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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 11-13
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| November 10, 2003
| sweetliberty
Posted on 11/10/2003 8:35:02 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Orlando
You can tell his (Boris guy) ignorance from the statement that Mikey is the only one "fit" to make the decision.Lord help us!
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posted on
11/13/2003 7:39:42 AM PST
by
lilypad
To: lilypad; sweetliberty; floriduh voter; dandelion; FL_engineer; All
Oh, wow, thanks for the tip that Bay 9 is going to broadcast it! Sure enough, they mention it on their website here, looks like we may really be able to hear it, they have a link to listen to their streaming audio.
Bay News 9 Homepage
I saw the mention of this debate on some thread a few days ago, here's the link for the sponsoring club:
Tiger Bay Club: Schiavo Debate Info
The Tiger Bay Club of Tampa
Friday, November 14, 2003
12 Noon (ET)
"CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS: Death with Dignity Denied or Saved from Murder?"
George Felos, Attorney for Michael Schiavo
Diane Coleman, Founder of "Not Dead Yet"
I don't know anything about Diane Coleman, is she a good speaker? I hope she runs rings around Felos and nukes his double-speak with piercing clarity!
To: saveterri1
Update! "...I didn't know that Pearse's views had changed since 1998. He no longer opposes the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube.
'Here's why:
'Most of the medical testimony, given at trial and after Pearse issued his recommendations, concluded she would never recover.
'The primary reason for Michael Schiavo's conflict of interest is gone. Only about $50,000 of the original $700,000 settlement remains. The rest reportedly went to Terri Schiavo's care and legal fees.
'The case itself has been closely scrutinized by judge after judge, and their findings have been unanimous. The judges thought they knew what Terri Schiavo would have wanted. 'They also found Michael Schiavo credible. Even with a conflict of interest, Pearse said, he could be right about his wife's wishes.
'One day, this all must stop.
'Pearse has a word for what is needed.
'Finality.
'That's what courts are supposed to provide, Pearse said. They are supposed to sort through our biggest disputes and put them to rest.
'Once the governor and Legislature stepped in and pushed through Terri's Law, the courts were denied their usual role.
'Pearse called the law stunningly bad policy.
'Note to the GOP: Pearse is a Republican.
'He predicted, as others have, that Terri's Law will be struck down as unconstitutional, a case of unequal protection under the law. The concept means that it's illegal to give Terri Schiavo a right that others don't get. Terri's Law was written to cover her situation and hers alone.
'The fight now is on two fronts.
'In one court case, Michael Schiavo mounts a challenge to Terri's Law, before Pinellas Circuit Judge W. Douglas Baird. The other battle is before Judge Greer, as it has been for years. Terri Schiavo's parents are asking, as they have repeatedly, for the ouster of Michael Schiavo as his wife's guardian. Like Pearse, the rest of us can only watch."
To: daylate-dollarshort
To: Snykerz
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posted on
11/13/2003 9:52:01 AM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: sweetliberty
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:10:05 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
To: All
Can anyone tell me if they have any information about a Federal Agency in regards to the American's With Disabilities Act investigating the Terri Schiavo situation? My mother said she saw a blip of it on Fox this morning? Anyone?
To: TheSarce
I saw Diane Coleman on MSN with Abrams report a few nights ago and she was on with some female atty ( I think her name was Weintraub or something like that)who was very loud, and obnoxious,who of course sided with the death squad.In my view,this atty made mincemeat out of Diane Coleman, not on facts, but by being downright pushy and loud.She kept repeating that Terri's wishes were clear and convincing. This is not good for the folks who do not know all the story to hear this.I hope Diane can be more convincing than she was the other night and given the opportunity to speak.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:47:11 AM PST
by
lilypad
To: TheSarce; lilypad; sweetliberty; floriduh voter; dandelion; atruelady
>>I don't know anything about Diane Coleman, is she a good speaker? I hope she runs rings around Felos and nukes his double-speak with piercing clarity!
ummm, sorry, but I don't think so. I caught a portion of a 3-way debate with her on Abrams Report this week.
It was Coleman (FOR Terri, and FOR the disabled)
vs.
Abrams and that viscious Weintraub woman (arguing AGAINST Terri)
Coleman HAD a good message but wasn't forceful or a great orator like Alan Keyes. Most casual observers tuning in for the first time would barely have noticed what Coleman said due to the forceful slamming by the MSNBC tag team pair.
I've given up on Dan Abrams. He's a jerk and has made up his mind that Terri has to die as soon as possible. Abrams defends MS every other sentence.
Coleman might do better on the radio, with Felos since Felos holds his temper better than Weintraub, and from what I've seen Felos does let his opposition talk. Hopefully the radio moderator will also assure equal time and fairness. Maybe Coleman's appearance on the Abrams show will hopefully make her more polished on the subject too.
God, wouldn't it be great to enlist Alan Keyes to our cause???
oooooh, I just checked and he 'might' already BE on board, or nearly on board Terri's team...
This page is well worth the read...
Alan Keyes' Chief of Staff heralds Schiavo victory
And this may be his email address...
orders@declaration.net
according to the link at the bottom of this page... Alan Keyes - Archive
To: lilypad
I see we had the exact same impression.
I had NOT seen your comments yet when I was composing mine.
To: FL_engineer
Diane Coleman participated in a press conference in front of Hospice. THE LOCAL MEDIA LEFT HER ON THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR. I was aghast. She'll do a good job tomorrow. She represents the disabled who can't do public speaking and who were horrified by Terri's Court Order.
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posted on
11/13/2003 11:04:36 AM PST
by
floriduh voter
(Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
To: TheSarce; sweetliberty; Ragtime Cowgirl; windchime; EternalVigilance; GWB and GOP Man; sarasmom; ...
Friday's a big day. Bay News 9: Covering Tiger Bay Luncheon with debate between Not Dead Yet and Felos.
Next: Terri's fight on OPRAH. Finally: The Schindlers ON LARRY KING LIVE AT 9:00 PM EST. All confirmed.
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posted on
11/13/2003 11:11:32 AM PST
by
floriduh voter
(Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
To: daylate-dollarshort
Some of us can even watch at the Tiger Bay Luncheon.
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posted on
11/13/2003 11:14:31 AM PST
by
floriduh voter
(Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
To: floriduh voter
When will they be speaking, FV? I can't stomach the pitiful 'news' people on BayNews 9 long enough to check anything there. I'll set the VCR and fast-forward through the 'news' people and their comments.
To: FL_engineer
Dan Abrams' father, Floyd Abrams, is a big liberal, but I cannot think of his organization.
To: atruelady
Can anyone tell me if they have any information about a Federal Agency in regards to the American's With Disabilities Act investigating the Terri Schiavo situation? My mother said she saw a blip of it on Fox this morning? Anyone? There was talk about this several weeks back right about the time Jeb Bush signed Terri's Law. I have been wondering myself what is happening with this.....will do some investigating.
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posted on
11/13/2003 1:13:59 PM PST
by
pollywog
(Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
To: sweetliberty; All
Do you think this thread might have become a little quieter because of the active troll on it? I remember on the last couple of daily threads there were posters commenting that they stay out of all the other Terri threads because of the trolls. Up until very recently this thread has been nearly free of disruption. Maybe it's only me, but I realize I've visited this thread less in the past few days because I'm so sick of the trolling. Of course, we can always scroll past it, and I do, but the troll posting really long (and frequent) posts makes it more like an obstacle course. Wishing Free Republic had an "ignore" feature.
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posted on
11/13/2003 1:32:42 PM PST
by
lonevoice
(Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
To: FL_engineer
"that viscious Weintraub woman" That woman needs to go back to school and retake "Being Human-101." I think she failed it the first time around.
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posted on
11/13/2003 2:04:11 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: FL_engineer
"God, wouldn't it be great to enlist Alan Keyes to our cause???" My dream choice would still be Ann Coulter. She'd have Felos' b**ls in her purse. I'd even be happy just to see her do a little reading up on the merchant of death and his delusional musings then do a column, but I would especially like to see her go head to head with him on TV. She'd send him crying home to Mama.
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posted on
11/13/2003 2:11:50 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: sweetliberty
LOL! You have such a way with words. ;o)
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posted on
11/13/2003 2:33:34 PM PST
by
shezza
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