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Environmentalists File Suit to Stop New Jersey Bear Hunt
Cybercast News Service ^ | Dec 2, 2003 | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 12/02/2003 7:54:57 AM PST by neverdem

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Another reason I'll never move to New Jersey.
1 posted on 12/02/2003 7:54:57 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Environmentalists, Native Americans and hikers

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I remember when the Washington D.C. crowd was insisting on re-introducing the wolf and grizzly bear in this area the locals pretty much had the attitude, hey reintroduce them in YOUR back yard, not ours! Now the enviornmentalists have programs to pay the farmers back for all of the dead livestock that these predators kill each year.
2 posted on 12/02/2003 8:02:20 AM PST by PeteFromMontana
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Steve Ember, a plaintiff in the Delaware Water Gap suit and a prominent hike leader who has led hundreds of hikers into the park land, said, "Almost every hiker I've known has been thrilled to see black bears in New Jersey. The experience of observing wild bears ranks among the highest benefits of hiking. We don't want our bear population and our hiking experiences jeopardized."

I'm suddenly reminded of that Bozo and his girlfriend that were mauled and killed in Alaska a few months ago. They liked to get all cozy and cuddly with the bears, too.

3 posted on 12/02/2003 8:03:00 AM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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"For many generations, the bear has lived in harmony with the Native Americans," said Santos Hawk's Blood, a plaintiff in the suit and a member of the Chiricahua Apache Nation and the Lone Warrior Society.

Uh huh. Y'all never ate bear meat or traded bear claws or anything like that.

Liar. I'm not sure I really believe you're an Indian.

4 posted on 12/02/2003 8:07:50 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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"What our state needs to solve bear/human conflicts is not to shoot bears at random for trophies

Again with the trophy crap. People EAT them. I think there are bear recipes in Joy of Cooking.

5 posted on 12/02/2003 8:10:06 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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Ahhh.... Santos Hawk's Blood - This guy is a puzzle. An AIM activist (A Marxist/Leninist group) and environmental whacko, but at the same time he is militantly Pro-Israel... Interesting character...
6 posted on 12/02/2003 8:11:42 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Friendship is like peeing your pants, everyone can see it, but only you can feel it's true warmth!)
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Again with the trophy crap. People EAT them. I think there are bear recipes in Joy of Cooking

People eat bears? What sort of food do you make with it? Is it tasty?

I can't eat it because of my religion, but I am interested in learning about it.

I hope these environmentalists are stopped.

7 posted on 12/02/2003 8:13:40 AM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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Bear is, like, pioneer food. If you managed to kill one, of course you'd use the meat and the pelt. :D

Most people haven't eaten it, but most people these days have never had venison either.

I got out my Joy of Cooking, it recommends putting bear meat in an oil-based marinade for at least 24 hours and then preparing with any pot roast or beef stew recipe. So it doesn't sound too tender.
8 posted on 12/02/2003 8:23:44 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: yonif
One of the tastiest meals I ever had was bear stew.

Simple recipe: just what you would expect to put in a stew.

You sure can make a whole lot of stew with a bear... we fed
the whole camp (200+) easily... and the bear was only a year
or two old.
9 posted on 12/02/2003 8:25:17 AM PST by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: neverdem
That is so anti-gay... oh, not that kinda bear, the left are so confusing....
10 posted on 12/02/2003 8:25:50 AM PST by Porterville (No communism or french)
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To: yonif
My favorite is corned bear:

100 lbs bear meat
2 ounces baking soda
8 lbs salt
2 ounces saltpeter
4 lbs sugar

Salt the meat down in layers in a keg, alternating the salt. Let it stand overnight. At the same time the meat is put down make a solution of the suger, soda and saltpeter in 1 gallon of warm water, and let it stand overnight. Next day pour the solution over the meat. After a few days, drain off the solution, bring it to a boil, straining off the blood. Replace the fluid on the meat, keeping it covered by inverting a large plate on top of the meat. This is ready to use as corned meat within four to six weeks but may be used satisfactorily at intermediate stages.

If too salty, it must be soaked or parboiled. Save the salty water for soup, stews, cooking potatoes or other vegetables, gravy, etc.

It keeps well and can feed a family of 8 for most of a winter.
11 posted on 12/02/2003 8:26:05 AM PST by BJClinton (John Muhammad is a terrorist, not a sniper.)
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Bear isn't kosher? Well, now I've learned something. Is it because they have paws, or is it something else?
12 posted on 12/02/2003 8:26:55 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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"The National Park Service has thumbed its nose at federal law by allowing the trophy hunting of bears without studying the potential impacts to the environment, to the bear population, and to rare species such as bald eagles," Markarian said.

I'll never forget the time I accidently shot a bald eagle after mistaking it for a grizzly bear.

13 posted on 12/02/2003 8:27:47 AM PST by mbynack
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Oh, man. Any recipe that starts off with "First take 100 pounds of bear meat" makes me tired...
14 posted on 12/02/2003 8:29:44 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: mbynack
I'll never forget the time I accidently shot a bald eagle after mistaking it for a grizzly bear.

Hey, it's an honest mistake. But I'll bet it haunts you to this day. ;D

16 posted on 12/02/2003 8:34:38 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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Well, they are right that there is no hunting on National Park land, instead, usually overpopulation problems are either huge projects to move animals to another place with marginal payoff, or quiet slaughters no one hears about.

On this, the conversation can't continue to be run by the "we don't belong in the woods" crowd. I am sure this wacko coalition is right that the hunt is against Federal Law. But there needs to be a workaround for the Park Service to be able to call for hunts of overpopulated species, and a hunt is a darn fine way to do that. The forest is strong, and can 'bear' people on it hunting. Unlike us, animals live with real threats daily, and can keep them in perspective.

Beyond that, I am impressed that there are big tracts of land with bears on it still left in New Jersey. Being from a Western State, the whole state is smaller than one of our parks. That the bears are still there is a good thing. Let the Park Service manage their numbers so they stay there.

No comment on the goofy indian quote at the end of the article.
17 posted on 12/02/2003 8:45:37 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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I'll never forget the time I accidently shot a bald eagle after mistaking it for a grizzly bear.

No wonder they think we are buttheads.... Some of us are.

18 posted on 12/02/2003 8:47:00 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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That was humor. I'll warn you before I do it again so you don't look like such an idiot.
19 posted on 12/02/2003 8:49:14 AM PST by mbynack
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To: neverdem
Commerce Clause bump.
20 posted on 12/02/2003 8:50:33 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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