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Convention speeches: Ann Romney vs. Chris Christie
Vanity | 8/28/2012 | The Rhinelander

Posted on 08/28/2012 8:30:43 PM PDT by TheRhinelander

The buzz is that Ann Romney's speech was off the charts and that Chris Christie's speech was moderately good but didn't have the red meat people wanted. I tend to disagree. Christie's speech was fantastic but in a much more subtle way. He showed the stark differences. Thoughts?


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To: luv2ski

Her speech did not move me, either. I am a woman, but then I was cooking in the kitchen so missed some of it.


101 posted on 08/28/2012 9:10:08 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: luv2ski

Mitt Romney is the boss you wish you had if you kick ass and get your job done. You can quote me on that.


102 posted on 08/28/2012 9:10:33 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: svcw

I know plenty about Mormonism, and even more about the ignorance, fear and bigotry all dressed up in the neat package that portrays itself as true Christianity when it is the farthest thing from it. You are a small minded bigot who believes that people who have a strong conviction and faith that differs from yours are not only mistaken but evil. I pity you for your mindless hatred. Shame on you!


103 posted on 08/28/2012 9:10:49 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: RaisingCain
"They don’t know she is a pro-abortionist and so is her husband Mitt.. It’s all one big sham. The convention is a giant, white washed tomb with lots of dead bodies rotting within"

But you know. And you can see the sham.

A white washed tomb with lots of dead bodies rotting within is hard to miss. I bet many see it as you do but they are too insecure to dissent from group think dogma.


104 posted on 08/28/2012 9:10:49 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: TheRhinelander

i thought both speeches were excellent. ann helped mitt as she made him look more human and less wooden then he appears in public. why not emphasize family and children & grandchildren when the rats feel no guilt by placing and anchor of debt around the necks of my great-great grandchildren.

next time i hear a rat that we must “do it for the children” i will have a a hard time restraining myself from punching the idiot in the nose.

christie, well he emphasized that the rats said it couldn’t be done, yet under republican leadership it got done.

some of the best commercials that could be made would be a comparison between republican governors and rat governors.

how hard would it to compare communistfornia with jerry spacecadet brown versus Scott Walker?

they’re going bankrupt and republican governors are pulling their states back to prosperity.

no emotions, just plain hard facts.

blessings, bobo


105 posted on 08/28/2012 9:10:58 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: llevrok

That’s not my point of view. That is the Mormon point of view. Ask a Mormon. They’ll tell you I’m right.


106 posted on 08/28/2012 9:11:13 PM PDT by DManA
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To: MacMattico; Flycatcher
I’m with you. Juan’s remark was horrible.

What did he say ?

107 posted on 08/28/2012 9:11:39 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Elendur

Obviously, you are clueless to the socialistic RomneyCare with abortion, romney initiating same sex marriage and personally married the perverts - he is EVIL to the core so DON’T taint conservatism with that maggot!


108 posted on 08/28/2012 9:11:41 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: joyce11111

SHUT UP she explained.


109 posted on 08/28/2012 9:12:09 PM PDT by DManA
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To: TheRhinelander

Christie’s speech was fantastic ... for Christie.

Self serving to say the very least.


110 posted on 08/28/2012 9:12:59 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: TheRhinelander

Actually I liked what I heard of Nikki Haley’s better than Ann’s or Christie’s. She actually made it clear that this nomination is about defeating Obama and the Democrats, not just an annual holiday getaway or something. Haley went through a great laundry list of the obscenities the Obama administration had inflicted on her state. She came off as a lot more strong, confident, substantive and intelligent than Ann Romney. Granted, Ann’s not a politician, but fluff is fluff. Christie was good on specifics on what he had done in NJ, but he didn’t do a great job connecting it to the heat we’re supposed to bringing to Obama. For one thing, education is supposed to be a state issue, especially to Republicans, so talking about teachers doesn’t have a lot to do with the campaign against Obama.


111 posted on 08/28/2012 9:13:01 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: JediJones

I earned my GI Bill with my service. It wasn’t given to me.


112 posted on 08/28/2012 9:13:15 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: llevrok

“It is time for us, as a new greatest generation, to save America as our parents/grand parents did from the Axis and the USSR. The challenge is as great.”

What a great statement / summation you have made! Thank you very much.


113 posted on 08/28/2012 9:13:41 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: DManA; Andrei Bulba

The fear of Mormons is a bit sickening. Yeah, they have grown quickly as a religion, but so have others through time. I don’t fear them. Teach what you know and the truth will win out.

At least Mormons are not killing people who convert out of their religion. The people that Obama deeply feels for and sympathizes with and was raised with do that.

Who do you rather have for the next 4 years?


114 posted on 08/28/2012 9:14:55 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: DManA; svcw

Her marriage comment was in reference to her marriage being hard work, just like everyone else’s, with MS and cancer and raising 5 kids, not like in a fairytale. Did you two even really listen to the speech?


115 posted on 08/28/2012 9:15:25 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: DManA

We have freedom of religion in this country. I don’t have to agree with them on everything. ...and vice versa.

Romney is obviously capable of doing what Obama hasn’t done.


116 posted on 08/28/2012 9:15:39 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: 1066AD
What did he say ?

http://twitchy.com/2012/08/28/real-reporter-and-real-sexist-juan-williams-attacks-ann-romney-as-corporate-wife/

117 posted on 08/28/2012 9:15:44 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Andrei Bulba

Go seek out Mormons. Let them tell you what they believe. Then come back and apologize to me.


118 posted on 08/28/2012 9:15:56 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Condi wants what Anne has.


119 posted on 08/28/2012 9:15:56 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Elendur

Chris Christie, who says he is a Catholic, also believes you are born homosexual, and believes it’s OK to murder a child if you don’t like who the father is, as in cases of rape and incest. He is also for civil unions for homosexuals.

All three of these stances go against the Catholic Church and Christie could care less. He’s another cafeteria Catholic, in the same vein as Joe Biden, but not quite as bad.


120 posted on 08/28/2012 9:16:03 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: svcw

But Obama doesn’t even “claim” to be pro life. And maybe Romney’s conversion is real. Isn’t it a good thing when people change to a more correcet viewpoint? And in any event, even if Romney was faking, I would guess it was his pro-choice stance that was a fake to get elected in MA, while his true inclinations were pro-life (based on his religion and family life), just like my assumption is that Obama has been pro-same sex marriage all along but was pretending to be against for political purposes.


121 posted on 08/28/2012 9:16:25 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Flycatcher

“That may sound tangential, but it’s not if you watched Fox News.”

I would have liked to have seen Britt Hume drop kick the twerp off the balcony. What a schnorrer.


122 posted on 08/28/2012 9:16:51 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Unam Sanctam

It’s NOT about you. It’s about one nation under GOD, not evil!

I hate EVIL/godless as God does. Speaking TRUTH is charitable and priceless.


123 posted on 08/28/2012 9:17:27 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: RaisingCain
And in that interview the other day, Mittens came out and said he is in favor of abortion for the “health” of the mother, rape and incest. Which, basically, is the same position as every Democrat.

No, most Democrats support an unlimited abortion license. Personally, I don't support any exceptions that Romney supports, but it is certainly not the unlimited abortion license supported by Obama and the Democrats.

124 posted on 08/28/2012 9:19:00 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: DManA

She said she was an episcopalian when they met, and of course Willard was a Morman. So she left Christianity to join a cult started by some conman name Joe Smith.


125 posted on 08/28/2012 9:19:08 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Mach9

Palin can’t be bought nor is she into cronyism - all those that were there can be and have been. Separating the wheat from the chaff.


126 posted on 08/28/2012 9:20:14 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Everyone is missing something: Anne talked about love. Cristie followed hee and poo pooed love.


127 posted on 08/28/2012 9:20:32 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: JediJones

I used it after giving 4 years to the Marine Corps. We don’t owe you shit.


128 posted on 08/28/2012 9:20:42 PM PDT by bethelgrad
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To: presently no screen name
one nation under GOD

Do you think Obama supports this paradigm?

129 posted on 08/28/2012 9:20:43 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
No, most Democrats support an unlimited abortion license. Personally, I don't support any exceptions that Romney supports, but it is certainly not the unlimited abortion license supported by Obama and the Democrats.

Wrong. "Health" of the mother effectively means you can go in and get an abortion if you say it's giving you stress, a headache, etc. It is effectively no different than the most liberal Democrat position.

130 posted on 08/28/2012 9:21:06 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: TheRhinelander

Ann- very good.
Christie- uninspiring


131 posted on 08/28/2012 9:22:08 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Baynative

Ted Cruz and Artur Davis were the best speakers of the night.
I think they were the only two not using notes of any kind.
I like the way Cruz walked out on the stage and I liked the way Davis sounded like a preacher. I also thought that
good looking Janine Turner was good for the couple of minutes she spoke.


132 posted on 08/28/2012 9:22:11 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: JediJones

The John and Abigail Adams scholarships are actually a 1 or 2 K per annum incentive to pass the MCAS test as a sophomore in public HS, it only counts for UMASS/ State Schools or CC’s.

I only know this from going to Orientation at UMASS.
My son is inelligible as he went to parochial school through grade 11 and had to pass the MCAS as a Senior to graduate from a MA Public School.
What a joke.
He beat the crap out of the test.
We don’t qualify because he HAD to take it in order to graduate in Grade 12.
Three days of missed classses.
You make your choices and take your place.

I will not mock Mitt for this one even though it was a pain in the Ass, these kids are not brain dead . Teachers suck though.
He got his first “D” in English from a 2 named Bitch who failed all of the Conservative LAX players.

Teacher’s Unions should be dismantled...period.


133 posted on 08/28/2012 9:22:59 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: FreeAtlanta

What I’d rather have is not on the table. Non the less I believe God is in control.


134 posted on 08/28/2012 9:23:10 PM PDT by DManA
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To: luv2ski

Interesting! I had quite a different view! I thought Ann hit it out of the ball park. It is one of those impressionable moments that will stick in your memory for a very long time. It actually brought back memories of Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech. I thought she was amazingly poised, passionate and spellbinding

And as for Christie, I don’t know what everyone is talking about. The whole speech was red meat. he didn’t have to mentions obama by name every two seconds to show scorn for his failures and presidency. In fact I rather was happy that he spared us this miserable man’s name yet he attacked everything about him.


135 posted on 08/28/2012 9:23:26 PM PDT by parisa
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To: presently no screen name

Romney is against nationalizing Romneycare and wants to repeal Obamacare. Romney did implement the court’s decision on SSM, but he did not initiate. As far as I know, he has not personally conducted any SSMs.


136 posted on 08/28/2012 9:23:35 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: jessduntno
I would have liked to have seen Britt Hume drop kick the twerp off the balcony. What a schnorrer.

Megyn Kelly was ready to.

137 posted on 08/28/2012 9:23:38 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: TheRhinelander
pretty obvious the GOPE has no stomach to voice much social conservatism and little mettle to go after Obama

they sound like Positive Thinking preachers and motivational coaches

that might work given 40% of the country detests Obama but in normal years it is yet again like always a losing strategy

this is about turnout...they would be wise to pump up the base volume

women are simply not as a whole gonna go majority GOP...neither are any minority except Viets, older Cubans and rich South American expats

the meat of the GOP is white males over 40 and married white women

get them motivated..the lib media is actually right even though they say it like it is the pejorative

this avoid confrontation and red meat conservatism gameplan stinks of Yankee Neo Con and moderate Republicans like Lowell Weiker or Everett Dirksen woulda liked

I just cannot believe it

the modern GOP establishment is basically Scoop Jackson democrats

(look em up children...educate yerself)

138 posted on 08/28/2012 9:25:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: MacMattico
He's darn lucky that his coworkers are gracious. Me, I would have said something snarky like, “Oh, I see that you got the DNC talking point texted to you!”
139 posted on 08/28/2012 9:26:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Brit said, kind of reluctantly, the convention was off to a “reasonably good start.” He might be overstating the case a little. Except for Haley’s speech, I was not getting the case made to me as to why Obama needs to be replaced with someone else. Don’t they realize they’re running against an incumbent? They should be talking about Obama’s disastrous record. The whole reason Romney got the nomination was because people thought he had the best chance to beat Obama. If this convention continues to be about selling Romney, it’s going to flop bigtime. Romney’s not a desirable product. If it becomes about attacking Obama, then it could work very well, like Haley’s speech showed.


140 posted on 08/28/2012 9:26:50 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: DManA; Andrei Bulba; TheRhinelander

Bigoted? That is from a newbie and both signed up about the same time, right when Newt stepped down. So we know what we are dealing w/here.

MORMONISM is a godless cult. It is not bigoted to speak THE TRUTH but a command from God.


141 posted on 08/28/2012 9:27:17 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Aria

I agree with you. I could vote for a Mormon.


142 posted on 08/28/2012 9:27:18 PM PDT by DManA
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To: RaisingCain

Go pound sand newbie. obumbum’s goose is cooked.


143 posted on 08/28/2012 9:27:20 PM PDT by parisa
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To: JediJones

That would depend on how the “health” exception is defined and applied. While I don’t support the exception, I could see someone supporting the general concept while not necessarily supporting its elastic application. But even so, having the exception is still different from simply saying a woman has the “right to choose” regardless, full stop. Conceptually, they are not the same thing.


144 posted on 08/28/2012 9:27:32 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: presently no screen name

Nothing I said is untrue.


145 posted on 08/28/2012 9:28:57 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Baynative

Here is what Christie actually said:

“Dad grew up in poverty. After returning from Army service, he worked at the Breyers Ice Cream plant in the 1950s. With that job and the G.I. bill he put himself through Rutgers University at night to become the first in his family to earn a college degree. Our first family picture was on his graduation day, with Mom beaming next to him, six months pregnant with me. “

You, Christies dad, my dad - and countless more, served their country and earned the GI Bill benefits.

This jackwagon “JediJones” owes each and every one of you an apology.

And, thank you for your service.


146 posted on 08/28/2012 9:28:57 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: presently no screen name

yadda yadda yadda........ obama is one and done!


147 posted on 08/28/2012 9:29:41 PM PDT by parisa
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To: parisa

“It actually brought back memories of Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech. I thought she was amazingly poised, passionate and spellbinding.”

Man, that is saying a lot. Palin’s speech was the best I have ever heard in a convention. Ever. Ann Romney was polished, poised, heartfelt and eloquent.

SP was resolute, patriotic and passionate. Alaskan.

Very different speeches, but Palin’s will someday be the one handlers will want their people to watch to convey a message. Problem is, they won’t have that stupendous messenger.


148 posted on 08/28/2012 9:29:50 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Unam Sanctam

“No, most Democrats support an unlimited abortion license. Personally, I don’t support any exceptions that Romney supports, but it is certainly not the unlimited abortion license supported by Obama and the Democrats”


The health clause essentially makes abortion legal under all circumstances. The court, which Mittens said had “settled” the abortion issue, ruled that the health of the mother includes such disparate things as emotional well being and mental health. To use that term, Mittens was repeating the Democrat position. Barack Obama himself was saying partial birth abortion could not be banned because congress did not put in any exemptions “for the health of the mother.”


149 posted on 08/28/2012 9:29:57 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: DManA

I got the same impression as you about Christie speech. I question if the right message is to tell people they have to sacrifice as Christie did. People hanging on by their financial finger nails are going to say what’s left to sacrifice? The seniors he said will be wiling to sacrifice for their grand children all have reverse mortgages.


150 posted on 08/28/2012 9:31:33 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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