Posted on 08/17/2012 7:42:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Mitt Romney will not be on the ballot in Washington State, if a lawsuit from the Libertarian party succeeds. Citing a legal technicality which disqualifies the republican party from being considered a major party due to its failure to get a senate candidate on the ballot in 2010, libertarians appear to have the law on their side which would disqualify the republican party from being able to place its candidate on state ballots in November. That would remove Romney from the ballot, which would still allow his supporters to write in his name but would likely suppress the number of votes he would receive. Such ballot shenanigans are nothing new, as the republican party is working to rig voting hours in Ohio so that only percents which traditionally vote republican can show up early. But this isnt Obama or the democratic party trying to get Romney removed from Washington ballots. Its the libertarian party, which is far more closely allied with the republican party. In fact, while Ron Paul routinely runs for president as a republican candidate, hes a libertarian who simply prefers to try to change the republican party from within (or prefers the greater spotlight provided by a major party) rather than trying to run as a third party candidate. Except now the libertarian party is attempting to suppress the Romney vote, even though most libertarians would rather see a republican win than a democrat if it were a two-man race. The bizarre yet very real explanation, then, is that Ron Paul is indeed planning to run as a third party candidate
In past presidential elections, after Ron Paul failed to win the republican nomination, he stepped aside entirely. But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romneys lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever a historical rarity which suggests hes out of gas. This may have given Ron Paul second thoughts about running as a third candidate after all, and the sudden libertarian attempt to get Romney removed from the ballot may be the strongest clue yet
Theres little chance that Ron Paul would win, as hes a radical whose policies include cutting all off nearly government services and in fact scrapping several core government agencies in an extremist plan which falls somewhere between Romneys rich-only policies and pure anarchy. But he does have a pack of enthusiastic supporters (most of whom have confused him for being a harmless old uncle type are completely clueless as to what he stands for) who would vote for him for president in a heartbeat, and most of whom would be changing their vote from Romney to Ron Paul in the process. This would create a scenario which would increase Obamas chances of winning, similar to when conservative Ross Perot ran as a third candidate in 1992 and took votes away from republican George Bush which helped democrat Bill Clinton to win. So the matter comes down to whether Ron Paul would be willing to cost Romney any chance of winning, for the sake of getting his own name out there and picking up ten or fifteen percent of the vote which he may believe could raise his profile enough to help him perhaps pick up the republican nomination in 2016. Then again, if Ron Paul and the libertarian party believe that Romney has already lost this election, then he may see no harm in running as a third party candidate. And getting Romney removed from the ballot in an entire state would be a great way to help Ron Pauls chances of making a beachhead. As difficult to believe that Ron Paul would indeed run as a third candidate against the republican nominee, the only other explanation is that Ron Pauls libertarian party is trying to get Romney removed from the ballot for no reason other than to ensure that Obama gets reelected.
Ron Paul must be a big Obama 2012 fan. What a jerk!
I’m a libertarian (small “l”) but if Ron Paul and the Libertarian Party does this, they become another “enemy within” IMO.
Mostly nonsense.
I give up on my fellow Americans...so called "patriots" who are just self deluded and arrogant....
like Buchannon...like the "constitution" party in Minn.....all they do is hand victories to more leftist demorats...
Ron Paul is nuts if he thinks this does him any good.
I will bet any Paulian that Romney will be on the Washington ballot.
>> Theres little chance that Ron Paul would win
.. and there’s the money quote. Little prick is nothing but a spoiler. Selfish egotistical bastard. Rivals Barky in his narcissism.
He’ll die someday, of something. I take a little consolation in that fact. Hope it’s agonizing.
Romney was never going to get Washington’s electoral votes anyway.
You could have stopped there.
PaulTards are Losertarians.
The writer of this blog piece is likely smoking too much mrdical weed
This is a leftist retarded propaganda, but discounting that, I can say that Ron Paul is far more principled, honorable, and freedom oriented than Obomney.
Weird but moot. Romney wouldn’t win WA state anyway. King County (Seattle-Tacoma area) is too populous, too far Left.
Stop reacting and start thinking.
Romney has no chance in Washington State. A libertarian win would mean fewer electoral votes for Obama.
LOL - yup...
What goes around comes around.
What a bunch of BS.
I have no use for either nutcase slimeball Ron Paul or his liberal Liberarian Party. They are all losers that want attention and cannot find it from the Rats, RINOS, or conservatives.
“I can say that Ron Paul is far more principled, honorable, and freedom oriented than Obomney.”
And dog crap is not as smelly as bull crap.
I’m sure Obama’s folks are yelling “Run, Ron, run!”
I used to study late at night in a Liberary. There was this chick who wore glasses and (I guess) was a Liberarian. To this very day I still fantasize about her. Unlike you she could spell you fking moron.
Go ahead you jerk. Hand the election to Obama.
Proof that a mental test should be needed to run for President...........
Everyone knows exactly who the Lil’ Martian is and what he’s up to. Save the BS. No one, especially here, is buying anything Paul.
Stick it!
Who writes such stupid drivel? The Libertarian Party already has a candidate on the Washington ballot, and it’s not Paul.
Ron Paul...90% brilliant...10% crackpot.
I know someone else like that.
IQ in the 200 range, one of the founders of American Mensa.
He’s the smartest crackpot in the world. I told him that and he really liked the compliment... He’s a really great guy :-)
The Dems will try to get him in third party like CRAZY.
What they don’t realize is that Obama will lose more votes to Ron Paul than Romney will.
“But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romneys lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever a historical rarity which suggests hes out of gas.”
What a load of crap! I don’t know what “Beatweek” is, but I would careful about using it as an excuse to bash Ron Paul. Now, I will sit back and watch some Freepers become huge proponents of “Beatweek” without actually reading the piece, for the sole reason of bashing Ron Paul.
You know Wayne Green, too?
So, a column in something called “Beatweek” says (amid an impressive collection of factual errors, typos, incorrect usage, and poor grammar) that Ron Paul MIGHT do this, and you think that was the money quote? One hint that you might have been had is that Gary Johnson, not Ron Paul, is the Libertarian Party candidate. Another is the obvious inability of the author to grasp that “libertarian” and “Libertarian Party” are not exactly the same thing. Also, the sentence that states that Romney is trailing in all national polls strongly suggests that “Beatweek” is staffed by morons.
Sorry to pick on you, but you may as well have relied on something from Democratic Underground or Kos to launch your rant.
Don’t everyone ;-)
Many hams know him, he was often at the big hamfests.
He’s got a nice blog, will answer if you email him.
Very interesting guy...eats raw liver.
>> So, a column in something called Beatweek says (amid an impressive collection of factual errors, typos, incorrect usage, and poor grammar) that Ron Paul MIGHT do this, and you think that was the money quote?
In a word, “yes”.
How often must it be repeated? Ron Paul is a lying thief! He bloviates against spending, and pork and bridges to nowhere. Then he picks out a Bill that he KNOWS is going to pass when it comes up to a vote, loads it up with billion$ of pork for his district, and then votes against it when the vote is taken. The Bill PASSES, he gets the pork he wanted, but he tells the media he voted AGAINST it! That’s a lying thief!
What, no ‘barf’ alert?
Shame shame.
GOP righteous indignation seems to be based on the rationalization that sure Romney is a liberal but he's our liberal and come hell or high water we are going to vote for him.
When I lived in Biloxi he told me he served on the submarine, USS Drum, which is now docked next to the USS Alabama in Mobile Bay while in the Navy in World War II as one of the radiomen. Did he ever mention that to you? BTW, my wife and I are both MENSA eligible, but what’s the point?
President Reagan won every state save Minnesota in 1984. President Nixon won every state except Massachusetts in 1972. Then Governor Reagan won all but 5 states, including winning Washington State in 1980.
Having Ron Paul on the ballot in WAshington State might hurt dems by bringing out more independants to vote down ticket?
Having Ron Paul on the ballot in WAshington State might hurt dems by bringing out more independants to vote down ticket?
I saw this was posted in the GOP Club after I made the post if I had been observant enough to note that fact before posting I would not have bothered. I know we will never agree and I don’t see any benefit to stirring the pot
Mitt Romney will not be on the ballot in Washington State, if a lawsuit from the Libertarian party succeeds.
"Libertarian" and "Party" should be capitalized. A minor point, but standards exist for a reason.
the republican party is working to rig voting hours in Ohio so that only percents which traditionally vote republican can show up early.
A leftist lie, containing poor usage. But hey, we can bash Ron Paul over it, so leftists are our friends!
In fact, while Ron Paul routinely runs for president as a republican candidate, hes a libertarian who simply prefers to try to change the republican party from within (or prefers the greater spotlight provided by a major party) rather than trying to run as a third party candidate.
Ron Paul is a sitting member of the House of Representatives, and is a Republican. When you don't capitalize properly, things get all jumbled. Paul hasn't run as a Libertarian since the 80s.
Except now the libertarian party is attempting to suppress the Romney vote, even though most libertarians would rather see a republican win than a democrat if it were a two-man race. The bizarre yet very real explanation, then, is that Ron Paul is indeed planning to run as a third party candidate
The Libertarian Party has a candidate, and I doubt he is going to allow Ron Paul on the party's ticket. Seriously, this column is evidence of retardation.
But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romneys lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever a historical rarity which suggests hes out of gas. This may have given Ron Paul second thoughts about running as a third candidate after all, and the sudden libertarian attempt to get Romney removed from the ballot may be the strongest clue yet
Just in case you made it through the entire first paragraph without realizing you were reading a liberal fantasy, I present you with the second paragraph. If you can't parse this one, you are beyond hope, and likely brain-dead. Report to Daily Kos immediately.
Theres little chance that Ron Paul would win, as hes a radical whose policies include cutting all off nearly government services and in fact scrapping several core government agencies in an extremist plan which falls somewhere between Romneys rich-only policies and pure anarchy.
Wow, those right wing extremists come in all sorts of flavors! That a column with those sentiments would get positive comments on Free Republic is just sad. Reading the headline and hating Ron Paul is not quite a complete thought process.
...when conservative Ross Perot ran as a third candidate in 1992 and took votes away from republican George Bush which helped democrat Bill Clinton to win.
Well, lookie there, some truth slipped in.
...the only other explanation is that Ron Pauls libertarian party is trying to get Romney removed from the ballot for no reason other than to ensure that Obama gets reelected.
Um, former New Mexico Governor, Gary Johnson, is the Libertarian Party candidate for President. It says so right there on their website. Ron Paul was their candidate in 1988. That's six presidential elections ago. Ron Paul could not be the candidate for that party anymore, because he is pro-life. So how is it "Ron Paul's libertarian party"? If we are using moron logic, I suppose it is.
The person that wrote this piece is a fantasizing, leftist half-wit. He/she/it can't write, and doesn't perform even the most basic research. Whether you like, hate, or are indifferent to Ron Paul, if you got sucked into this piece of trash, you have egg on your face.
He said he took dangerous sub duty because at the time he was not too concerned if he lived or died.(his dad was a violent drunkard who beat him) He had a fellow that was going to put him in a safe research job and he felt that post should go to a man with a young family so he signed on for the drum...the crew had many close calls. He worked the radar(when on surface), sonar, radios, and many other things on the boat.
He also raised money by having sandwiches made up and having guys go around selling them for him....plus he was an amazing poker player.
I think he mentioned he was running off a newsletter on an old underused mimeo machine....can’t think of the newsletters name....could send an email I guess or search the archive.
Many have asked me to attend Mensa parties....but they sound pretty dull to me. As someone else said “I don’t care to belong to a group that would allow someone like me to become a member”
If he runs it will be paid for by Obama and Seros Money—it is a way to drain off votes so Obama and his motley crew can be re-elected. It will not work. Americans are smarter than that.
I have to laugh at all the Freepers who are actually forcing themselves to believe that they are supporting a Conservative in Romney.
For them, the hangover from this election is going to be a head splitter!
I’d have supported Hubert Humphrey if he had run against Adolf Hitler and I’ll vote Romney to rid us of Obama. Get it?
Troll.
YEP - split the Right.
I’m extremely pro-Paul on issues.
But if he does this, he’s working for Obama.
I’m kind of insulted that Obama4AmeriKKKa in Chicago doesn’t send a better class of disruptor troll here. I know Bill Clinton or Al Gore would’ve. Or maybe that’s just the low class of idiots that would take such a job.
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