What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."

CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | 01/11/2004 | Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author

[dennisw]

I will never say your heart isn't in the right place.

[1rudeboy]

No argument there.

[Publius6961]

All members of my family are spiritually minded, hard-working, patriotic and independent. IMHO, that is what matters.

A wonderful and admirable attitude. But a far cry from an idiot who actually invites us to celebrate his "my great-grandparents were criminals and look how wonderful I turned out" argument for unbridled illegal immigration.

As an aside, I am an immigrant myself, and all the adults who traveled with this 8 year old kid were legal Immigrants. That is a source of pride for me (in addition to the fact that I am a wonderful human being and never mistreat animals).

[carlo3b]

Not much to go home to in either of our neighborhoods now.. pity they were close nit communities, and full of ethnic culture.. When I was a kid, I sold a Polish Newspaper from my grandfather's paper stand in downtown Chicago called the Chicagoski. We sold almost every ethnic newspaper that was available.. On Wells and Van Buren.. good old windy city..Brrrrrrrrr.

I remember complaining to my grandfather that the buyers of the Chicagoski would make me give them their 3 cent change (the paper was 7 cents), even when it was 20 below zero. I don't know what I thought he could do, but he had an answer that taught me another lesson in life. He told me that if I would just buy them all a free paper then I could keep my hands in my pockets!.. He was a tough cookie, with a gushy center.. :)

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your reply!

This is why I do not get involved in these threads: I rejoice with you and for you and commend all of you for taking the legal immigation route. OTOH, if my beloved nephew were to say to me that he was glad his great grandmother swam across the Rio Grande or else he wouldn't be here either as a member of the family or as an American - I would agree and rejoice with him, too.

[carlo3b]

If the first thing you do when coming to this country is break the law,then you are already off to a bad start.Give those immigrants who legally come here the credit,they respect the laws and are willing to do things the right way.

Try as I might, I couldn't find an argument with anything you say.. I do understand my Freeper friend.. pity we can't find a better answer.. Thanks for a reasonable response.

[Semaphore Heathcliffe]

Emma Lazarus wrote the poem. don't have time for a search now, but I've heard her described as very leftish in her socio-political inclinations. which also fits the current situation to a T.

[sauropod]

I'd even require a familiarity with what's in the Constitution and what's not.

The source of our problems these days.

[AuntB]

Good Morning, gentlemen.

"Guest Worker Program". Let's take one look at that.

Until last spring I lived in what had been an upscale, well kept neighborhood. A neighbor of 30 years died and her family sold her property to a man who brings in "guest workers". There were a dozen of them in an 800 sq. foot home. The property was destroyed within a month with their herds of goats and fighting roosters, not to mention the "lalalalala, ariba music blasting 24/7. A year or so before the same thing happened a couple blocks away.

When I was forced to sell my home because of my health, because I had to have the money from it to live on, I took a $50,000.00 loss because of the "neighbors". My daughter and son in law built a $350,000. house across the street from me 4 years before. When they sold last spring, they got $180,000. The "guest workers" live next door.

I got a note last week from another neighbor whose family has lived on their property for over 60 years. They were told they'd get half of what they would have gotten 3 years before.

sauropod, you'll recognize this quote from another article: "Why did you come here if you want to recreate what you left?"

My family has already given to the "guest worker program". Are you, now, willing to do the same???

[SAMWolf]

Yeah you got that right, wouldn't recognize the place anymore. The last time I went there it looked like Beruit.

I remember all the little mom and pop stores and restuarants. Some of the best ethnic food you could find where in those family restuarants.

[baseballmom]

Carlo you have a beautiful way with words.

I'm of the mind that something has to be done about immigration. The debate needs to happen.

I'm so proud of President Bush for taking it on now - instead of just kicking it down the road.

We've been watching him very closely for 3 years now, and I can honestly say, that I don't think this is pandering to the Hispanic voters. As with his faith based intiatives, and, his deep respect for the dignity of all life, I feel very sure that his hope for immigration reform comes straight from a very loving and Christian soul.

[sauropod]

Gee, let's see what the "defenders of the president" have to say.

I am getting more and more tired of BushBot arrogance.

[carlo3b]

Hey cutestuff, I was so busy fighting off the wolves to notice your smiling face, thats what I have become.. A wolf fighter.. Sheeesh.. I have got to get a life.. :o)

[AuntB]

Here's some more that might interest you:

December 12, 2003

Early this year, we warned you about politicians and special-interest groups quietly working on a program that would give billions of dollars in Social Security benefits to illegal aliens from Mexico. Congressman Ron Paul introduced H.R. 489, The Social Security for American Citizens Only Act to stop that from happening. Even though H.R. 489 was introduced 11 months ago, the bill has only 18 cosponsors as of today. We need to change that right away.

The Arizona Republic featured a story on December 10, 2003 about this issue. The article is titled "Social Security checks could go south of border" and is posted at http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1210mexbenefits10.html

These same politicians and special-interest groups are also working on a program to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens in the U.S. The Washington Times reported on this issue today. "White House verifies immigration review" is posted at http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031211-114734-2215r.htm

So, while dangling billions of dollars in Social Security benefits before illegal aliens, the politicians and special interests now add the gift of amnesty -- hoping Americans are too busy this holiday season to notice these political payoffs.

Urge your U.S. representative to cosponsor H.R. 489. Send a message by going to http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/bills/?bill=1518616 "The Liberty Committee"

[Cultural Jihad]

I don't know what establishing a guest worker program has to do with zoning laws and property values. If your son-in-law didn't complain about livestock next door, or the excessive number of adults crammed into one home, who does he have to blame but the free and open marketplace?

[Yaelle]

Carlo, what you wrote was beautiful but things have changed. My grandfather tried to get a visa to America for years as Hitler slowly stopped letting Jews out. He ended up sending away his kids on a train to England to save their lives. When my grandfather made it out of the concentration camp, he had to work as a butler in England for years, unable to live with his own children but at least be near enough to see them once a week.

They finally got an uncle in America to sponsor them and promise them jobs, so they could come with their underfed teen sons to America and start afresh. My grandfather and uncle went right to work when they got here and supported their family. My dad saw the college boys and decided to work three jobs until he too could afford to go. No one ever went on welfare. They paid for their doctor visits. They learned English and they were proud to go through the process to make them citizens. They hadn't been allowed to be citizens of any country for many years.

We all have stories like that, Carlo. But if you lived in Los Angeles, you would see an entirely different system. It's nothing like it used to be. Immigration made this country great. Illegal immigration like your grandfather's was a very small piece of the immigration pie. Not any more. Illegal immigrants from Spanish-speaking lands south of the border used to be small potatoes too. There is a limit to the huddles masses we can hold.

Today in L.A. assimilation has to be done by us Anglos, blacks, and Asian-Americans. And, more importantly, since 9/11 immigration difficulties are costing us much more than our culture or our civilized society.

[Cultural Jihad]

We'll miss your participation on any future threads dealing with property rights.

[sauropod]

Neither AuntB nor I are going anywhere....

[Ima Lurker]

HALLELUIAH!! I've been singing that song for years and it is wonderful to hear someone else acknowledge it too!

[Cultural Jihad]

That is good. I was just pointing out how silly and hypocritical it would be for either of you to ever post anything supportive of unfettered property rights.