Posted on 06/08/2015 1:58:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BS. I have paid into social security my whole life and now I’m supposed to just stand back and get f***** out of it? Take one for the team? is that it? Not a chance buddy. I’m not a marxist and I’m not a chump and neither are the rest of the middle class Americans that, so far, seem very disinclined to support Ted Cruz for President. But I’m sure his plan to mess with their social security will have them flocking into his camp. there’s a reason it’s called the third rail.
The bottom line is that it was unconstitutional in the first place.
So, no matter how much was stolen from the people under the color of “law,” it was all lawless.
I don’t know why there is any further debate about it among conservatives, once that fact is established.
If we won’t demand that our representatives keep their sacred oath to support and defend the Constitution, all “political action” is nothing but useless movement and noise.
Yap, I personally know several immigrants who arrived as seniors, never worked in USA for one minute, and are collecting social security benefits. I do not blame them for taking advantage of existing laws. I blame our law makers who enjoy spending other people’s money.
That government inflation rate is a cruel jokes for seniors because it EXCLUDES more volatile food & energy costs. Hellooooooo..that is major part of most senior’s budget. And the other is healthcare costs, which have increased many times faster than CPI.
Your opinions, shot through with abject belief in a generation's worth of left-wing propaganda as they are, make you a poster child for why every single Republican candidate for president is in effect a Franklin Roosevelt New Dealer instead of being constitutional conservatives.
I got news for you Dutchboy....My best 2 jobs lasting 25 years were from rich people. My other good job was working for a government funded outfit, thank you all taxpayers!
I paid into SS from age 21 through age 58 when I retired. I signed up for benefits at age 62 and now in my 70’s have already collected what I paid in taxes. And since I am in good health, I plan on collecting for 25 more years! Thanks young workers for this magnificent Ponzi scheme, which is great for those of us who got on the scheme early.
tell it to the American voters. Maybe they’ll care more than I do.
but we can’t talk about that. We need to talk about raising the age.
Again you reply with the attitude that makes unconstitutional spending and socialist programs possible.
You’re entitled, even though We the People, via the supreme law of the land, the U.S. Constitution, never authorized it!
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Again, social security is called the third rail of American politics for a good reason. Cruz probably shouldn't have grabbed a hold of it.
I agree 100%, but for some reason people think, even some here including yourself, that if a person paid into the system and also sacrificed or earned more and saved more that they should not receive their earned benefits. There just aren’t that many wealthy people to statistically make a difference. The middle class will pay the freight as they always do.
Everybody knows that there is no money left. He is proposing solutions that will extend the system and start to privatize it. He is also talking about raising the retirement age AGAIN as it is already 67 for people in my generation.
There are no good solutions and yes you will get screwed. If you are under fifty, like I am, you will feel like you got F@cked by an elephants dick. Doesn’t matter who you vote for, it is all in the statistics. The math just doesn’t add up.
Yes, and if the Supreme Court had cone its’ job and found it to be unconstitutional in the 1930’s we would now be spared this Unfunded Liability along with an alphabet soup of government programs, but it didn’t.
Now we have hundreds of millions of people who have had untold wealth confiscated at the point of a gun who are expecting the payments promised to them.
You both are mostly correct. What EV desires will never happen. No congress will cancel SS
But now we have to face the reality.. Which is, there simply is not enough money to pay all benefits promised. So what is practical solution?
1. Take drastic measures to eliminate Fraud in SSDI.
I know a male on first name basis, who plays golf Mon-Fri.
Pushes his cart, and plays 27 to 36 holes each day. He is on SSDI! How? One of his legs is slightly atrophied. Estimates of fraud are as high as 40%. Self inflicted disability such as drug abuse should not make one eligible for SSDI.
2. Base monthly SS benefit based on actual taxes contributed, adjusted to inflation. That would eliminate several million immigrants over 65 who either did not pay a dime in taxes or paid very little.
3. Place a maximum limit on cumulative benefits = Actual taxes paid X cumulative inflation index.
“Sorry, Ted. The big thing (means testing) needs to be added. Our neighbor ($ 50 million in assets and he lets everyone know) doesn’t need SS for greens fees.”
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Ah yes....RINOism.
That does seem to be the case. Asking a bricklayer to work until 70, no problem.
What burns me are the illegals collecting SS.
You say it will never happen. Well then, the Constitution is a dead letter, and the republic can’t be saved.
In any case, SS will end. All socialist schemes eventually consume their victims.
So, we have a choice: either fix the problem now, and return to the enumerated powers of our Constitution, or continue like fools down the path to destruction.
By the way, you say that what I want is never going to happen, but I say Cruz’s plan is never going to happen, even if he wins the election. All it is is campaign rhetoric, of the exact same sort that we heard in 2000 from George W. Bush. Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, which will never get beyond the talking about it stage.
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