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Faithless electors group in contact with Clinton allies
Hot Air ^ | December 5, 2016 | John Sexton

Posted on 12/05/2016 4:00:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The group of Democratic electors who are trying to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president have been in contact with Clinton allies. Politico reports:

Advocates of the long-shot bid to turn the Electoral College against Donald Trump have been in contact with close allies of Hillary Clinton, according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions, but the Clinton camp — and Clinton herself — have declined to weigh in on the merits of the plan…

In a sign of the sensitivity of the issue, former Clinton campaign officials declined repeated requests to comment on the Electoral College effort. DNC officials also failed to respond to requests for comment.

Like the recount effort, which the Clinton campaign joined after it was announced by Green Party candidate Jill Stein, this is another attempt to change the results of the election that is going nowhere. The so-called Hamilton electors, who have agreed to change their votes on December 19th when the electors meet and vote, are nearly all Democrats pledged to vote for Hillary Clinton. In a bid to sway GOP electors away from their commitments the Democrats are promising to vote instead for Republican John Kasich:

“Many Electors are saying that Governor John Kasich would be best for our country. A consensus is beginning to form that Governor Kasich would be best positioned to unite America,” said Micheal Baca, in a statement to POLITICO on Sunday. Other electors involved in the effort confirmed this line of thinking.

So far only one Republican elector has indicated a willingness to switch his (or her) vote, however that person has not been identified. Since Trump won the election with 306 electoral votes, at least 37 Republicans would need to change their minds in the next two weeks (36 more if it’s true that one GOP elector has already agreed to change his vote) to stop Trump from becoming president.

As I mentioned here, the faithless electors have an ulterior motive. What they really want is to do away with the electoral college entirely. That won’t happen overnight, but they reason it could happen if Americans become disenchanted with the current system. So even if it’s only Hillary’s electors who change their votes this year that’s still a break with tradition which could eventually lead to more electors breaking ranks in the future and that could lead to more Americans deciding the system isn’t reliable.

The left is always playing the long game but in this case they’re not going to get anywhere in short run.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; constitution; constructionism; constructionist; electoralcollege; hillary; scotus; trump
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1 posted on 12/05/2016 4:00:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am going to self censor myself on this topic.

But, if I did say something I’d say these faithless electors need to literally physically beaten and then thrown in jail after show trial.

However, since that would illegal I’m not going to say it.


2 posted on 12/05/2016 4:06:13 PM PST by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do any of these knuckleheads have a clue as to what will happen if they are successful with this subterfuge?

I don’t believe e they will be successful but for the sake of argument let us suppose they are successful. They have the BLM, SJW and college snowflake types on their side, but our side has most of the guns.

It will not end well for them.


3 posted on 12/05/2016 4:08:28 PM PST by Roger Kaputnik (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove that they aren't out to get me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe we should let someone know that this HotAir seems to be one of those Fake News sites.


4 posted on 12/05/2016 4:10:51 PM PST by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fake News.

These faithless electors....are SUPPOSED to vote for Hillary, because these twits are FROM states she won.

Yup, all the blue states should allocate their electors based on the popular vote!! That will teach those damn republicans!!


5 posted on 12/05/2016 4:11:43 PM PST by Professional
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To: Roger Kaputnik

There’s no place on Earth that they could enjoy their bribe money. They would be marked men. Better to rat on the mafia or CIA then get 180 million people mad at you.


6 posted on 12/05/2016 4:12:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't bother Kasich...he's too busy eating

7 posted on 12/05/2016 4:16:39 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is all silly activity by unhinged, disappointed Democrats to make a political statement. If Democratic electors vote for Kascich , then they will throw doubt on future close elections by establishing the potential power of “faithless electors”. Their activities cannot stop Trump’s election. They are also trying to keep the snowflakes from melting. Trump should make it known that he holds Hillary directly responsible for this attack on the Electoral College and Stein’s antics as well. A price must be paid.


8 posted on 12/05/2016 4:16:47 PM PST by allendale
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To: Fai Mao

Just say that these faithless electors should be facing treason charges, and should meet the fate of the Rosenbergs.

They get what they deserve, AND it’s done through the legal system. A win for non-Leftists everywhere!


9 posted on 12/05/2016 4:19:54 PM PST by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: allendale

This stuff is ridiculous. The electors are absolute party faithful that will not never change their votes. That’s why they’re picked. To resist this kind of stuff that has gone on for years.
Why these stories garner coverage I’ll never know.


10 posted on 12/05/2016 4:21:29 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suspect Hamilton Electors will be meeting Burr Rejectors if they somehow manage to succeed in installing Kasich. All this fuss over him? What a graceless boob.


11 posted on 12/05/2016 4:21:37 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: roostercogburn

Well, what does Republican Governor Kasich have to say about this?


12 posted on 12/05/2016 4:24:11 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: roostercogburn

The loser in Texas is seeking his 15 minutes of fame.
He doesn’t count.


13 posted on 12/05/2016 4:24:46 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: allendale

They want to show a weakness in the electoral system. They want to muck it up so supporters of the system will turn against it.
States should toughen up penalties for faithless electors.
That would deter these idiots.


14 posted on 12/05/2016 4:28:01 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: Roger Kaputnik
If when Congress counts the electoral votes, it found that enough electors had flipped to give Hillary a majority (highly doubtful unless they were able to flip Florida or one or two of the states where Stein is trying to have recounts), what do Hillary, the Democrats, and the mainstream media expect to happen? That people will just say, "Wow! What a surprise! We thought Trump was going to be President but instead it will be Hillary," and go back to watching their favorite TV programs?

It's possible that Hillary may get a few electors to succumb to bribes or death threats, but meanwhile there are one or two possible defectors from the electors who are supposed to vote for her.

15 posted on 12/05/2016 4:30:25 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“DEMOCRAT” electors.

Why does anyone even read any further?


16 posted on 12/05/2016 4:35:21 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The group of Democratic electors “

Did these people change their party affiliation in a week?

Maybe I’m missing something?

5.56mm


17 posted on 12/05/2016 4:39:28 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, so fewer electoral votes for Hillary Clinton. Why is this a concern?


18 posted on 12/05/2016 4:42:45 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So far only one Republican elector has indicated a willingness to switch his (or her) vote, however that person has not been identified.

Yes he has:

Christopher Suprun

Why I Will Not Cast My Electoral Vote for Donald Trump

19 posted on 12/05/2016 4:51:20 PM PST by CedarDave (Proud member of Hillary's Deplorables class of 2016.)
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To: CedarDave

And thanks to his coming out he will be replaced by someone who will vote for Trump!


20 posted on 12/05/2016 4:53:45 PM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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