MA DEAN: WE ALWAYS TREATED SERVANTS WELL--Reassuring Words From Howard's Haughty Mom!

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[clintonbaiter]

Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean may have grown up on tony Park Avenue and summered with the swells at East Hampton's then-whites-only Maidstone Club, but his mother, Andree Maitland Dean, insists her son's roots are practically working class.

"Howard didn't have the least bit of a glamorous upbringing," Ma Dean told the New York Times last week. "When I was growing up, we didn't even treat the servants like servants"....

[clintonbaiter]

Howard Dean and family. Just plain folks -- spoiled, arrogant, condescending rich folks!

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[sauropod]

Child of priveledge.

[Peach]

"We didn't even treat servants like servants."

Then they called them friends (vs. servants) and didn't pay them and ate meals with them. Rights.

[thesummerwind]

"When I was growing up, we didn't even treat the servants like servants"....

"But, we did ask the servants to wax Howie's skis before he went off to Aspen with his bad back.

[Theresawithanh]

OMG! Say it isn't so! Why, each newborn baby and it's live-in nurse had to sleep in the KITCHEN! Gasp! The horror!

[Theresawithanh]

Oh, I also wanted to add, you bet yer sweet bippy you couldn't match up to the Bushes, in oh so many ways!

[umgud]

Just what Howie needed........ a little help from mom.

[OpusatFR]

We always called them the help.

Servant is so demeaning. ( ;

[anniegetyourgun]

Just because his parents were racists doesn't mean he is.....right....he isn't a product of his upbringing....right.....

[alrea]

we didn't even treat the servants like servants

Party Of Jesus alert

[EggsAckley]

"Yes, there was sort of this casual racism, in terms of the racist expressions that were used by that generation," he told the Times. "But in all, I think my family was pretty open-minded about different kinds of people."

Dean's IQ here is double digit, but of course, so are the Deanie Babies.

Keep talking, Howie. Keep talking.

[SouthernFreebird]

This is the 2nd time I've seen this today... this can't be for real can it. My jaw is on the floor..reminds me of an old saying... I'm not prejudice against blacks, I think everyone should own a few.

[AD from SpringBay]

If he was a republican we might hear about these things once in a while.

[Democratshavenobrains]

Every DUer who reads this story should be full of pride.

[Inyokern]

Hey, wait. I thought he was a New Englander and that is why he doesn't wear his religion on his sleeve.

[EggsAckley]

Reminds ME of an old friend who used to say "I hate two things, prejudiced people and Ni&&ers on the beach."

[Vigilanteman]

"When I was growing up, we didn't even treat the servants like servants"....

. . . at least we treated them better than Al Gore treated his Negro nanny. </ sarcasm>

[Iscool]

How is one expected to treat servents???

[mylife]

What I will never get is why Democrats always kiss these elitest's butts. Dont they even know what they believe in?

Sheesh

[Cicero]

At this early stage it's likely that Dean enjoys support from those to his left who don't know the fine points of his proposals as well as they know the fine volleys of his rhetoric. In that sense, it's hard to imagine Dean's glorious season ending without disappointment. Either he will alienate the mainstream by tacking left in order to keep his troops in their combat sandals, or, more likely, they will shed a tear when they learn who he really is. Last week I asked Dean's mother Andree Maitland Dean of East Hampton, N.Y., whether her son is truly a liberal insurgent. "He's not really," she said. A beat passed, and she added with a chuckle, "I hope they don't find that out just yet."

(From an article published last August at Esoterically.net)

[AM2000]

I'm sure you already know this, but iconoclast.ca is not a news site. It is a political news parody and satire site.

[Mark]

Dr. Howard Dean,

Have you been to this web site?

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/index.html

[Dialup Llama]

Howard needs some blackup if he's going to secure the Dem nomination. This is an odd way of doing that.

[Servant of the 9]

"When I was growing up, we didn't even treat the servants like servants"....

No one ever does except the Nouveau Riche.

So9

[At _War_With_Liberals]

""When I was growing up, we didn't even treat the servants like servants"...."

"And all the fellatio was consensual."

[awakened]

He just needs a teeeeeeeensy bit more rope and a few more opportunities to speak, and well... does anyone else see a pattern of the Democrats not actually needing the Republicans' help to make them look stupid or to be covered in mud. This time around, the eloquent Dems seem to be so very capable of destroying themselves...it's a good thing too, since President Bush has enough to do these days without actively campaigning.

[Trajan88]

I wonder if ma and pa paid the social security taxes for their friends... er servants?

Trajan88

[VMI70]

"Child of priveledge [sic]."

...and W isn't? So what?

The difference between Ma Dean and Ma Bush in this case is that Ma Bush has sense enough not to say out loud something as un PC as this. I don't know whether that is good or bad.
"To thine own self be true."

[HitmanLV]

Stuff like this never sticks to Dems, sorry.

I recall Hillary remarking at a college commencement I think, during Bill's first term, that 'most people have to understand that janitors are people, too."

Now of course, most people perfectly understand that, but Hill thought it was some kind of breakthrough thinking or something. Go figure her out!

In any case, it was condescending and horribly patronizing, but it didn't stick. NYers can't get enough of her.

Of course, if a Republican made remarks like that, it would be open season on talking head shows of folks trying to divine 'exactly what she meant..."

[small voice in the wilderness]

MYGAWD, so Ma Dean is where dean gets his political savvy!

Why do I hear Ma saying to Howard: "Here, hold muh martini and watch this!"

[vbmoneyspender]

it looks like it is sourced from Newsmax. I'll leve the question of whether Newsmax is a parody/satire website open for debate.

[Agnes Heep]

Big deal. In Lieberman's household they blew the shofar.

[vbmoneyspender]

It looks like it is a real story.

See Link

This is just kooky. I have a hard time nowadays figuring what is parody and what isn't when stories are posted about Dean.

[Volunteer]

So it turns out that Ma Dean is a democrat after all...

Here is the bottom line - Democrats do NOT believe that all people are equal. The believe and teach that some people are not "quite as good as us" and therefore we need laws to "help" these folks.

Understand, by "help" they don't mean allow them human dignity or the chance to some day live beside of wealthy, white democrats. No, that is out of the question. What they mean by help is an extension of the slavery tradition. Instead of slavery, they call it welfare or social security.

Welfare? No one fares well on welfare.

Social Security? Be secure in the knowledge that you will remain poor and your options will remain limited.

[vbmoneyspender]

as you note, the difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals believe most people are stupid and therefor need to be 'helped' by those who are more highly educated, whereas conservatives believe that most people are rational and therefor will act according to their self-interest.

[commish]

So I guess unlike Sir Albert of Gore, Little Howard never had to sneak a sandwich to his servants while they sat sweating in the back seat of the family car on a sweltering summer afternoon.

How quaint.

[elbucko]

Dean enjoys support from those to his left who don't know the fine points of his proposals as well as they know the fine volleys of his rhetoric

...by tacking left in order to keep his troops in their combat sandals,...

Well said.

[AM2000]

iconoclast.ca is a well-known news satire site. Yet, the overwhelming majority of FReepers who responded to this post seem to think it's real. Maybe the folks at NewsMax.com made the same mistake?

Bottom line, I don't know. Maybe NewsMax.com got it first and iconoclast.ca assumed it was satire and carried it. All I was pointing out was this - iconoclast.ca is not a news site. Is NewsMax.com a news site? Now that's where things get really blurry. I'll let you figure that one out ;-)

[AM2000]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1047408/posts

It looks liek the iconoclast.ca article was based on a real interview Ma Dean gave to the New York Times.

[Texas Eagle]

How is one expected to treat servents???

They're expected to pay them.

[elli1]

Here's what Ma Dean told the NYTimes:

"When I was growing up," she said, "we didn't even treat the servants like servants."

Of course, later on when she was married, the servants had to sleep in the dining room cause none of the Deans were willing to give up a room so the hired help could have some privacy. They were too cheap to get a bigger place. Having the servants bed down in the dining room is the modern equilavent of having them sleep out in the barn. Of course, Manhattan apartments don't usually come w/ an attached barn, so what's a poor socialite to do?

And, we're supposed to assume that the servants of Ma Dean's youth weren't required to scrub out her poopy underwear or rub out those ugly heelmarks her little Cinderella sneakers left on those cozy marble floors...

[joyce11111]

Isn't that special.

[Veritas_est]

"Bottom line, I don't know. Maybe NewsMax.com got it first and iconoclast.ca assumed it was satire and carried it. All I was pointing out was this - iconoclast.ca is not a news site. Is NewsMax.com a news site? Now that's where things get really blurry. I'll let you figure that one out ;-)

Nice try, AM2000, but this time the sour grapes turned out sweet. This is the real thing.

[MegaSilver]

There exist no words to convey the sheer stupidity of the Dean Mother's interview answers. She clearly has no idea what "affluent" means. She clearly talks out of her sphyncter.