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Conservatives that can't vote for Romney VANITY

Posted on 11/02/2012 11:06:00 AM PDT by birdsman

I know that some freepers are reluctant to vote for Romney because he's not conservative enough. Few of us wanted him to be the Republican nominee, and for good reason. This is why I'm voting Libertarian this year. I know the mantra, a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Obama, but that's not true in deep blue states like mine (New York). I propose that conservatives in deep blue states agree to vote 3rd party. In return, conservatives in toss up states can hold their noses while voting for Romney.

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To: Domandred

“However we DO NOT want a nightmare scenario where Obama gets the popular vote”

A single vote never matters, since no race will ever be decided by a one-vote margin. It doesn’t matter in a “battleground” state, much less in a deep blue state, and less of all for the popular vote. It’s incomprehensible to me why you’d even bother with the popular argument. If his vote is a drop in Superior in New York it’s a drop in the Atlantic nationally.

101 posted on 11/02/2012 11:56:30 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: ConservativeChris

Well said. Indeed.

102 posted on 11/02/2012 11:57:12 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: ConservativeChris
we CAN NOT afford to lose this election

Right! The incumbent is the first President who actually hates every thing that traditional Americans believe in. (Who else could have sat in a pew for 20 years, while his Pastor "damned" America?)

William Flax [Romney/Ryan]

103 posted on 11/02/2012 11:58:28 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: birdsman
Do you seriously think GARY JOHNSON would make a better President than Romney? GARY JOHNSON?! Are you kidding me? Whatever you are smoking, I'm sure it's illegal but part of Johnson's platform. Seriously, there are TWO choices in this election. TWO. Grow up and deal with it. We need EVERY vote we can for ROMNEY, not some guy who could hold his nominating convention in a phone booth. Even if you don't think Romney has a chance in New York, we need as a convicing national win over Obama as possible to give Romney as big of a mandate as possible, and to repudiate Obozo as much as possible.

Don't be "cute" and piss your vote away. Make it count. For all you know New York could be in play. Or New Jersey. Or any other state for that matter.

As conservatives we had our chance to get as conservative of a nominee as possible. We didn't get someone as conservative as we would have liked to oppose Obama, but Romney is what we have. Next time fight harder for someone more conservative if that's what you really want. But this time around it's ROMNEY or OBAMA.

Now go grow a pair and pick one.
104 posted on 11/02/2012 11:59:44 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: birdsman

I voted early for Goode (Constitution Party). Just changed my tagline to indicate that. But Romney will win my state easily.

105 posted on 11/02/2012 12:00:04 PM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Sorry, I believe it’s simpler than that ~ religious freedom grows out of the barrel of a gun ~ that’s what my Huguenot ancestors believed and today modern Catholics agree with that doctrine.

106 posted on 11/02/2012 12:00:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: birdsman

Look, I used to despise Romney too, and thought that maybe just for cathartic purposes or something, kind of like a medieval bloodletting for health, we should reelect O. But that would be confirmation of O’s socialist pro-gay pro-illegal policies, all for a small brownie point that conservatives stuck to their purity and didn’t deign to vote for RR.

A couple things have changed in my view of Romney. One, his debate #1 performance, I thought it was unabashed conservative. I really didn’t see any waffling toward the middle, as MSNBC tried to portray.

And on the key issue of immigration, in debate 2, though RR has been low key on the issue, he confirmed that he isn’t going to do amnesty, and ROMNEY IS GOING TO INSTITUTE E-VERIFY! That will be critical to stemming illegal immigration and the illegals to leave, and O is not going to do it, and sop with O the next thing we know the electorate will be overwhelmed by illegals that vote Dem & socialist.

No, conservatives, vote Romney, not Obama.

107 posted on 11/02/2012 12:03:44 PM PDT by Hokestuk
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Digital logic...are you a computer guy?

108 posted on 11/02/2012 12:07:19 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I hate Liberaltarians.

Back in the nineties I used to self-identify as a Libertarian. That was until I attended some meetings and found out that the party is really all about legalizing pot. It was the only issue anyone was passionate about. So I left and never looked back. Some friends of mine still on the "inside" tell me that nowadays they are all in the tank for Gay Marriage, too. How nice.

109 posted on 11/02/2012 12:10:12 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: birdsman

bird, by the time this thread is over ... your vote will be the most important vote in America ... the entire country lobbying birdman for his vote on the NYS electors.

Good job, buddy! What about my vote!!

Do I vote for Linda McMahon?
Do I put my Linda McMahon yard sign up? If I do not, is it immoral?
Do I hafta campaign for Linda, too? ( I need a philosopher today)

110 posted on 11/02/2012 12:12:21 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: Oberon
and except for the rhetoric nothing much will change.

If there are not massive TEA Party rallies between a Romney victory and Jan 20th, and beyond, then the only people to blame for no change will be ourselves.

Romeny will govern to the right of center, IF, we, through Congress and out raised voices, continually remind him why he was elected, and by whom.

111 posted on 11/02/2012 12:13:40 PM PDT by Turbo Pig ( close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Oberon

re: “I’m done voting for evil.”

The problem with this is that all of us are evil and sinners. No candidate is going to be all that we want. No candidate, aside from Jesus, and He isn’t on the ticket, is going to be free from evil.

The truth is you are ALWAYS voting for the man/woman who represents LESS EVIL. The candidates you like have the least evil (as far as you perceive it) as opposed to the ones who appear to have the MOST evil.

You are either voting for less evil or more evil - there are no other choices.

Look at it this way - you have to decide which candidate represents more of what you support, and, vote against the candidate who represents the least of what you support.

If Candidate A is 50% of what you want, and Candidate B is 40% of what you want - which one do you vote for?

Now, of course you will say, “What about Candidate C?” He/she is 90% of what you want but has a snowballs chance in Hades to be elected.

If you vote your “conscience”, you feel good because you voted for the one you thought was best, yet the kicker is, you divided the opposition against the WORST candidate, thus, helping the WORST one to win.

It’s simple math. It is absolutely certain that dividing the vote helps one of two main party candidates - not the third party candidate.

If you want better main party candidates, you have to get involved in that party - i.e. join the party, attend local precinct meetings, volunteer for stuff, help in campaigns, etc. In other words, the more involved you are in the day to day workings of your local party, the more you can influence which candidates make it to the top tier for consideration.

If all you do is wait for “other” people in the party to choose who the candidates will be, but you’ve had no involvment and therefore no influence - why be surprised that you always wind up with having to choose among candidates you don’t like very much. Involvment is the key to influencing local, state, and ultimately national candidates.

But, as I said, you will always be choosing between the lesser of two, or three, or four evils. But, the worst candidate is usually the one who benefits the most from dividing the opposition against him.

So, Oberon - choose to vote for LESS evil. Yes, it stinks but that’s just the way it is.

112 posted on 11/02/2012 12:16:09 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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I'm voting for the hopeful implosion of MSNBC and anything that helps utterly destroy the credibility of the MSM, which I believe is as big of a threat to the nation as obama.

I think we should also consider that even in a solid blue state, a vote counts towards the popular vote. The closer the popular vote, the more they will attempt to contest the electoral vote imho.

The closer the popular vote, the more the MSM can claim that their messiah actually won.

I pray for an election that damages the MSM.
113 posted on 11/02/2012 12:24:08 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: EEGator

“Digital logic...are you a computer guy?”

I’m a common sense guy, trying to explain it in a way that can reach people.

114 posted on 11/02/2012 12:26:38 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Psalm 144
For the first time since 1976 I will pass on the top of the ticket. I will go vote down ticket though.

It is the second time for me - The first being when I was too sick to get to the polls and missed voting all together...

I am thinking I will write in Tom Hoefling (FR's EternalVigilance), even though I don't think it is a valid write-in in MT.

115 posted on 11/02/2012 12:26:45 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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yer vote is trivial civic nonsense.

someday, get somebody elected by actually campaigning for him.

116 posted on 11/02/2012 12:28:20 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: Theodore R.
Is Johnson’s running well enough in NM to tip that state to Obama, or is the state just locked up for Obama any way?
Locked? Like Carter over Reagan in 1980?
117 posted on 11/02/2012 12:28:59 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Oberon

“Yes. And voting for either of the two leading candidates is a vote for the status quo.”

I’m sorry, but this is politically moronic.
SCOTUS appointees alone from Obama should make your soul shudder.

Romney was far from my first choice, but he is oceans away from being a neo-socialist and statist like Obozo.

I’m not here to argue it, it’s beyond obvious if you can’t see it then god, devil or sun help you. I will never forgive or forget those that abandon our nation in it’s deepest moment of need to correct course. Never.

118 posted on 11/02/2012 12:29:59 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: birdsman

I respect your decision. This is the last nose holder for me.

119 posted on 11/02/2012 12:30:18 PM PDT by DManA
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To: PGR88

Exactly, he is the classic so called fiscal conservative which he isn’t and a social liberal. Only wimps follow that semi-conservative mantra so they aren’t stuck standing up for the killing of babies.

How can you have a fiscal program when you believe anything goes? More atheistic communism for everybody but balance the budget, right.

Pray for America

120 posted on 11/02/2012 12:32:25 PM PDT by bray (Nov 6, tell Obama to Stand Down!)
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