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GOP Redistricting its Own Candidates

Posted on 11/20/2012 8:04:30 AM PST by Scooter100

The biggest enemy of conservatism is the Republican Party itself. Get out the TEApots, let's have a Party!!


TOPICS: Florida; Georgia; Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: gopcivilwar; teaparty; vanity
The Florida Republican shenanigans regarding West really ticked me off. For the Republicans to redistrict him is verging on the criminal.

The Repubs also did a nasty redistricting of republican rep Tom Price (Region 6, Ga.). Price, a very conservative candidate, had a great campaign and won his seat, regardless of the nasty remapping.

Our biggest enemy of conservatism is the Republican Party itself. Get out the TEApots, let's have a Party!!

1 posted on 11/20/2012 8:04:33 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100

The only people the GOP can defeat is itself.

Let them.

There isn’t going to be any turning this around now. If one of our enemies is intent on committing suicide, then let it.

I’m done with the GOP.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 8:10:35 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Scooter100

On CNBC this morning, “Bloviator Joe” Kernan was again attacking TEA Party voters as the cause of Romney’s loss. He wants Republicans to go after the homosexual vote, but his “big tent” has no room for social conservatives. Of course, if social conservatives leave the GOP, it will never win again, but he’s certain he’s right, as usual.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 8:11:24 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Scooter100

I couldn’t agree more. The GOP lost me years ago, and they have given me zero reasons to come back. I’m a big C Conservative, so that leaves me with no place to go, for now.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 8:12:49 AM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Scooter100

I was worried about the way my district was changed but it doesn’t appear to have hurt us.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 8:13:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Scooter100

Speaker Joe Straus of San Antonio also did this to TX state House Republicans too. Straus faces opposition for the Speakership in January from conservative Bryan Hughes of east TX.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 8:13:53 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, they must all be <i>crazy</i> out there!")
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To: Scooter100

Yep. The Florida House and Senate went overwhelmingly GOP in 2010...it was darn near a clean sweep. I believe the House went approximately 80/20 in our favor. The resulting redistricting not only screwed Allen West, but they also set up the primary battle between Sandy Adams and John Mica. Mica is the consummate DC insider. He’s the chair of the transportation committee, champion of high-speed rail spending, etc.

Adams won her seat in 2010 over Suzan Kosmas who was literally one of those final ‘blue dog’ votes that helped pass Obamacare in the final vote. Adams would have had that seat locked up for as long as she wanted it, and she was a real grassroots champion. She was going after the EPA on their horrific regulations, etc.

The FL GOP set up the ugly primary, where Mica had all the resources and took her out. We lost a true conservative for a guy with stage 4 beltway-itis.

We lost two of the best people in congress due to GOP shenanigans...and a woman and black man on top of it. This stuff is maddening.

As Levin put it last night, if these brilliant consultants like Steve Schmitt and Mike Murphy want to keep throwing conservatives under the bus, they are just asking for a third party. We are getting screwed by both parties.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 8:17:00 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Sporke

Join a secession movement. Conservatives are never going to come back here except to try to put back the pieces to a broken forever economic system. It is in its death throes. How does a nation repay a 16 trillion, soon to be 20 trillion on the books debt not counting items off the books. Answer, it does not. If the conservatives ever come back it will be as bankruptcy referees.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 8:17:43 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: ilgipper

Schmitt is a Democratic mole, I’m convinced of it.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 8:18:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ilgipper

Amen. Good points.


10 posted on 11/20/2012 8:20:38 AM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Scooter100
I just told the gop to NEVER call me again. I told them that not only did they lose the election because of who and what the gop/e are, but that they are losing America by not trying to change the corruption that leads to our elections being stolen. I told them that they are cowards for not trying to stop obama and that the dims always win because the republicans refuse to fight the dims in the same way that the dims fight republicans. I told them that they do know how to fight but that they reserve their meanest and nastiest to use against their own base. I told them that I am a TEA Party Patriot and that they do not have to worry about how to divorce themselves from people like me.

LLS

11 posted on 11/20/2012 8:20:54 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: Scooter100
For the Republicans to redistrict him is verging on the criminal.

In what way was it "verging on criminal"? Please explain what laws were on the verge of being violated.

From my understanding West's district was changed mostly on account of redistricting ballot initiatives the Democrats managed to get passed in 2010. It probably affected his district more than anyone else.

12 posted on 11/20/2012 8:22:17 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Theodore R.

I have a special loathing for Joe Straus and cannot wait for a conservative to boot him from his position as Speaker.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 8:22:41 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I had a discussion with the head of the WA State GOP, early last year, maybe in January. I told him that I thought that the only way for the GOP get any power in WA State was to rein in the public sector unions. His reply was that if I feel so strongly about it, I should go to the state convention and propose an initiative. He said that he thought that there might be an initiative on the ballot to that effect, but it wouldn’t be proposed by the GOP.

In the county where I live, the government workers out number the private sector workers.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 8:28:34 AM PST by Eva
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To: Mouton
Join a secession movement.

Or you could do something sane that actually matters like going to your state convention and changing the policy makers. It only takes a few hundred votes to replace an RNC committeeman. In the spring, tea partiers, libertarians and GOP conservatives went to the Michigan convention and replaced uber RINO Saul Anuzis with conservative Dave Agema. There were only about 1500 total votes cast at the convention.

If you can't get 3 or 4 hundred people to a state convention, you aren't going to secede.
15 posted on 11/20/2012 8:29:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Scooter100
GOPe'ers across the country set out to defeat conservative TEA Party candidates - and they did in many parts of the country, however, they also defeated a few of their bought and paid for RINOs.

This should finally open up the vast schism between conservatives and so-called "moderates" in the GOP.

It really is time for ideological war within the GOP to hopefully save it from itself.

No longer will conservatives sit back, donate, vote and keep their mouths shut; no longer will the RINOs not admit what they are fighting to keep - power!

Let us be honest and open about the RINOs attempting to rule with an iron hand, being more of a pediment standing in the face of conservative values being represented in our political process. RINOs believe in their heart of hearts that they alone should represent the party apparatchik, including the bank account.

That branch of the GOP will take the party the way of the WHIG Party, while celebrating themselves for keeping those great unwashed from being "the ugly, hateful face of the Party."

Going back to the paraphrase the bible, "If your left arm causes you to sin, cut it off......"

If conservatives within the GOP hope to win another major election, it's time to "get it on" and "let's roll!"

16 posted on 11/20/2012 8:32:43 AM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: cripplecreek

how about replacing the “do nothing” leaders of the blue zones?

Those that bring us CONSTANT FAILURE in florida blue areas.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 8:36:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dfwgator

Steve Schmidt is no more a Republican than he is an underwear model....


18 posted on 11/20/2012 8:37:08 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: zerosix

Here is the handbook for that civil war:

www.gone2012book.com


19 posted on 11/20/2012 8:37:58 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: cripplecreek
If you can't get 3 or 4 hundred people to a state convention, you aren't going to secede.

Precisely.

20 posted on 11/20/2012 8:41:48 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Scooter100
So what we now have is "the war within the party".

GOPe's vs. Tea Party conservatives.

The GOPe's are so embedded with the Dem. party, don't expect any of them to rock their PERKy boat and kill their golden goose via Dems control.

By the time we (conservatives, Tea Party) really takes off, the D & R's will have yet another method to stop us. I am sure they are working on this as we type.

Reform within either or both parties combined will never work, Oh, they will THROW US A BONE and pacify us for the spell, but they are already planning their next move to destroy us. One that we don't know yet, but it will happen.

All they need to do is KEEP US BUSY, pacified, even if all it is, is crumbling among ourselves, and that is all it is. It works, and here we are CRUMBLING, but to no end.

STARVE the RNC??? ROFL....plenty of big business lobbyist will keep them going, for their perks and/or political positions.

21 posted on 11/20/2012 8:43:11 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Longbow1969

Alright, alright.....remove the inflammatory, metaphoric, “criminal” and insert “outrageous”. Still, you can’t deny that Republicans approved the remapping.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 8:50:38 AM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: annieokie

I thought it could get no worse

than having dws as my “rep”.

After redist. my choices were

Alcee Hastings
and someone named Terry


23 posted on 11/20/2012 8:50:58 AM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: Scooter100

you are right as rain.

many of our trustworthy conservative candidates, who lost in this election, were under constant “friendly” fire from their own party or were redistricted by the powers that be into un-friendly districts.

they over performed in their races, especially given the handicaps they ran under.

certainly they performed better than the establishment’s losers this cycle including the “boat anchor” romney (use any criterion you want including total losses, money spent, percentage margin, registration margin, etc).

i hope our Lord will have mercy on us and provide a vehicle for the formation of a united Conservative movement.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 8:58:21 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Scooter100

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM. DEFUND their collectives. DISMANTLE their collectives. DEPOPULATE them from the body politic.

Pay, pensions and perks of all legislators past and present rescinded for not reducing/eliminating the debt.

(...it is a moral crime to give money to support ideas with which you disagree; it means: ideas which you consider wrong, false, evil. It is a moral crime to give money to support your own destroyers. - “The Sanction of the Victims”, TOF, April 1982.7.)

“—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Alter it.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 9:02:07 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Mouton

Oh, I’m sure the feds have a file on me already. I’m a member of several groups that aren’t exactly endorsed by our govt. None that require hoods.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 9:09:06 AM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Scooter100
GRAVITAS
27 posted on 11/20/2012 9:09:26 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: cripplecreek

Good for you but the rest of my post is where the crux of my comment is....we are too far over the cliff to come back. No nation on the planet has the wherewithall to repay 20 TRILLION in above the table debt not considering how much is not even on the table for viewing without resorting to confiscatory taxes, dictatorship, and a tremendously devaluated currency. That is my position.

Recasting one of the two parties is the equal of moving deck chairs on the titanic. This past election shows that a choice between the lesser of two evils was not the answer either. Still, the country elected the worse of the two, not over whelmingly, but nonetheless reelected along with a stronger senate and house. In investing they say the trend is your friend. There is a trend here and it is not electorate friendly. I blanch when I hear party officials now triping overthemselves to try to outdo the dems in the areas of immigration deform, entitlementality, and unhealthy care. If Diogenese were looking for a principled public official in DC his lantern would need a super tanker of lamp oil for replenishment.


28 posted on 11/20/2012 9:19:26 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Sporke

Just remember, it must be a legal secession, not a violent overthrow as that is not legal.

The states need go the legal route this time, sue.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 9:28:46 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Scooter100
I agree wholeheartedly regarding West, but what the heck are you talking about regarding Tom Price? The GA 6th is about as safe as it gets, and the results back this up.

U.S. Representative, District 6
    
3 of 3 Counties Reporting
    Percent Votes
TOM PRICE (I) R
64.51% 189,669
JEFF KAZANOW (D)
35.49% 104,365
      294,034

30 posted on 11/20/2012 9:35:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: dfwgator

Steve Schmitt, Mark McKinnon, Luntz, Rove and Dick Morris.

With a political braintrust like this it’s a wonder the GOP retained the House of Representatives.


31 posted on 11/20/2012 9:42:57 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

I think the only reason the GOP retained the House was that frankly the Democrats didn’t want it....they have the perfect scapegoat now for when things go wrong.


32 posted on 11/20/2012 9:44:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Good point. All the dems need is the Senate, Executive and judicial. We are so screwed. I don’t see any way forward unless the dems just self-implode or the media actually starts to cover the outright theft/bribery coming out of DC.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 9:54:40 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Scooter100

“The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.”

“PolitiJim writes for Gulag Bound, November 13, 2012, that during the weekly True the Vote webcast, Catherine Engelbrecht related a meeting she had with Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC), asking what the GOP would do about voter integrity. The answer?
Nothing. They aren’t legally able to.”

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/11/why-gop-wont-challenge-vote-fraud.html

Ask the RNC to explain this—(they won’t)—then, change your affiliation to “Independent”.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 10:28:48 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

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Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election. The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office. Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.
Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.
So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?
Massive voter fraud.

There are massive reports of criminal activity
(not mischief, not shenanigans, as many term the fraud- but CRIMINAL ACTIVITY) going on all over the U.S during the presidential election.
Reports of machines changing votes from Romney to Obama, eyewitness reports of Republican poll watchers who observed busloads of non-English speaking Somalians in Ohio being instructed to vote Obama- the list is endless.
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

Romney lost because of this, not any other reason.
Nobody could have won against the fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama Machine.

The evidence is overwhelming!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/11/video-eyewitness-of-somali-muslim-voter-fraud-in-ohio-by-obama-camp.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-aVy_s76ZY
https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-stole-the-election/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LbOtYQceBxI-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rMpQKqZhM

http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/obama-stole-the-election
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/election-fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts
http://appalachianforums.com/forums/Dickenson_County,_Virginia.pl/md/read/id/255145
http://beforeitsnews.com/election-2012/2012/11/stolen-election-evidence-is-mounting-everything-points-to-stolen-votes-2446928.html
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/adding-up-the-evidence-to-a-stolen-election/
http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/allen-west-mitt-romney-and-the-massive-voter-fraud-machine/
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures
http://foxnewsinsider.com/tag/voter-fraud/
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/11/01/voter-fraud-is-no-myth-its-more-common-than-you-think/
http://thewillcountynews.com/?p=415
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4279497/obama-stole-election/
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/

Go to http://www.facebookcensorship.com and see the documentation of their censorship and harassment.
Bro. Winter Christian Bible teacher http://www.prime.org
http://www.barrysoetoro.net
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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America.
That’s what people fail to understand.
Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.

What you can do:
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Visit these sites:
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/
http://thecompetentconservative.com/elections-have-not-yet-been-certified-heres-what-you-can-do/

Most of ‘Obama Voter Fraud’ activity is moving to FaceBook.
‘Obama Voter Fraud Volunteers
http://www.facebook.com/#!/ObamaVoterFraudVolunteers

‘Obama Voter Fraud’ on FaceBook-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488176621204089&set=a.488176614537423.110863.488173144537770&type=1&theater";;;;-
Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/
Another petition, The ‘We The People’ petition has 60,000 signatures and counting-
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p

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35 posted on 11/20/2012 11:30:35 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: Scooter100

I am done with the republican party. Quitting them now. They are not a freedom loving party. They are in collision with the Democrats to ruin America. So I will be leaving.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 1:26:58 PM PST by Mozilla
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