Universal Health Care! Are Canadians Stupid?

geocities.com ^ | 2000 | Jack Stewart

[joseph_hardesty]

An interesting analytical comparison of Canadian Universal Health Care to the American brand of health care. Looks to me like the Canadian brand beats out our brand in every respect.

[SJSAMPLE]

We can always just ask the hordes of Canadians streaming over the Ambassador Bridge and through the Windsor Tunnel as they come to Detroit for routine testing and invasive surgery. Why do you suppose that is? Hmmmmmmmm.

[TheBigB]

So move to Canada, member since Nov. 6, 2003.

[The Old Hoosier]

the Canadian brand beats out our brand in every respect

Unless you want surgery this year.

[eabinga]

I would like to know, seriously, how much paperwork canadian doctors and hospitals have to file. It seems to me, that generating paperwork is the main activity in the US healthcare system.

[discostu]

Let's see SARS got into Toronto and killed over a hundred people, SARS got into America and killed none. Which country has the superior healthcare system?

Most of those stats are related to a lot more than just healthcare, life expectancy is also a function of diet, driving habits, life style risks and willingness to see doctors in the first place.

When push comes to shove the question is simple: check out the quality of the roads on your next trip, do you reall want those people in charge or your healthcare?

[GWfan]

What a pant load.

[VRWCmember]

Incoming!

Joseph, feel free to participate in the wonderful canadian healthcare system.

Two words: doorknob, @$$

[VRWCmember]

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[Pete]

First, posting an article like this on your first day is likley to get you labeled a disruptor (even if you are not). Second, I know people who live under this system in Canada. Why don't you mention the 6 month waiting lists to get surgeries? Why don't you mention that if you are over a certain age and you have cancer, they send you home to die? This happened to my Aunt.

They mention that Medicare only has a 2% overhead. That is very misleading. Go out to the private insurance company that the government has contracted with to administer Medicare and see what their overhead is. Not to mention the cost shifting to the private sector by government programs.

Why don't you mention that benefits have been massively scaled back in Canada in recent years because of budget deficits? Finally, why don't you mention that all health care is rationed. Whether economically or by the government. I am very nervous letting the government decide who gets health care and who doesn't.

[joseph_hardesty]

I wrote:

the Canadian brand beats out our brand in every respect

You wrote:

Unless you want surgery this year.

As the above article points out, in a 1992 Gallup poll, the Canadians, who live right next to us, and speak the same language, and have lots of knowledge of our system, preferred their system to our system by 96% to 2%.

If they had such huge problems with not getting adequate care, why on earth would you get such HUGELY slanted number against the US system and for their system?

[goodnesswins]

You know...you're NEW HERE (11/6/03).....and you post something like this on your first day? You really should improve your analytical skills before posting this kind of tripe....

[luckydevi]

Our government has too much control over our healthcare as it is. There is nothing conservative about universal health care.

[unsycophant]

The article you cite is titled "Are Canadians Stupid?". You would probably get more interest by leaving it unaltered, newbie.

[Conspiracy Guy]

What is today? Fools on Parade? Move to or stay in Canada but save your posts for DU.

[goodnesswins]

YOU cite the Canadians as Preferring THEIR system to ours.....LOL....The Canadians have gotten used to having to wait for surgeries, to having their elderly kicked out of hospitals ASAP to make room for others, etc.....sheesh....(I LIVED there, have friends who lived there, I KNOW!)

[eleni121]

We can always just ask the hordes of Canadians streaming over the Ambassador Bridge and through the Windsor Tunnel as they come to Detroit for routine testing and invasive surgery. Why do you suppose that is? Hmmmmmmmm.

Add the Peace Bridge directly funneling Torontonians into the Buffalo NY hospitals for the same reasons.

Friends in Toronto tell us regularly of the incredible waits for routing checkups. So much anecdotal evidence to show how bad Canadian health care really is.

[Pete]

If they had such huge problems with not getting adequate care, why on earth would you get such HUGELY slanted number against the US system and for their system?

The answer is obvious when you realize that in any given year 5% of people generate 50% of the costs. Also, you can expect 70% to 75% of the people in a given year will not have a need to access the health care system. That is why health care polling doesn't work.

[dighton]

Mmmmmmmmmmm, Canadian bacon-flavored kittenchow.

[discostu]

It's an 11 year old poll dude, try grabbing some info from this century.