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Emerson FL poll, odds & ends
People's Pundit Daily ^ | 10/6/2016 | LS

Posted on 10/06/2016 7:33:10 AM PDT by LS

PPD/Emerson has Trump +1 in FL . . . but talk about screwy! He is at 18% with blacks and 35% with Hispanics! Sorry, unless you are polling lesbian academics, this is at minimum a 5-point poll and game over.

They also have a tie in NV (Team Trump is confident they are up in NV).

Emerson has Cankles leading AZ, even though Trump is getting 40% of the Hispanics there? Not a chance in hell. Trump will win AZ comfortably 7-10 points.

Interesting info out of Montgomery Co. OH: in 2012 absentees looked like this: R 7,400 D 3,179 I 25,007 . . . except these weren't really "Is." They were Ds who, according to OH law, were thrown back into the "I" bin because they did not vote in the uncontested D primary.

A friend, with intimate knowledge of OH voting records by household (i.e., whether an address voted D or R) and precinct level understanding (i.e., the likelihood that a voter in x precinct would be a D or R) "normalized" the numbers.

2012 "normalized" looks like this: D 15,144 R 13,021 I 7,443

here is 2016 without normalization as mailed out by the board of elections D 8,523 R 14,357 I 20,351

Here it is normalized according to voting history of the address: D 15,642 (36%) R 19,685 (45%) I 7,904 (18%)

What makes this especially interesting is that these are almost the SAME percentages I'm seeing with absentees in FL: 43-37-21


TOPICS: Ohio; Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: clinton; elections; florida; ohio; polls; trump
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To: MMaschin; LS; eekitsagreek
Not to say you, eekitsagreek, are not well informed on polling, but I intended my prior post (#20), to be directed towards LS.

Sorry for the mixup!
21 posted on 10/06/2016 8:31:26 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

No, I don’t care what ethnicity or background you are, Trump crushing it with men. Even is not even a remote possibility.


22 posted on 10/06/2016 8:56:45 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
According to UPI, if the election were held today, Trump would win:

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/10/upi-trump-would-win-today.html

23 posted on 10/06/2016 8:56:48 AM PDT by rissole
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To: MHT

No, what’s the deal there?


24 posted on 10/06/2016 8:57:10 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: MMaschin

If you ignore polls and look at VOTING-—absentee requests, early voting vs. 2012-—you’ll see that so far this election isn’t close. Trump is crushing it, whether in IA where Ds are 40,000 absentees below 2012 (but right in line with their 8% loss in 2014), in FL where they are down 118,000 absentees and losing 43-36% in requests and much worse in actual returns; in Montgomery CO., OH, where they are significantly down in absentee requests compared to 2012 even after identifying which independents are really stealth Democrats.

In Cuyahoga County, OH, D losses and R gains (again, not even factoring in Is) are 97,000 off 2012-—A Dem simply cannot win OH after losing 1/3 of the voters in the most blue city in the state.

So, no, the polling is bad. It’s bad because the pollsters are using bad samples . . . deliberately.


25 posted on 10/06/2016 9:00:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: rissole

According to Team Trump, they agree. But it might not be close. I have them as 272, but I don’t give Trump MI, PA, or VA. In fact, he might carry all three for another 50+ electoral votes.


26 posted on 10/06/2016 9:01:42 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

If he is getting 18% black and 35% hispanic, and they are claiming he’s only up 1 then this poll must have had the rest filled with elderly bitter lesbians or something.

With those sorts of numbers Trump has FL locked if they are accurate.


27 posted on 10/06/2016 9:02:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: eekitsagreek

Thank you.

Something’s not right with these polls.

I.e., Trump at 20% with Blacks and 42% with Hispanics but 2 points up or 49% with women but losing by one.

Or down in battleground states but up nationally or up in Pennsylvania and Ohio, but down in Florida and up single digits in Texas.

These conflicting patterns just don’t make sense.


28 posted on 10/06/2016 9:04:38 AM PDT by ctpsb
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To: LS

Trump should get PA, MI, IN, WI and MI.

VA is the only state in the south Hillary has any shot at getting. If she can’t hold VA, with NOVA voters motivated to show up, if only for their own personal pocket book reasons to vote for her, she is going to LOSE a lot of other states no one wants to think about.

Seriously if she can’t get voters out in droves to vote for her in VA, (NOVA Specifically) where the people clearly have a personal motivation to keep the status quo if only for their own pocket book reasons, she won’t get turnout ANYWHERE.


29 posted on 10/06/2016 9:05:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Williams

And up 4 in Pennsylvania in the same poll.

Let’s hope these are both true!!


30 posted on 10/06/2016 9:07:16 AM PDT by ctpsb
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To: LS

Ohio is in the bag for Trump, anyone telling you its in play is just flat out lying to you.... They have shipped off Bill there on a bus to keep him out of the way since they figured out what he was selling no one was any longer interested in buying.

He’s sort of like Bob Dole in Oct of 96, he knows he’s lost, but getting one last hurrah before the end.


31 posted on 10/06/2016 9:08:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Kenny

I actually sent Laura an e-mail during the show this morning. I mentioned that she seems to be a little more pessimistic and down this week still partly due his last debate. Not sure why unless she knows something we don’t (hopefully not).

I suggested to her IMHO that she should also publicize these polls showing Trump in good shape and/or leading. I understand she needs to cover all sides but it seems she’s just showing the bad lately (though I know her case it’s with good intentions).


32 posted on 10/06/2016 9:15:47 AM PDT by ctpsb
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To: LS

“in FL where they are down 118,000 absentees and losing 43-36% in requests and much worse in actual returns;”

Why do I see some obvious Hillary supporters stating that these republican absentee ballot requests are more than the final 79,000 republican margin in 2012 but that the actual 118,000 spread is actually behind what the pace of what the spread wa

I believe they are gaslighting because there are no source citations but still just checking.


33 posted on 10/06/2016 9:22:58 AM PDT by ctpsb
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To: ctpsb; LS

sorry something happened upon the message posting

should’ve said

***what the spread was in 2012 up to today’s date...


34 posted on 10/06/2016 9:24:50 AM PDT by ctpsb
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To: HamiltonJay
Ohio is in the bag for Trump, anyone telling you its in play is just flat out lying to you.... They have shipped off Bill there on a bus to keep him out of the way since they figured out what he was selling no one was any longer interested in buying.


Actually, Bill is doing something very important, and it makes sense that he's doing it in Ohio!


It's obvious that, 1) this is a 'change' election, and 2) Hillary is the status quo candidate. They know that she needs to pivot against Obama somehow, to become a 'change' candidate. Obamacare is failing, and Ohio is lost - send Bill to Ohio, and break the ice on coming out against Obamacare. That is what Bill is doing.


Hillary can't just come out against Obamacare, it would appear desperate, and risk alienating core voters. So, people need to be used to the idea first.

Trumps campaign has to be on top of this, and hammer her on it, so that she has to defend it as it is!
35 posted on 10/06/2016 9:25:29 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: LS

That’s because when a real man hears the sound of Hillary’s voice it’s like hearing nails on a chalk board. She reminds them of a mother in law, ex-wife or ex-girlfriend.


36 posted on 10/06/2016 9:26:36 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Democrat_media
The only Hillary ads are ads attacking Trump...nothing that say what she'll do.

I guess if people knew what she will do, she'll be polling at 15%...

37 posted on 10/06/2016 9:26:56 AM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but Ther RELIGION of PEDOPHILIA...)
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To: ctpsb

No, the totals are astounding. 1.088 MILLION Rs have requested ballots and 1/4 of all Republicans ALREADY have asked for ballots. I don’t recall the previous 2012 numbers but I’m pretty sure Rs are NOT behind pace.


38 posted on 10/06/2016 9:29:52 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
According to Team Trump, they agree. But it might not be close. I have them as 272, but I don’t give Trump MI, PA, or VA. In fact, he might carry all three for another 50+ electoral votes.

That would be wonderful.

Well, let's all just keep praying about the election--every day, if possible. Only God knows the future, and how to work everything out to achieve His purposes.

39 posted on 10/06/2016 9:31:14 AM PDT by rissole
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To: LS

what is the nursing home population? homeless? that is the fraud factor.


40 posted on 10/06/2016 9:31:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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