would not offer help to an Infidel, dead.

23 posted on 06/07/2004 9:43:11 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some know what's good for others, some make goods for others; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: Mr. Bird
Either way, what does it tell us that a man riddled with bullets would need to claim his "Islamicity" in order to be helped by random bystanders?

Yep... one's religion shouldn't make a squat's worth of difference if they are hurt or suffering.... at least to civilized people.

24 posted on 06/07/2004 9:48:06 AM PDT by Tamzee (Noonan on Reagan, "...his leadership changed the world... As president, he was a giant.")
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To: Americanwolf

Ping


25 posted on 06/07/2004 9:49:09 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Eurotwit
he was carrying a small copy of the Koran, the Muslim holy book, a device used by Westerner reporters to try to reassure Islamist militants.

A better device would be a koran hollowed out to hold a pistol.

Kevlar book-cover wouldn't be a bad idea, either.

26 posted on 06/07/2004 9:50:46 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: Eurotwit

The very fact that he uttered those words show that he knows that Muslims want to kill non-Muslims.

Sickening.


27 posted on 06/07/2004 9:51:30 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Eurotwit

His western features and British accent must have confused the passers-by.


28 posted on 06/07/2004 9:53:25 AM PDT by rabidralph (I'm the Budweiser Donkey, and I approved this message.)
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To: Eurotwit
Some muslim this guy is, aren't they supposed to "love death as much as the infidel loves life"? He should've been jumping for joy.

I wonder if the BBC will protest the coincidence that a camera crew just happened to be there to catch it. That would be some lovely irony.
29 posted on 06/07/2004 10:03:24 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: TexKat
I'm re-al sorry. I shouldn't post this. I should feel bad for the guy. But the situation just demands it:


30 posted on 06/07/2004 10:12:39 AM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: wingnutx

I also can't help being reminded of what Nick Berg's father said about his killers: "They had no idea they were killing the best friend they ever had."


31 posted on 06/07/2004 10:14:01 AM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: Eurotwit
He should have apologized for getting in the way of their bullets.
32 posted on 06/07/2004 10:15:00 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Eurotwit
Saudi newspapers reported that the gunmen had left him for dead.

No virgins this time.

33 posted on 06/07/2004 10:20:20 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: Eurotwit
"I'm a Muslim, help me, I'm a Muslim, help me," the British father of two daughters cried in Arabic, the officer said.

I guess the Islamic types never read the "Good Samaritan" parable in the Bible...
34 posted on 06/07/2004 10:26:37 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: Eurotwit
I like the concept of "Saudi gunmen." They were actually the Saudi counterpart of the students at Berkeley who are the children of wealthy professionals. The Saudi gunmen who got away so often and so easily are most certainly young idealists, related to Saudi royalty. They are above the Saudi criminal system and can do pretty much what they like. Some Saudi princes may be able to control them but not the Saudi police or military.

More important here, however, is how they boke the code and discovered that the BBC reporter, like so many BBC and Reuters reporters in the Middle East, was an agent of some Israeli intelligence service. Sure, they write with a constant anti-American and anti-Israeli bias but that is just for cover. Any one know how the Saudi princes to be broke the cover of these reporters?

35 posted on 06/07/2004 10:32:26 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: Eurotwit
Sad situation here!

However, how many Freepers would have have helped this injured man? Bet it would have been a greater number than the muslims in his immediate area.

I know if our soldiers were in the area, they would have risked life and limb to help! This fact alone should shame anyone of islamic faith.

36 posted on 06/07/2004 10:34:21 AM PDT by Dacus943
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To: justshutupandtakeit
What a shame. I must mourn for awhile.

Well that was long enough.

Great...now everyone in my cubicle farm is wondering why I was just laughing like a moron and now cleaning Pepsi off of my keyboard.

37 posted on 06/07/2004 10:34:56 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: Eurotwit

how sad...people must have left him there not knowing he's a muslim and I believe it's against koranic law not to aide a fellow muslim.


38 posted on 06/07/2004 10:36:21 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Tacis

What are you saying, really? Is this part of the Jooos ruling the world? I've never heard this before. Please cite references.


39 posted on 06/07/2004 10:53:21 AM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: Eurotwit

well, now he's stuck. he's made the declaration and he's got to spend the rest of his life being muslim or they'll shoot him again.

Mrs VS


40 posted on 06/07/2004 10:56:58 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Eurotwit
If everyone in the western world in 1939 had converted to NAZIism, World War II could have been finished in a month or so.

Appeasement will be the death of us yet.

41 posted on 06/07/2004 11:02:12 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Eurotwit

How hard it must be to work in a part of the world where one must qualify one's self to get any mercy.


42 posted on 06/07/2004 11:06:55 AM PDT by freepy smurf (Brought to you by The Frog Council. 'Frog: the other green meat.')
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To: VeritatisSplendor
well, now he's stuck. he's made the declaration and he's got to spend the rest of his life being muslim or they'll shoot him again.

That's too good -- now I'm sneezing coffee.

43 posted on 06/07/2004 11:09:24 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Eurotwit

They didn't believe he was sincere, because he showered more than once a week, on was known to use soap on those occasions.


44 posted on 06/07/2004 11:16:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: Mr. Bird

>If he proclaimed himself a Christian, can we assume they >would have shot him some more?

Uhhh, yeah.


45 posted on 06/07/2004 11:49:16 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Mears

>The very fact that he uttered those words show that he >knows that Muslims want to kill non-Muslims.

Good point, and I suppose in a nice chatty coffee table discussion with his fellow liberal British friends back in jolly ole England, he would have assured them that TRUE Muslims only want peace.


46 posted on 06/07/2004 11:52:59 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: bobjam
will the BBC characterize this as an "attack"?

If you read about this on the BBC website you will notice that this is one of the rare occasions in which the BBC do not refer to the gunmen as 'militants'.

47 posted on 06/07/2004 12:06:52 PM PDT by Geronimo
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To: reagan_fanatic
Why should muslims care if they kill other muslims anyway? More muslims have been killed by fellow muslims than any other nationality or faith.

AQ's main battles in Afstan was against other Muslims.

48 posted on 06/07/2004 12:18:26 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: BrooklynGOP
You have to love this ... they pause long enough to film him, but didn't help him ?

Bastards. Seems they love death porn more than humanity

49 posted on 06/07/2004 12:24:09 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Eurotwit

The fact that he was "white meat" outweighed any consideration of his Islamic faith.


50 posted on 06/07/2004 12:29:27 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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