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Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion
The Intercept ^ | March 16, 2017 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 03/16/2017 12:46:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

From MSNBC politics shows to town hall meetings across the country, the overarching issue for the Democratic Party’s base since Trump’s victory has been Russia, often suffocating attention for other issues. This fixation has persisted even though it has no chance to sink the Trump presidency unless it is proven that high levels of the Trump campaign actively colluded with the Kremlin to manipulate the outcome of the U.S. election — a claim for which absolutely no evidence has thus far been presented.

The principal problem for Democrats is that so many media figures and online charlatans are personally benefiting from feeding the base increasingly unhinged, fact-free conspiracies — just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were elected — that there are now millions of partisan soldiers absolutely convinced of a Trump/Russia conspiracy for which, at least as of now, there is no evidence. And they are all waiting for the day, which they regard as inevitable and imminent, when this theory will be proven and Trump will be removed....

(Excerpt) Read more at theintercept.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: democrats; russia; trump; trumprussia
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1 posted on 03/16/2017 12:46:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Attend a few classified briefings and even normally clueless Dems start to recognize that the only 2016 Russia collusion involved Dems. Best to let this one fall back through cracks.


2 posted on 03/16/2017 12:53:25 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So wait, if a lie is repeated often enough, it does not become true!?

Liberal heads about to ‘splode!


3 posted on 03/16/2017 12:53:33 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the Democrats are planning to apologize... NOT!

The Democrats will never apologize. They are scoundrels and bums.


4 posted on 03/16/2017 12:57:19 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The principal problem for Democrats is that so many media figures and online charlatans are personally benefiting from feeding the base increasingly unhinged, fact-free conspiracies —just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were elected"

The difference being so called right wing conspiracies were & still are fact based, supported by research and sworn testimonies.
Left wing accusations, by contrast are indeed fact-free fantasies intended mainly to blow enough political smoke to conceal their own wrong doings.

5 posted on 03/16/2017 1:09:48 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were elected

Yeah, you tell 'em, Glenn Greenwald - the whole Monica Lewinsky / Linda Tripp / suborning perjury stuff was just another unhinged, fact-free conspiracy put out by a 'Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy' that has been that has been conspiring against Hillary Clinton's husband "since the day he announced for president."

6 posted on 03/16/2017 1:12:29 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think that MSNBC is REALLY WORRIED.
But MSNBC just keeps repeating their lies very loudly and very often.
Only the mentally unstable listens to them any more.

Read this summary from Parsing Clapper by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY on March 8, 2017 :
Now, let's continue with more evidence:

Watch this: There's several LIBERAL News Sources named in that video.

Found by Mrk Levin at Mark Levin PROVES Trump Wiretapping Claims: ‘The Evidence Is Overwhelming’ #ObamaGate
(They went to the FISA, that's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Court not once ... BUT TWICE ! ) : Where was it written (?)
7 posted on 03/16/2017 1:26:45 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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Oh dear, they only found stuff via “wiretaps” as reported by the New York Times on Trump and nothing on Russia. Bummer for the DummycRATS.
8 posted on 03/16/2017 1:31:18 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; InterceptPoint; chris37; dhs12345; BroJoeK; Zeppo
RATS appologize for lying? Are you kidding?

Hussein Obama only had ONE option, generate a Russian story that had NO BASIS, no evidence.

WHY did Hussein generate this lie?

The WikiLeaks emails showed that RATS were breaking laws and thumbing their noses at America. To distract and divert, the presstitutes got their marching orders to ignore what Wikileaks said and to concentrate on the Russian narrative.

When was the last time you saw a headline with Hillary's Pay for Play information? When did you last hear about John Podesta talking about hot tub fun with children, one ALMOST 7 years old?

The RATS buried the real dirt and played Americans for the idiots that they are.

RAT have been winning. They will keep winning until the discussions and the investigations divert back to Hillary and Hussein's criminality.

That MIGHT change when the RATS start being arrested. Start with Hillary's destruction of evidence. There is NO defense, she's guilty.


9 posted on 03/16/2017 1:40:24 PM PDT by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama did)
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On the other hand, Podesta (Hillary's campaign manager) was indeed working for a Russian bank during 2016:

https://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=getFilingDetails&filingID=8A5BD4FB-2687-4CDF-9906-0A65F4D8D52B&filingTypeID=1

10 posted on 03/16/2017 1:43:45 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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The real question is “will there be rioting in democrat streets” once this gets out. Another oppotunity for Free shoes and TVs for democrats could be in the cards.


11 posted on 03/16/2017 1:45:02 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Yosemitest

I’d bet Comey is the most worried about this. He was sure Trump was going to win. He bet on the wrong horse.


12 posted on 03/16/2017 1:47:06 PM PDT by Terry Mross (How long has it been since you've haowl of ..... Democrat whip ass chili?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DEMOCRATS = FAKE AMERICANS


13 posted on 03/16/2017 2:02:30 PM PDT by zzwhale
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Interesting that now that they are about to have to TESTIFY UNDER OATH...the Russian ‘conspiracy’ seems to be dropping from favor.


14 posted on 03/16/2017 2:14:42 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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So you mean he won legitimately, Wolf?


15 posted on 03/16/2017 2:37:19 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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EVIDENCE? We don’t need no stinkin’ evidence!


16 posted on 03/16/2017 3:12:32 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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So no evidence of Russian collusion... No evidence of wiretapping. It’s a wash, let’s move on.


17 posted on 03/16/2017 3:24:42 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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So you believe it’s credible that Hussein did NOT bug teh Tower? Seriously? That would be completely out of character for BO.


18 posted on 03/16/2017 7:32:39 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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So... no evidence of wiretapping.

You're kidding, right?

Whether you want ot call it wiretapping, "intercepts", or whatever—and whether it was done under US auspices with warrants, or foreign auspices with no warrants—there simply no doubt that classified information and the contents of private phone calls have been leaked.

And in order to have a leak, someone has to have intercepted or eavesdropped on the communication in the first place.

We also have 0bama, right before he left office, suddenly and profoundly "liberalizing" the policies related to sharing intelligence, and in a way that 0bama wasn't comfortable with during the entirety of his administration.

There's no evidence for the Trump-Russia collusion, of course—because it didn't happen—but there's ample evidence that Democrat-affiliated elements of the deep state have been engaging in surveillance, regardless of the auspices under which it has been conducted.

Crimes have been committed somewhere along the line here, and they haven't been committed by the Trump administration.

The swamp needs to be drained to the bottom...

19 posted on 03/16/2017 7:48:23 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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I don’t think Obama bugged Trump Tower...I think he got a hold of the metadata.


20 posted on 03/16/2017 8:04:37 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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