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Is Graham a RINO, or a reasonable conservative? (Incredible) [Poll to FReep]
The Post and Courier ^ | December 12, 2014 | Brian Hicks

Posted on 12/12/2014 5:01:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

So Lindsey Graham is on the warpath ... again.

In the past month, South Carolina's senior senator has been busy - which stands in stark contrast to most members of Congress this time of year.

Or any time, for that matter.

Not only has the hawkish Graham renewed his call to send troops into Syria, he also criticized the release of a report that detailed the CIA's rather torturous methods of extracting information from suspected terrorists.

Graham didn't exactly endorse waterboarding, mind you, but he made it clear that enemy detainees really don't want to be locked in a dark room with him anytime soon.

He actually got on Fox and declared a certain segment of Middle Easterners "bastards."

And right before that, he described a Republican report that found no evidence of wrongdoing in Benghazi as being "full of crap."

This does not sound like the Sen. Grahamnesty all those tea partiers know and loathe.

In fact, a lot of moderates believe someone needs to remind Lindsey the election is over and he won - so he can go back to being a RINO now.

Either that, or rumors of Graham's liberalism have been greatly exaggerated.

Old-school cred

Scott Buchanan is not surprised by any of this.

Buchanan is a political science professor at The Citadel - as well as the executive director of the military college's Symposium on Southern Politics - and he sees Graham as being true to his ideology.

"That whole thing about Graham not being a conservative - I've never bought that," Buchanan says. "If you look at his record overall, he's a conservative. If this was 40 years ago and we were walking on shag carpet and wearing polyester, he would fit in well with mainstream conservatives."

Just as he would in the era of, say, Ronald Reagan. The Gipper, despite what some revisionists want to believe, actually worked well with Democrats to get things done. Reagan even - shh - raised taxes once or twice.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the 21st century. Folks at both ends of the political spectrum (especially Graham's end) declared any sort of compromise or working across the aisle to be ideological treason.

Which is why nothing gets done these days.

But see, Graham is old school, and whether people at either extreme like it or not, Lindsey is a pretty conservative guy.

Most folks get this. As Buchanan notes, Graham dispatched five opponents in this year's Republican primary without the need of a runoff - despite the claims from the far right that Graham was "in serious trouble."

And if Graham gets some Democratic support, that doesn't mean he is not conservative. It just means he's more reasonable than a lot of other politicians. Which says more about them than Graham.

Hail to reason

Some people think Graham's recent rash of profanity-laced chest-thumping has a lot to do with the White House.

Since Graham mentioned offhand that he might possibly consider the idea of maybe running for president, that's all people have focused on.

Buchanan doesn't think a presidential bid is likely, but perhaps Graham is throwing out some red meat, leaving his options open.

There is little doubt Graham was floating a trial balloon to see how the idea would fly.

You could argue that going hard core is not the route to the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Graham is never going to out-Ted Cruz the good Sen. Ted Cruz, and he's never going to sound more like Rand Paul than, well, Rand Paul.

And no matter how many times Graham says we should investigate Benghazi until we find evidence to support all that stuff Fox has said - no matter what the facts produce - a large segment of the far right is not going to trust him.

And that's too bad, because Graham really is conservative.

The only difference between Lindsey Graham and those tea party darlings the far right loves so much is that Graham might actually have a shot in a national election.


TOPICS: South Carolina; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016; lindseedgrahamnesty; lindseygraham; logcabingop; randpaul; republicans; rinos; tedcruz
I wonder how Brian is related to Linda.
1 posted on 12/12/2014 5:01:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The poll is a data mining operation. Clicked No and it went on to other questions without giving the chance to Submit.


2 posted on 12/12/2014 5:06:29 AM PST by mazda77
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Watch all of the amnesty supporters transform themselves into superconservatives, now that their dirty work has been done.

They think all they'll need to do is rattle some sabers and we'll all come scampering back.

3 posted on 12/12/2014 5:06:51 AM PST by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another question there is only one answer. RINO


4 posted on 12/12/2014 5:07:39 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain Jr. is neither a RINO nor a conservative. He’s a homo.


5 posted on 12/12/2014 5:08:38 AM PST by twister881
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To: mazda77

Graham is being pushed and financed byt the same people that hate Cruz....if SC, which is solid conservative, can be split with the help of their home town boy Cruz will be held back in the primary vote count. We have to stay focused folks!


6 posted on 12/12/2014 5:19:51 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is Graham a RINO, or a reasonable conservative?

Well, if we are going to redefine 'reasonable conservative' to mean an amnesty-pushing, EPA-funding, carbon-tax-pushing, gun-grabbing, no-Federal-spending-limits-loving, Obamacare-defending communist, then sure, he's a very reasonable conservative!

7 posted on 12/12/2014 5:23:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (It's insanity to support those who hate us, no matter they call themselves Democrats or Republicans.)
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To: mazda77

Did same for me. Answered 2 additional questions(stupid quesitons and I gave stupid ersponse) and results appeared. Currently, 75% say “No” I would not vote him for president.

And I once had such admiration for him, back when he was “sticking” it to Clinton during impeachment. What a disappointment.


8 posted on 12/12/2014 5:24:30 AM PST by JParris
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
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9 posted on 12/12/2014 5:39:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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10 posted on 12/12/2014 5:41:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.
THIRTY million more Mehhhicccans imported to CONUS is not, repeat: NOT reasonable.


11 posted on 12/12/2014 5:50:29 AM PST by Flintlock (Soapbox failed, Ballotbox didn't work--the BULLET BOX is what's left to us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; ...
Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.

h/t to martin_fierro for the graphic

12 posted on 12/12/2014 6:11:03 AM PST by upchuck (Ferguson: Put your hands down and go to work!)
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To: Flintlock

Oh... but they think it is.

The US government is broken and out of warranty. It has no trade in value.

it’s time to drop it off at the salvage yard.


13 posted on 12/12/2014 6:34:59 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only problem is his un natural attachment to John McCain. He is McCain’s shadow. Wait until Obama’s Republican budget full of crap comes to the Senate and we will see how conservative he really is.


14 posted on 12/12/2014 7:11:15 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Graham didn’t exactly endorse waterboarding, mind you, but he made it clear that enemy detainees really don’t want to be locked in a dark room with him anytime soon.
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Hell, I don’t want to be locked in a dark room with him either.


15 posted on 12/12/2014 8:58:43 AM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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To: mazda77

I voted yes for Graham to run for presidency. I also declared myself a multi-millionaire. That should encourage Graham to throw his hat in the ring. More RINO’s get in the primaries, more division of RINO votes, and better chance for a conservative to win nomination. We do not want lone RINO Romney type winning again by Newt & Ricky splitting votes to the bitter end.


16 posted on 12/12/2014 7:18:09 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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