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ANALYSIS: Paul Ryan Battling Donald Trump for Soul of Republican Party
CNN ^ | 05/06/2016 | Rick Klein

Posted on 05/06/2016 12:39:46 PM PDT by RayofHope

Donald Trump has used tweets to insult women and ethnic groups, and to drive news cycles over everything from his late-night TV choices to his midday food options.

But he escalated his feud this morning with House Speaker Paul Ryan in a profound way, with implications and ramifications that extend far beyond November.

“Paul Ryan said that I inherited something very special, the Republican Party,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Wrong, I didn't inherit it, I won it with millions of voters!”

On a basic level, Trump is right. He stands now as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee because of millions of the Republican Party’s own voters, and in spite of, almost to a man and woman, the party’s leadership.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: New York; Wisconsin; Campaign News
KEYWORDS: 114th; 2016election; 2016issues; dumboryan; election2016; gope; newyork; paulnehlen; paulryan; ryan4clinton; ryan4obama; ryan4romney; ryan4soros; ryanvsamerica; scottwalker; teamromney; trump; trump4america; wisconsin
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To: Windflier

Once again. Trump is not in the position to dictate terms.


81 posted on 05/06/2016 7:39:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

Ryan is completely tone deaf to the Republican voters, 2/3 of whom feel “betrayed” by Ryan and his ilk. Their primary concern is retaining control over the party. They are perfectly happy to see Hillary beat Trump. When they say they don’t support Hillary or Trump it means they support Hillary but don’t dare say so. Anyone who plays that game is a 5th columnist. Better to know them for what they are now than depend on them. The GOPe needs to make their choice and get on board, or they’re done one way or another.


82 posted on 05/06/2016 8:52:16 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

Ryan managed to catch Trump’ s attention did he not? You are part of a small fraction of the Americans who have voted in primaries this year. Why do you think you are in the majority?


83 posted on 05/06/2016 9:25:13 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

“Trump is not in the position to dictate terms.”

As the presumptive nominee, he most certainly is, as has every presumptive nominee before him.

You obviously reject that, because you reject Trump.


84 posted on 05/06/2016 9:35:38 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: RobbyS

Like I said 2/3 of Republicans feel betrayed by the leadership of the party. The elites and their supporters are a very small minority of the party. Meanwhile Trump was getting over 50 percent before Cruz dropped out and has already gotten more actual votes than any other Republican nominee has ever gotten. It’s going to be a choice between Trump and Hillary. I think Trump is the greatest natural politician of my lifetime, and Hillary is maybe the worst. By the time Trump is done with her it will be a landslide, unless she gets indicted or has an aneurism first. Reagan went through this crap too, and the elites even ran a third party candidate against him. The result will be the same.

As for getting Trump’s attention, he was going to meet with the leadership anyway. Giving Ryan some kind of credit for that is like crediting the rooster for making the sun come up.


85 posted on 05/06/2016 9:48:27 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Double incorrect premises. The article says that Trump escalated the feud. Ha. Convenient that the author failed to state that RYAN started things when RYAN failed to endorse Trump in the first place. As usual, all the blame falls on Trump, rather than where it belongs — with RYAN.

All of these pundits and media personalities would fail miserably at Root Cause Analysis.


86 posted on 05/07/2016 7:50:54 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Wolverines!! #NeverHillary)
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To: RayofHope

Let’s keep those postcards flowing... to Paul Ryan (and our local reps and senators)... Every Monday until Ryan and all the others are “ready” to support Trump.

It’s not over until Trump is actually the Republican nominee, not just the “presumptive” nominee. Everyone stay focused, and keep voting Trump in the remaining primaries. Keep focused until February 2017.

Postcards to:

Spkr. Paul Ryan
1233 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515

This is what I’m writing on my postcards:

Support Trump2016
- or we vote DEMOCRAT down-ballot in November!
#MAGA


Full list of Paul Ryan’s addresses and phone numbers:

WASHINGTON D.C. OFFICE

1233 Longworth HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-3031
Fax: (202) 225-3393

JANESVILLE OFFICE

20 South Main Street, Suite 10
Janesville, WI 53545
Phone: (608) 752-4050
Fax: (608) 752-4711

KENOSHA OFFICE

5031 7th Avenue
Kenosha, WI 53140
Phone: (262) 654-1901
Fax: (262) 654-2156

RACINE OFFICE

216 6th Street
Racine, WI 53403
Phone: (262) 637-0510
Fax: (262) 637-5689

- See more at: http://www.speaker.gov/contact#sthash.lWsIGwDn.dpuf


87 posted on 05/07/2016 7:51:20 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Wolverines!! #NeverHillary)
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To: loveliberty2
Thank you. I had hopes that Romney would have tacked to the right, had he been elected. His little hissy fit over Trump convinces me that I was very wrong in that hope. Ryan is even more of a disappointment, because I bought into the image he projected before Romney tapped him.

I basically agree with Gingrich's assessment. But as I have written, Trump is an instinctive Conservative, who is just now getting really focused on the problems. Depending on how one rates the issues, he may already be the most Conservative Republican who ran this year. The way I rate the issues, personally, he is more Conservative than anyone but Cruz was before he got off on the tangent which undermined his credibility--a tangent inconsistent with the values he proclaimed up until a few months ago.

There is no issue more pressing than that of how best to preserve the sovereign independence of the rooted American population, and Trump is the only one who appears all in on that.

88 posted on 05/07/2016 10:30:47 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: BagCamAddict
All of these pundits and media personalities would fail miserably at Root Cause Analysis.

"Pundits?" Rather dolts with illusions of relevance. Much of what they consider relevant contemporary concepts have always confused parallel effects with actual causation. There is nothing more obnoxious than a confused simpleton with strong opinions. But that is most of what you read or hear today, passed off as the result of analysis.

89 posted on 05/07/2016 10:35:50 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: RayofHope

tweets to insult women and ethnic groups...


Right out of the box the writer kicked off the piece with a lie. Trump has battled certain women over time - but not insulted all women or women as a group. He has not insulted any ethnic group.

Stopped reading right there. Kick it off with a big fat lie and that is what you can expect from the whole thing.


90 posted on 05/07/2016 1:57:18 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Hugin

As Sportin’ Life says is Porgy and Bess, it ‘aint necessarily so. Trump’s rise if like that of William jennings Bryan back in 1896, That too, was a rebellion against the leaders of the Democratic Party, It caught the wave of populism that swept the rural voters of America who were distraught over the effects of the Great Depression of the ‘90s. The difference is that Bryan was a very young man, and Trump is old. The result was a flight by the Elites into the Republican Party.Except for insurgent movement of Teddy Roosevelt in 1912, the Republicans were the majority party until 1930.


91 posted on 05/07/2016 3:38:56 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

I think this is very different time.
As to Trump being old, not in today’s world.
Trump and Bill Clinton are the same age. Clinton has heart problems and debauched himself while Trump has led a life free of most vices. His energy level is that of a 25 year old compared to Hillary, she is more like 80.


92 posted on 05/07/2016 3:43:39 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Indeed, Trump and Hillary are both old, and Bernie is even older. All are products of the sexual revolution that has turned the country upside down. Proof that it has won the culture. And by accepting Trump, evangelicals are proof that the Moral Majority are history. As for comparing Bill and Donald, I think they have shared the same fantasy island.


93 posted on 05/07/2016 3:58:05 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

All time’s are different. My point is that Trump is a great communicator riding a great wave of disaffection that is probably not powerful enough toe carry him to victory. Now a caution. I don’t think that Donald is as unacceptable to the elites as Bryan was. On the other hand, the blacks and the Europeans immigrants who served the political machines of the great cities had little in common with Bryan as Trump as with todays’s blacks and the immigrant class.

Historical parallels are never exact, but It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.


94 posted on 05/07/2016 4:05:44 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: MUDDOG

95 posted on 05/07/2016 4:07:12 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: RobbyS

I guess we’ll see. I predicted last June that Trump would be the nominee. Who’s been right more so far, me or you?


96 posted on 05/07/2016 4:15:43 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Oh man that is TOO funny! LOL :-)


97 posted on 05/07/2016 4:17:16 PM PDT by freedomcrusader (Proudly wearing the politically incorrect label "crusader" since 1/29/2001)
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To: Hugin

That doesn’t matter. Sometimes the outcome is obvious. I was certain when Teddy Kennedy chose Obama over Hlllary in 2008 that she was dead in the water. I still think that McCain would have won in ’08 except for the crash. As Lincoln said on many occasions: I do not determine events, events determine me.”


98 posted on 05/07/2016 8:01:01 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

So you’ve been wrong about Trump up until now, but now you are some kind of expert? Yeah sure. You sound like all the pundits who dismissed Trump and now claim to know what is going to happen. At least Newt has the honesty to say “Far be it from me to give Trump advice. He clearly knows what he’s doing more than I do”.


99 posted on 05/08/2016 3:29:41 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: RayofHope

Who are these guys who think they can tell party voters what up?

Ryan - Not a Republican
Jeb - Not a Republican
George HW = Not a Republican
George W - Not a Republican
George Will - Not a Republican
Bill Kristol Not a Republican
Dick Cheney - Republican!
Lindsey Graham - Not a Republican
Romney - Mormon god - Not a Republican
McCain - Republican

Who the F are these pansies who think that they can be part of the GOP, yet not support the candidate the vast majority of voters picked?

It’s very simple. If pledges are in vogue - you either support the nominee, presumed to be Trump, or you are out of the party. Sign the pledge or not. Ryan has one choice - sign the pledge or resign your post as Speaker of the House, because you’re not a Republican.

This is how it works. In or out. Who gives a damn which for most - but if you’re in elected office, and took help directly or indirectly from the GOP to get there - you’re out if you don’t support the nominee.

This isn’t that hard. Priebus? Are you in or out?


100 posted on 05/08/2016 3:47:58 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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