Satellite Images 'Show Atlantis'

BBC ^ | 6-6-2004 | Paul Rincon

[ScottFromSpokane]

Ah, but there was a "Troy myth" which predated even Homer. Atlantis goes back to Plato and stops, and as far as I know, no ancient writer ever treated Atlantis as anything but a fiction.

[AntiGuv]

Killjoy!

[tiamat]

The Philistines are the current Palestinians

[ScottFromSpokane]

I know.

Don't even get me started on Roswell.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Yes, but are there any written accounts of the Trojan war prior to Homer? It is my understanding that the stories were simply oral tradition before his time. In fact a single, massive Trojan War may never have happened, simply a series of smaller conflicts that grew larger with each retelling until Homer molded them to his purpose, again for making commentary on his own Greek society.

Consider this analogy. Let's say that far in the future the world has recovered from devastating wars and plagues that shattered society and ruined much of its record keeping. Little of 20th century culture survives except the films of Sylvester Stalone (a horrifying prospect to be sure). A scholarly debate rages as to whether Rocky Balboa really lived. Of course no such boxer ever lived, but Chuck Wepner did and was the model for Rocky.

Doesn't the article state that there were wars waged on other countries by these "sea people". If so, then there were stories of "Atlantis" prior to Plato, in the same way there was Check Wepner before Rocky.

[ScottFromSpokane]

Doesn't the article state that there were wars waged on other countries by these "sea people". If so, then there were stories of "Atlantis" prior to Plato, in the same way there was Check Wepner before Rocky.

The Sea Peoples existed. There is no evidence that they inspired Plato to invent Atlantis.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Two more thoughts. First is it not true that prior to Schliemann experts doubted that Troy ever existed, regardless of whatever written stories survived from antiquity? Second, perhaps this city did not inspire Plato to write the story of Atlantis, but rather served as the model for it once he decided to create a fictional realm and weave made up stories. I understand that there may be no evidence, but there is no evidence that it was made up in its entirety either (acknowledging that it is impossible to disprove a negative).

[SpookBrat]

Ping

[babaloo999]

What, no mention of an ancient Bat Boy?

[Fedora]

Thanks; interesting find. However I notice the date doesn't fit Plato's description of Atlantis:

Dr Rainer Kuehne thinks the "island" of Atlantis simply referred to a region of the southern Spanish coast destroyed by a flood between 800 BC and 500 BC.

[Jackknife]

..... excerpt from Frank Zppa's 'Blue Light' ....
_________________________________________________

(Death Valley Days, straight ahead)
The future is scary
Yes, it sure is
Well, the puddle is rising
It smells like the ocean
A body of water to isolate England
And also Reseda
The oil, in patches
All over Atlantis, Atlantis
You remember Atlantis
Donovan, the guy with the brocade coat,
Used to sing to you about Atlantis
You loved it, you were so involved then
That was back in the days when you used to
Smoke a banana
You would scrape the stuff off the middle
You would smoke it
You even thought you was getting ripped from it
No problem
Ah Atlantis, they could really get down there
The plankton, the krill
The giant underwater pyramid, the squid decor
Excuse me. Todd
The big ol' giant underwater door
The dome, the bubbles, the blue light
Light, light, light, light

[SoCal Pubbie]

No, but an ancient series of writings by someone called Artus Bellus sounds a awful lot like the Chupacabra.

[BenLurkin]

Thera's my favorite expanation:

[BenLurkin]

Artus Bellus

Wasn't he a character from the Monty Python Grail movie?

[SoCal Pubbie]

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[SoCal Pubbie]

Naw, ole Artus had a late night scribe in show from the Kingdom of Niger, and occasionally appeared in episodes of the XIIIV Files.

[RadioAstronomer]

Thanks for the ping. :-)

[muawiyah]

Plato credits the Egyptians, not the Greeks, with the Atlantis story. That's probably why the Greeks didn't have it in their "mythology" until Plato came along.

[mhking]

Just damn.

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[ScottFromSpokane]

Can you explain why Atlantis never shows up in any Egyptian sources either?